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Zer0 never attended Columbia?
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From “Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say” (at http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1):

One person who did remember Mr. Obama was Michael L. Baron, who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.

Columbia was a hotbed for discussion of foreign policy, Mr. Baron said. The faculty included Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser, and Zalmay Khalilzad, now the American ambassador to the United Nations. Half of the eight students in the seminar were outstanding, and Mr. Obama was among them, Mr. Baron said.

Michael J. Wolf, who took the seminar with him and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out.”

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Third Grade

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/ObamaThirdGrade.htm

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I'm tellin' you -- nobody knows anything about this guy -- every day it's a new mystery. I've said it before, the more I learn about this guy, the less I know about him.
Edited by longstop, Feb 10 2010, 10:18 AM.
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A person in his position should either be proud of their history or how it helped them to move to becoming better, as an example for all.
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Rusty Dog
Feb 10 2010, 04:52 AM
OK, I think I've got it.

0bama lived with the Pakistani students at Occidental and traveled to Pakistan with one of them before moving to Columbia and lived with another Pakistani (non-student) in NY. ALL of his records up to that point must list him as Muslim.

That's why he has to hide them now.  All of them.

He must have decided (or somebody in NY convinced him) to become Black before going to Harvard.

Bill Ayers????  He lived in the neighborhood.  

Rusty, Obama became Black the moment he figured out he had no brains. And since he was already lazy, color was the only thing left.



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longstop
Feb 10 2010, 10:16 AM
Third Grade

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/ObamaThirdGrade.htm

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I'm tellin' you -- nobody knows anything about this guy -- every day it's a new mystery. I've said it before, the more I learn about this guy, the less I know about him.

What amuses me, Long, is the way that his sycophants gush over the LEAST little thing. (They would probably swoon if Obama scratched an itch.) I accessed the link and the idiot there is gushing over the 'warm' note from Obama. Warm? It was typewritten, for crissakes. But look at what they were just wetting their pants over - Obama 'personally signed' it. (Oh, good grief.)

Sigh. It's hopeless. If people are determined to kiss the ass of a jackass, there's nothing you can do to stop them from puckering.




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longstop
Feb 10 2010, 10:16 AM
Third Grade

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/ObamaThirdGrade.htm

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I'm tellin' you -- nobody knows anything about this guy -- every day it's a new mystery. I've said it before, the more I learn about this guy, the less I know about him.
That is a bulleye, LS, this guy has a history of nothing. No college records, no birth records, no medical records, no nothing. Had I showed up to the Marine recruiter with no records, not even a birth certificate, I would have been turned away, just to be a private in the Marines. Now we have a president and commander and chief, that can't produce anything. What we have here is a "Manchurian Candidate" that won. This tells me the United States of America, as we know it will be gone, before he leaves office.
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Rusty just gave me a link to a disgusting photo that totally nails the arrogance of Obama. He's leaned back with his big fat feet on his desk, sticking them in the face of the five people standing in front of him. The slovenliness of that posture is bad enough - but the feet in the face is disgusting. BTW, about the photo - I don't know how to paste it (if anyone can, please do). But this photo truly says a 1000 words about the man.

BTW - one additional note - this photo is even more disgusting when one realizes that in the Muslim world, the worst insult is showing the soles of your shoes to another person. As I recall, brave American soldiers were fatally attacked in Mogadishu simply because they'd done that. Of course, it didn't matter to the damned Muslims that the 'insult' wasn't intended at all - the soldiers were simply riding in a chopper with their boots hanging out and the people on the ground below looked up and saw the soles of their feet. (For crissakes, how else is a damned soldier supposed to ride a damned chopper? Hanging from the rotor blades?) Anyway, Barack showing the soles of his shoes to his staff is bad enough, but as a closet Muslim, it's even worse.

Is there no insult too low for this jerk?


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/TheAnchoress/obamafeetondesk-1.jpg


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An ADDITIONAL link from Rusty to me to thee! This one is about the same photo I just linked above but now it is the Anchoress who is commenting on that horrible photo. She has a lot to say and it's worth reading. For instance, she is appalled by two additional photos - the President in front of sixth graders and the president in front of his staff. In BOTH instances, he insisted on having a 'presidential seal' podium placed between him and his audience. (The Anchoress refers to the podium as the "traveling Don’t-You-Know-Who-I-Am-I-Am-The-President-That’s-Who Podium With Presidential Seal".) Anyway, when the Anchoress saw those 'podium' photos, she confessed that her first thought was that they were photo-shopped. Her second thought was that they portrayed Obama to the world as 'an insecure fool'.

She then went on to talk about that appalling photo of him seated behind his Oval Office desk with his feet stuck in the faces of his advisers.

http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/2010/01/27/obamaporta-prompta-symptom-of-distress/

Some are talking about Linus and his security blanket. To me Obama more accurately resembles the responsibility-shirking Captain Queeg, with his marbles. What is going on with him? The teleprompter protects him from a slip of the tongue. The Podium creates a barrier between him and his “audience” such as it is, and all of it keeps everything at a distance. Even in this picture, the desk is a barrier, the legs outstretched to the max create distance, the soles of the feet denote a measure of disregard. This president is voluntarily isolating himself, even from his advisers. And again, the White House must think this makes Obama appear in control, but one could just as easily argue that he is surrounded by men who are standing above and looking down upon him.


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Here you go from two weeks ago
http://s1.zetaboards.com/Liestoppers_meeting/post/?mode=3&type=1&f=372578&t=2830086&p=298684&single=1

Either you get this or you don't. The Resolute desk is a very valuable historic piece of furniture. One could only imagine its worth is in the millions. However, beyond that this is a piece of national history where Presidents have sat making decisions that sent men into war and signed ground breaking legislation.

It is disrespectful for the oval office and to me, it shows his true feelings towards our American History. Ronald Reagan enforced the dress code in the office. Coats & ties were to be wore at all times out of respect for the American People.

Finally, any idiot knows not to sit with your feet up on a desk, never-mind for photos, that idiotic White House released these photos.

"The Resolute desk is a large, nineteenth-century partners' desk often chosen by presidents of the United States for use in the White House Oval Office. It was a present from Queen Victoria to President Rutherford B. Hayes in 1880 and was built from the timbers of the British barque-rigged ship Resolute. Every president since Hayes, except Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Gerald Ford, has used the desk. President George H. W. Bush had the desk moved to the Treaty Room in the Executive Residence because he preferred the desk he used when he was vice president; later, President Bill Clinton returned the desk to the Oval Office....

...A plate on the front of the desk presented to President Hayes bears the following inscription:

H.M.S. RESOLUTE forming part of the expedition sent in search of SIR JOHN FRANKLIN IN 1852, was abandoned in latitude 74 degrees 41minutes N longitude 101 degrees 22minutes W on 15th May 1854. She was discovered and extricated in September 1855 in latitude 67 degrees N by Captain Buddington of the United States Whaler GEORGE HENRY.

The ship was purchased, fitted out and sent to England as a gift to HER MAJESTY QUEEN VICTORIA by the PRESIDENT AND PEOPLE of the UNITED STATES as a token of goodwill & friendship. This table was made from her timbers when she was broken up, and is presented by the QUEEN OF GREAT BRITAIN to the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES as a memorial of the courtesy and loving kindness which dictated the offer of the gift of the RESOLUTE."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolute_desk

What arrogance and lack of respect

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Feb 10 2010, 07:04 AM
From “Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say” (at http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1):

One person who did remember Mr. Obama was Michael L. Baron, who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.

Columbia was a hotbed for discussion of foreign policy, Mr. Baron said. The faculty included Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser, and Zalmay Khalilzad, now the American ambassador to the United Nations. Half of the eight students in the seminar were outstanding, and Mr. Obama was among them, Mr. Baron said.

Michael J. Wolf, who took the seminar with him and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out.”

Personally I doubt he stood out as an erudite student of International Affairs. He hasn't shown me any great understanding of US History or Western Civilization by his gaffes.

Besides any discussion with Zbigniew Brzezinski, United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981, isn't a resume builder in my book. It might explain Obama's foreign affairs failures though.

I could care less if he attended courses. I don't think he would have needed to in Marxist Studies, er Political Science at Columbia.
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I gathered from the title of this thread and its opening post by LTC that the question to be discussed or decided was whether Obama actually attended Columbia. Other aspects of Obama’s life and career have received more than cursory treatment in a few other threads.

Are there folks here who still believe that Obama did NOT attend Columbia?

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Feb 10 2010, 10:51 PM
I gathered from the title of this thread and its opening post by LTC that the question to be discussed or decided was whether Obama actually attended Columbia. Other aspects of Obama’s life and career have received more than cursory treatment in a few other threads.

Are there folks here who still believe that Obama did NOT attend Columbia?

:angel:
It depends on the meaning of the words "attend", "believe", and "Obama". :biggrin:
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Feb 10 2010, 10:51 PM
I gathered from the title of this thread and its opening post by LTC that the question to be discussed or decided was whether Obama actually attended Columbia. Other aspects of Obama’s life and career have received more than cursory treatment in a few other threads.

Are there folks here who still believe that Obama did NOT attend Columbia?

:angel:
Your halo is getting a little tarnished. :laughin:

My OP is clearly a question. I even advise to take it with some salt. I also ask for a more credible source...

I do not know if Obama attended Columbia. If I take it as the truth, I still don't know what he did there.

Much more to the point would be what sort of student he was at any of his schools.

He was given grades, like I was, when I attended any school wasn't he? There are reports from faculty about his progress and behavior, etc., aren't there? Did he get disiciplined for "suspicion of throwing water" for example? How come we can find that out about a random Duke student?

Obama was supposedly a super popular guy. People wanted to know all about him, supposedly. Yet we know very little about how he was brought up, educated, etc.

We know very little about what he has actually done in politics, as well...if anything, prior to his Presidential run.

He's a mystery. As is his background. And that makes most people uneasy, imo.
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Like I said I don't doubt he attended classes at Columbia in Politcal Science. It is a mute issue at this point.

It would be nice to see the classes he took(minus his grades) and what was his senior thesis? I don't see the problem with that. But I think he does.
Edited by Baldo, Feb 11 2010, 01:27 AM.
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