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| LTC8K6 | Feb 11 2010, 12:44 AM Post #16 |
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025561.php
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| longstop | Feb 11 2010, 12:48 AM Post #17 |
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http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2010/02/10/the-negotiations-fraud/ snip Given the astronomical Democrat majorities in both Houses of Congress one has to wonder why Obama actually cares about Republican votes. He doesn’t. Obama is merely searching for a way to blame Republicans for his failures. His offers so far have been dishonest in the extreme. His position on the proposed health care take over bill is that Republicans should negotiate around the edges on the House Bill that was crafted without their input. This is not negotiation. This is condescension of the worst kind and is nothing short of a demand for capitulation. Minority Leader Boehner has been correct to express skepticism over where these negotiations can possibly lead the GOP if the starting and final positions are set and the GOP is only called in to give bipartisan cover. Obama is on the ropes. His own caucus is realizing that he is radioactive with the voters. His disapproval ratings are setting records for the first year of any president since such numbers have been tabulated. The voters are very skeptical of his goals and his governance. The GOP is right to steer clear of large scale negotiations with Obama who simply does not have the juice to bring Congressional Democrats along to his position. snip Some interesting comments. http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2010/02/10/the-negotiations-fraud/ |
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| Baldo | Feb 11 2010, 12:51 AM Post #18 |
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Well the Republicans need to get their act together. Chose a Point Man, somebody with a pair of balls. It might need to be a woman as these Republicans seem limp to me. Someone who can attack. Forget the politeness. We are mad and we need to tell off Obama. I think he will crack under pressure. |
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| longstop | Feb 11 2010, 12:57 AM Post #19 |
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It's the format Baldo , if Cantor can go after him with follow up questions he will look vulnerable and may be opened up . 0bama has chosen the field of battle which is a real negative in the eyes of Tzun Tzu. 0bama will have laid the groundwork and laid traps with the able assistance of his media enablers. Edited by longstop, Feb 11 2010, 01:03 AM.
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| wingedwheel | Feb 11 2010, 01:34 AM Post #20 |
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That is what needs to happen. But will McCain, Graham, and the two senators from Maine go along with it? It must be killing them to be missing all the Washington parties they missed because of their vote on 0bamacare. |
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| kbp | Feb 11 2010, 08:14 AM Post #21 |
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I'd hope the responsibility for NOT solving problems will not shift in the minds of so many that clearly have shown us they see where it lies presently. Simply using one-liners to shift blame is what I'd call a 'pipe dream' for Zero. Even if he worked a miracle and gained votes for a few in the coming elections, the best result he could bring about would still leave him without the votes needed to fully control Congress. |
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| Kerri P. | Feb 11 2010, 06:31 PM Post #22 |
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http://www.wral.com/news/science/story/7011469/ WellPoint insurance hike becomes target for Obama Posted: 15 minutes ago Updated: 12 minutes ago INDIANAPOLIS — Health insurer WellPoint blames the Great Recession and rising medical costs for its planned 39 percent rate increase for some California customers. To President Barack Obama, however, it's Exhibit A in his campaign to revive the health care overhaul. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, who received the company's explanation in a letter Thursday, said "it remains difficult to understand" how premium increases of that size by can be justified when WellPoint Inc. reported a $2.7 billion profit in the last quarter of 2009. "This is a stark illustration of what the status quo means for American families," said White House spokesman Reid Cherlin. "You'd be hard-pressed to find a better example of why reform is so urgent, and it's going to continue to be part of the case the president makes." Majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., went further. In a speech on the Senate floor, he attacked WellPoint and other "greedy insurance companies that care more about profits than people." "They get rich while people who already can barely afford their coverage lose their coverage altogether," Reid said. Whether it will be enough to re-ignite the sputtering health care legislation, remains uncertain. The Democratic bills are stalled for political and policy reasons unrelated to insurance costs. Democrats in the House can't accept the health care bill that Democrats in the Senate have produced, and vice versa. There are also concerns about the cost of the legislation. The rate hike shock, however, could help Obama make his case that Republicans need to come to the table on health care. GOP leaders, who want to start talks over from scratch, are going reluctantly to the Feb. 25 health care summit convened by the president. snip.... |
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| kbp | Feb 11 2010, 06:42 PM Post #23 |
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I do not recall any part of the health care plan that was reducing policy prices or limiting profit margins for the underwriters. This "I told you so" from the Reid, Cherlin & Sebelius team makes them look foolish to me. If the underwriters make too much profit, you open up the competition, not MANDATE that more victims participate. Edited by kbp, Feb 11 2010, 06:43 PM.
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| Joan Foster | Feb 11 2010, 10:37 PM Post #24 |
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I absolutely agrree, Baldo. What is there to fear about standing up to an unpopular President shilling for a despised Bill? Man up. prepare, and stand your ground. |
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| LTC8K6 | Feb 11 2010, 11:05 PM Post #25 |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703567204574499034177212064.html This is retaliation because Wellpoint has come out against Obamacare with an interesting report... |
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| kbp | Feb 11 2010, 11:24 PM Post #26 |
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Why that's hard to believe ...if you're all for national coverage. On a more serious note, I anticipate the health cost would increase a little with more people making appointments with their new coverage, but you'd think that with nearly all having coverage the entities providing the care would reduce prices with little to no patients without coverage, or, in other words, more people pay for the invoices. I haven't seen any details on that scenario from any actuaries. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 12 2010, 01:44 AM Post #27 |
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I smell it in the winds and feel it in my bones. The Republicans have already drunk the Kool-Aid. Not because they were thirsty, but because they wanted to be nice and they didn't know that the poison was already in there. If they had any guts they would have laughed in BHO's face, told him to stick it, and held their OWN Health Care Summit and invited him to come and LISTEN. But no.... BHO will get his photo ops, and the boring Republicans will try to cozy up. Where, dear Lord, are some Republicans with both brains and passion who can bring this thing back to the PEOPLE and get the rage going again? |
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| Concerned | Feb 12 2010, 02:07 AM Post #28 |
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I don't either, but Obama's Campaign promises and his "Barak Obama's Plan for a Healthy America" from his campaign website states that Obama's health plan will save the typical American family $2500 a year (through electronic records, exchanges, blah blah). So I'm guessing that people have assumed that their premiums would go down. Page 2 mentions the $2500 savings. http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/HealthPlanFull.pdf |
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| kbp | Feb 12 2010, 06:55 AM Post #29 |
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"...Obama's health plan will save ...through electronic records, exchanges..." ...and Gore invented the internet. Looks like Big Brother wants more information. I need to read there to see WHAT is involved in the plan that is not already in place. |
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| LTC8K6 | Feb 12 2010, 07:03 AM Post #30 |
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What is meaningful? How will folks afford insurance anyway? If they can't afford it now, how will they afford it later? The answer has got to be that the rest of us pay more to carry them... |
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