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| abb | Feb 3 2010, 01:31 PM Post #136 |
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Perhaps this should be posted on the Tiger Woods thread and should see if Locomotive Breath would like to weigh in? (JUST KIDDING, JUST KIDDING!!) http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/edwards_hit_wife_during_heated_fight_zmFsOJNcwtg9yNt2y92rZJ Edwards hit wife during heated fight: report By JEANE MacINTOSH Last Updated: 12:43 PM, February 3, 2010 Posted: 12:04 PM, February 3, 2010 Disgraced former presidential candidate John Edwards reportedly beat his cancer-stricken wife during a horrific marriage-ending fight. "John lost his temper big time," a close friend of Elizabeth's revealed to the National Enquirer. "She has the divorce papers drawn up, but she can amend them to charge John with domestic violence." The couple's furious confrontation was the "final straw" in Elizabeth's decision to end their 32-year marriage after it was revealed that he had fathered a child out of wedlock with his ex-mistress Rielle Hunter, the newspaper revealed today in a bombshell report on its Web site. "When [John] made the decision to hit me, it was over," a friend said Elizabeth told her. Last month, Edwards finally admitted that he had fathered Hunter's 2-year-old daughter Frances. Another friend revealed that Elizabeth sometimes also phycially attacked her husband when talking about his affair with Hunter. "She was so tormented by John's cheating and lies that she lashed out physically at him many times, even slapping him," said a friend. "On a couple of occasions, when the fights became heated, she grabbed him by the shoulders and screamed, 'Why, why, why?!' "Elizabeth would break down in tears and try to make John explain why he was throwing his family and political life away. "During one of the confrontations, Elizabeth grabbed his arms and shook him so hard that John had to restrain her." These revelations come as onetime Edwards loyalist Andrew Young released details of the affair in his new book, "The Politician," and the ensuing coverup of the affair with Hunter and their love child. |
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| cks | Feb 3 2010, 01:45 PM Post #137 |
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This might go a long way to explaining why she decided to initiate divorce proceedings now - when it seemed as if all the dirt (except the sex tape - which I bet she had some inkling existed) was already out and there had been this public demonstration - via the Oprah interview - that they were committed to making their marriage work. Edited by cks, Feb 3 2010, 01:46 PM.
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| MikeGaynor | Feb 3 2010, 05:56 PM Post #138 |
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As John Edwards' mentor and partner (and former head of the North Carolina Democrat Party), Wade Smith is there to do his best for friend and party and a predictable choice for a defense attorney in the Duke case if money was not a problem. The Duke "no rape" case was a Democrat scandal, but Democrats didn't and don't want to admit that and thus the settlement included an unprecedented declaration of innocence by Attorney General Cooper followed by Wade Smith opining that there was no need to prosecute Crystal Gail Magnum and the false accuser getting a pass. The whole story of Obama and ACORN is not (yet) generally known, because the liberal media establishment did not want it known. There are things about the Duke case that have not been written too. Political interests explain such things. The elevation of political correctness above truth plus lust for power and political corruption gave us the shameful injustice of the Duke case AND the Age of Obama. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 3 2010, 07:51 PM Post #139 |
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Mike, you tease us, why? You must write a book once you no longer need these clowns as sources. People like Wade Smith, Edwards, Obama, et al., all drink from the same cup. I feel dirty even discussing these people let alone trying to understand what makes them tick. |
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| MikeGaynor | Feb 3 2010, 08:12 PM Post #140 |
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Consider it a head's up, not a tease. I keep confidences, but that doesn't mean I don't do computer searches and read between lines. Ever check the John Edwards donor list? Mary Ellen Finnerty Information Requested Information Requested Updated Q1/2007 John Edwards $2,300 Garden City NY Kevin Finnerty Information Requested Information Requested Updated Q1/2007 John Edwards $2,300 Garden City NY Fortunately, the head of CBS News and Sports was the same Dukie and he was not about to let the lacrosse players be sacrificed on tha altar of political correctness. "60 Minutes" took up the case, but not to report it as a Democrat disgrace. Edited by Quasimodo, Feb 3 2010, 10:57 PM.
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| Deleted User | Feb 3 2010, 09:07 PM Post #141 |
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I don't remember Edwards speaking out for RDC. Correct me if I am wrong. Are you suggesting that was the price of doing business with Wade Smith, or the Finnertys thought that it was? |
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| chatham | Feb 3 2010, 09:13 PM Post #142 |
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a lot of folks believed strongly in John Edwards. Outwardly he was very attractive as a candidate for higher office. I will caveat that with the sense that many people in North Carolina did not like John Edwards. It was mostly people from out of state that were strong advocates and financial supporters for his political advancements. In NC, he was a jerk who cared more about his own self than the people of NC.. Edited by Quasimodo, Feb 3 2010, 10:59 PM.
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| Deleted User | Feb 3 2010, 09:16 PM Post #143 |
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Yes, many people thought he was a jerk in NC. After his election, he removed all doubt. |
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| Rusty Dog | Feb 3 2010, 09:18 PM Post #144 |
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"In NC, he was a jerk who cared more about his own self than the people of NC.." That's the way I consistently thought of him. |
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| Baldo | Feb 3 2010, 09:21 PM Post #145 |
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Hannity is going to play the voice mail tapes now
Edited by Baldo, Feb 3 2010, 09:23 PM.
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| MikeGaynor | Feb 3 2010, 09:48 PM Post #146 |
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RDC? Reprehensible Democrats of Carolina? Please spell it out for me. The Finnertys, Democrats, faced with a frame up of Colin in Durham, North Carolina , retained Wade for his legal skills and political influence and also supported the now generally recognized as despicable trial lawyer candidate, Edwards, who happened to be Wade's protege and former partner and pandered to ACORN and SEIU. Both Edwards and Kevin Finnerty had Fortress Investment ties. As for whether or not Edwards referred the Finnertys to Wade, I don't know. But hiring Wade Smith struck me as smart in several respects. Wikipedia: "In October 2005, Edwards joined the Wall Street investment firm Fortress Investment Group as a senior adviser, later working with them as a consultant.[62] Unknown to Edwards,[63] Fortress owned a major stake in Green Tree Servicing LLC, which rose to prominence in the 1990s selling subprime loans to mobile-home owners and now services subprime loans originated by others. Subprime loans allow buyers with poor credit histories to be funded, but they charge higher rates because of the risk, and sometimes carry hidden fees and increased charges over time.[63] In August 2007, The Wall Street Journal reported that a portion of the Edwards family's assets were invested in Fortress Investment Group, which had, in turn, invested a portion of its assets in subprime mortgage lenders, some of which had foreclosed on the homes of Hurricane Katrina victims.[64][65] Upon learning of Fortress' investments, Edwards divested funds and stated that he would try to help the affected families.[66] Edwards later helped set up an ACORN-administered "Louisiana Home Rescue Fund" seeded with $100,000, much of it from his pocket, to provide loans and grants to the families who were foreclosed on by Fortress-owned lenders.[67]" Hedge-Fund Ties Help Edwards Campaign Firms Increase Political Gifts Who's Blogging» Links to this article By John Solomon and Alec MacGillis Washington Post Staff Writers Monday, April 23, 2007 Two years ago, former senator John Edwards of North Carolina, gearing up for his second run at the Democratic presidential nomination, gave a speech decrying the "two different economies in this country: one for wealthy insiders and then one for everybody else." Four months later, he began working for the kind of firm that to many Wall Street critics embodies the economy of wealthy insiders -- a hedge fund. Edwards became a consultant for Fortress Investment Group, a New York-based firm known mainly for its hedge funds, just as the funds were gaining prominence in the financial world -- and in the public consciousness, where awe over their outsize returns has mixed with misgivings about a rarefied industry that is, on the whole, run by and for extremely wealthy people and operates largely in secrecy. A midsize but growing player in the hedge fund industry with more than $30 billion in assets, Fortress was the first hedge fund manager to go public, thereby subjecting itself to far more scrutiny. But it was an unusual choice of employment for Edwards, who for years has decried offshore tax shelters as part of his broader campaign to reduce inequality. While Fortress was incorporated in Delaware, its hedge funds were incorporated in the Cayman Islands, enabling its partners and foreign investors to defer or avoid paying U.S. taxes. Fortress announced Edwards's hiring as an adviser in a brief statement in October 2005. Neither Edwards -- who ended his consulting deal when he launched his presidential campaign in December -- nor the firm will say how much he earned or what he did. But his ties to Fortress were suggested by the first round of campaign finance reports released last week. They showed that Edwards raised $167,460 in donations from Fortress employees for his 2008 presidential campaign, his largest source of support from a single company. Nearly 100 Fortress employees or their family members donated to Edwards around the time of a fundraiser his campaign held at the firm in mid-March. Senior executives, individual fund managers, lawyers and a secretary gave the maximum $2,300 donation. Three administrative or executive assistants gave smaller amounts. Edwards's connection to Fortress is only one sign of the emergence in national politics of the booming $1.4 trillion hedge fund industry. One of the fastest-growing and most controversial segments of the worldwide investment market, it has campaigned to fend off additional federal regulation and has become increasingly generous in campaign donations. During the 2006 midterm elections, its executives and employees accounted for $6 million in campaign contributions, the first time its giving was tracked as a separate industry, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The investment and securities industry as a whole accounted for $65 million in federal political contributions. Kevin J. Finnerty, father of Collin Finnerty, sits on the Board of Directors of Newcastle Investment Corporation, a subsidiary of Fortress Investment Group LLC, a $15 billlion hedge fund. In addition he is Founder and Managing Partner of F. I. Capital Management. Brief Biography Kevin J. Finnerty has been a member of board of directors of Newcastle Investment Corp. and a member of the Audit Committee, Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee and Compensation Committee of Company's board of directors since August 2005. Mr. Finnerty has been a director of Newcastle Investment Holdings LLC (the predecessor of Newcastle) since its inception in 1998. Mr. Finnerty is the Founding Partner of Galton Capital Group, a residential mortgage credit fund manager. Mr. Finnerty is a former founder and the Managing Partner of F.I. Capital Management, an investment company focused on agency-mortgage related strategies. Previously, Mr. Finnerty was a Managing Director at J.P. Morgan Securities Inc., where he headed the Residential Mortgage Securities Department. Mr. Finnerty joined Chase Securities Inc. in December of 1999. Prior to joining Chase Securities Inc., Mr. Finnerty worked at Union Bank of Switzerland from November 1996 until February 1998, where he headed the Mortgage Backed Securities Department, and at Freddie Mac from January 1999 until June 1999, where he was a Senior Vice President. Between 1986 and 1996, Mr. Finnerty was with Bear Stearns & Co. Inc., where he was a Senior Managing Director and ultimately headed the MBS Department and served as a member of the board of directors from 1993 until 1996. Mr. Finnerty was Co-Chair of the North American People Committee at JPMorganChase and Chairman of the Mortgage and Asset-Backed Division of the Bond Market Association for the year 2003. |
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| Quasimodo | Feb 3 2010, 10:19 PM Post #147 |
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Failure of any member of that group to do so might have been considered a deliberate snub, though... I've always assumed that Cooper was under intense pressure from every political organization in the state (from the NAACP on down) to let the case continue. There was, as far as he was concerned, no downside to letting it go to trial. He wouldn't lose any votes over this. And he spent far, far too much time "examining" the case for me to consider him a Judge Horton. He could have wrapped up his investigation in two weeks (and there was no need for him to go on a photo shoot to the house with a measuring tape). He held all the cards and had a lot to bargain with. It was essential for the defendants that he not just drop the charges, or worse, drop them without prejudice; but that he go all the way and make an innocence declaration --which was the only just thing to do; but for which he was able to extract a price-- the price being, that Crystal would not be prosecuted (that would have a lot of downside for him and would cost him votes); and that the feds be kept away (there is a lot to uncover in NC). That would protect his flanks with the voters and would also protect the other pols in the state. It was a compromise that the state political machine could live with. Take it or leave it. (I imagine we could have seen scenes of cheering at NCCU if he had come out and piously said that the proper forum for airing such a controversial case was the courtroom, and so he was going to allow a jury to decide, etc. Nobody in the state, not in the press, nor at Duke, nor anywhere else, would have criticized him for this. Instead, he would have been praised for his statesman-like decision. Brodhead I'm sure would have been particularly eloquent. And if there were convictions, then, like Pilate, he could have washed his hands of the matter. It wasn't his fault.) I assume all the lawyers worked this out among themselves without the families being involved (there was no need for them to be involved; and it was better that they were not. Politics is best carried on in the dark.) Being out of the loop, the Finnertys then immediately called for a federal investigation again right after the Innocence Declaration; but Wade Smith phoned either Easley or Cooper and IMHO reassured him that this was "premature" and unnecessary. To me, this seemed to suggest that the lawyers among themselves had agreed to keep the feds at bay. To sum up, the defense attorneys weren't able to get full "justice", but this is earth, and that bird is more rare here than the Dodo. They were never able to play just by the rules of criminal procedure. They never once had the chance to work in an unbiased court or work with unbiased LE. Considering that three innocent lives were at stake, and could more easily have been sent to a biased trial than not (with uncertain outcome), I can only think that the defense lawyers did the best they could with the situation that confronted them, in a corrupt state. And that they saved their clients. (JMOO) Edited by Quasimodo, Feb 3 2010, 10:23 PM.
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| brittany | Feb 3 2010, 10:54 PM Post #148 |
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I would have sold everything and gone into debt to hire the best attorney I could to have the best chance of saving my innocent kid from being railroaded and sent to prison.. How is that so different than any of the lax families?
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| Joan Foster | Feb 3 2010, 11:02 PM Post #149 |
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Thank you, Mike...and Quasi. It's quite stunning to look at everything that occurred and begin to see ...even among the "good guys"....so many divergent interests. The attorneys were part of that N.C. "system"...and they would return back to it..and therefore I guess that "innocent" declaration was more than enough for them. There were alliances to protect. I doubt it was enough for the Seligmanns...remembering their morning after innocence declaration. So now, I suppose...seeing Cooney and Smith as part of the Edwards team seems more...understandable to me. Edwards is just part of the natural habitat from whence they all came. No doubt this is why Stephens cried for Nifong. Within the N.C. legal community, in retrospect. maybe they didn't view him as that different from the norm. Edited by Joan Foster, Feb 3 2010, 11:03 PM.
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| Quasimodo | Feb 3 2010, 11:06 PM Post #150 |
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I would not have blamed them for simply making a payoff at the very start. It's very, very hard to fight a corrupt system. That would not have changed the innocence of the players; it would just have been a recognition of the nature of NC. When they fight for reform in NC they are really fighting someone else's battle--that someone else being every future defendant in NC. They needn't do this. It won't win them any plaudits. And it won't be of use to them in the future (I can't imagine them going back there.) But they ought to get recognition for this from those who are reform-minded in NC; and that would include (or ought to include) every law school; the ACLU; the Innocence Project; the NAACP; etc. etc. We should ask what it says about all those reform groups that they do not back these demands in the suits... |
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