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| Deleted User | Jan 18 2010, 11:59 AM Post #91 |
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Obama to Rham: "Hey Rham, This is Bamy. Just need a shout out about this Haiti gig. Is there any way I can become Haiti's president" Rham: "We're working on that. I'll get back to you. Talking with HPR ( Holder, Pelosi, Reid" Obama: "Shouldn't be too hard for you guys. After all. Money has always bought us votes. Ought to work in Haiti" Rham: "They don't vote like we do" Obama: "Hey man. No problem. Send down our ACORN friends. THey'll take care of it" Rham: "Man. Just go golfing and stay out of this. We got it covered. Obama: "Right man. Oh, by the way. How much TARP money does it look like Mass will cost us?" Rham: " I told you man. Stay out of it. Just show up and vote "present" by your charisma and let me and the OTHERS take care of it" Obama: "Gotcha. Just wondering. Is SOROS in on the plan?" Rham: "I TOLD YOU TO STAY OUT OF IT. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR NEXT APPEARENCE IS. JUST DON'T %$#%@ IT UP BY SAYING SOMETHING STUPID." |
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| Joan Foster | Jan 18 2010, 02:25 PM Post #92 |
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| retiredLEO | Jan 18 2010, 02:52 PM Post #93 |
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Maybe there is a lesson to be learned here. With all the things you could do here in the US why travel to a third world country. Couldn't they have done some community service in some poverty stricken area of the U.S.? When you travel to a country that has no infrastructue, there can always be unintended circumstances. This was a city that you would have had a hard time getting around, even in the best of times. I can't believe that they think the military, is the end all be all of rescuing people trapped in the rubble of a hotel. Any rescuer would need heavy equipment to move the rubble and that is what they can't get into these areas. I was in the military, trained first and foremost in being a basic US Marine, then in supply and logistics, then in military policy and security, not in rescue. I could secure the hotel, protect it, try to supply it, but not rescue people buried under the rubble. I could try, but then I could also be trapped and require rescuing. Add to this the fact that the State Department, has the responsibility of helping U.S. citizens traveling abroad. I remember when we did drills, on overseas emergencies, we needed State Department approval, before evacuating U.S. citizens. The DoD didn't have the authority to evacuate. I feel sorry for the families of these students, but with 45 to 50 thousand US citizens in Haiti, we have to look at the big picture. I know if my only daughter was in Haiti, I would be concerned, upset and worried, but know she is just 1 of many that may need rescuing. We have lots of rescue units in Haiti, but they need to be provided with security, plus the rescuers are responding, to where there are signs of life. There is a big diffenence between rescue and recovery. Perhaps these student are in some isolated nursery, taking care of children and have no way to communicate with relatives. How many people have we seen in Miami, FL, that are Haitian, trying to communicate with there families in Haiti? I hate to sound like the grim reeper here, but as my father, God bless his soul, used to say, use your common sense son, you have to face reality. I don't think I could or would get on national television and beg the President of the U.S. to help my daughter. All we can do here is say a prayer, open our wallets and stay out of the way of the real professionals. Begging in television is not going to speed anything up. Obama is not the god that the people thought he was in 2008, he can only rely on the professionals, on the scene. |
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| LTC8K6 | Jan 18 2010, 10:14 PM Post #94 |
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http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1953379_1953494,00.html CVN-70 USS Carl Vinson is now off Haiti distilling water. My company recently built some equipment for CVN-70, and it's now aboard, which is kinda' cool. Didn't some folks have a fit when an aircraft carrier was sent to help with a certain tsunami? |
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| Rusty Dog | Jan 18 2010, 10:28 PM Post #95 |
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I want to give a report on the "Hearts with Haiti" organization that I posted on early on that I was going to give a donation to. There are many, many church groups that have relationships with various areas in Haiti. I think they all are going to be an important part of the relief effort. My church houses the Hearts with Haiti office and three members of our congregation are board members (one is the director), so our church has had a long history with the three locations that are the family of Hearts with Haiti. The St. Joseph's Home for Boys' (a "family" and school for street orphans) building was destroyed. Five of the seven floors collapsed with several people inside. The director was injured. A guest was killed. Mercifully the children were all outside waiting until time for chapel to begin, so all of the boys are fine. Wings of Hope, a home for special needs children at another location, had recently finished some renovations, but still has substantial damage. But, the new kitchen is still standing and all the kids from both locations are being cared for safely there. Crowded, but safe. The third location is OK, I think, but it is impossible to travel to and from there. Supplies are probably limited there. One of my friends, a board member, traveled with a small team to Haiti (probably through Santo Domingo) and delivered a satellite phone, a generator, and water purifiers to leave behind. The team brought the injured director to Ft. Lauderdale where he could receive his first real medical attention. The director is now here in NC, where he will recover in my friend's home before returning. I'm sure they will spend that time making plans for the next steps. I thought the items that my friend and the others took down were wise choices. The school will be able to operate well with those and not be a drain on the other relief efforts. We are all praying for Bill's recovery. (Xrays in the FL hospital show broken ribs, but no internal organ damage.) If you go to http://www.heartswithhaiti.org/ you can click on a newsclip about Bill from ABC World News. |
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| retiredLEO | Jan 18 2010, 10:32 PM Post #96 |
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I don't know who to donate too. So I will go back to my birth. I was adoped, through CATHOLIC CHARITIES, in Boston, MA. They are no longer involved themselves in adoptions, because the courts in MA, let same sex couples adopt children. I was taken care of for 5 months, by Catholic Charities, was adopted and then Catholic Carities, checked on my well being for a year. So my meager donation will go to Catholic Charities, not to the WH or Red Cross, but to an organization that took care of me from birth to 5 months of age. I don't know what they will do with the money, but I trust them to use my donation wisely. |
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| Rusty Dog | Jan 18 2010, 10:39 PM Post #97 |
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LEO, I think that is a wise choice, too. The need is so great that all of these charities are needed to help. Like you, I want to give money to groups that give actual care to the people. I would never donate through the government. I just saw a remarkable story on Fox about Dr. Bill Frist, former Senate Majority Leader, arriving in Haitie with a team of other surgeons, and how they started performing surgeries almost right away. They will be able to relieve the doctors who have been working 20 hours a day for 6 days so far. They are a part of the Samaritan's Purse organization. |
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| kbp | Jan 18 2010, 11:59 PM Post #98 |
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If any are actually looking for a charity that will not waste or abuse your donation, I personally know the majority of executives at Heart To Heart, International. They were originated in my home town by a group of medical professionals, which pulled millions & millions of dollars in doanted medical supplies to help around the world, most often items that were of value, but ruled not to be used in the US (age of product...). Dr. Morsch (of Olathe) had a team there before the quake, has supplies presently shipping AND also much already arriving. Their operations are always in the news here. (if it helps any, I am not involved with them!) Edited by kbp, Jan 19 2010, 12:00 AM.
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| brittany | Jan 19 2010, 07:27 AM Post #99 |
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The French minister is criticizing the US for our response to Haiti that we are acting like we are "Occupying" Haiti. The nerve! I have no use for France They always seem to forget the help we gave them in WWII. They never disappoint. And O wants us all to learn French??? Edited by brittany, Jan 19 2010, 08:27 AM.
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| brittany | Jan 19 2010, 09:10 AM Post #100 |
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Now US air dropping supplies cause of airport situation. Update | 8:22 a.m. The BBC reports on Tuesday that the United States military has started airdrops of food and water in Haiti. According to the BBC: Some 14,000 ready-to-eat meals and 15,000 litres of water were dropped north-east of the capital Port-au-Prince, the U.S. said. It had earlier said airdrops were too risky but congestion at the airport has hampered aid distribution. The U.S. is now considering airdrops across Haiti. The BBC’s Web site published footage shot from a helicopter dropping boxes of “meals ready to eat,” showing a scramble to get the aid by the needy Haitians below. http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/latest-updates-on-the-crisis-in-haiti-2/?hp video of airpdrop Edited by brittany, Jan 19 2010, 09:12 AM.
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| brittany | Jan 19 2010, 10:13 AM Post #101 |
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54 Orphans flown to Pittsburgh for adoption. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 19 2010, 10:31 AM Post #102 |
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My heart is warmed by each of your personal stories. I shall continue to donate through Reliv International's Kalogris Foundation, named in honor of the WHO scientist/ humanitarian who developed our incredible nutritional product. We have been feeding children in Haiti for years, constructed wells for pure water, and because the children were flocking to the feeding station for the food, we constructed a school for them as well. The feeding station is headed by Dr. Mano, a Haitian medical doctor. It is in northern Haiti, and word is that they are all safe. Our VP makes frequent visits to both Haiti and the Phillapines, where we feed thousands of children each day on Smoky Mountain... the trash heap in Manila. Overall, we feed 45,000 children around the world through the Kalogris Foundation. Many of them cannot even drink the nutrition in the full strength that we serve to our own children and grandchildren in the US, because their poor little bodies are unable to handle it, even though it is designed for children. I spent two years in India in the Peace Corps, back in my day, doing public health nursing. I have seen a lot. If I were younger I would be right in the midst of things in Haiti, doing my part. Instead, I will send my money and prayers to those who can make a difference. Americans are the most generous people on earth. They will gladly give to those in need. But we do NOT want the government to rip it out of our hands so the bureaucrats can skim off most of it for their own use and leave only the dregs to go to those in need. It amazes me that the world watches this outpouring of compassion from Americans... many of whom are going on their own time, without any thought of remuneration, and yet somehow the world does not connect the dots... This is who we REALLY are! |
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| Bill Anderson | Jan 19 2010, 10:42 AM Post #103 |
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Do you have confirmation on that? My wife and I have discussed doing a Haitian adoption. Right now, we are trying to adopt a girl from NYC, but the process is very slow and the agency there is doing everything it can to throw sand in the gears. Obviously, if this does not come through, we would be open to a Haitian adoption.
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| Baldo | Jan 19 2010, 10:44 AM Post #104 |
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cataclysm 1. A violent upheaval that causes great destruction or brings about a fundamental change. 2. A violent and sudden change in the earth's crust. 3. A devastating flood. As in Katrina we found out that a cataclysmic event is beyond the immediate power of government to respond. When the infrastructure is destroyed there is not much you can do because you lose the ability to move. |
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| brittany | Jan 19 2010, 12:23 PM Post #105 |
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Bill, I saw it on the news today. An American young woman who traveled with the orphans was doing a press conference with the a man who was either the mayor of Pittsburgh or GOv. of Pa. Her sister is traveling later today with another child. The kids are babies up to age 10. http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/national-96/126360471110100.xml&storylist=penn Sisters to take 150 Haitian orphans to Pittsburgh 1/15/2010, 7:20 p.m. EST The Associated Press (AP) — PITTSBURGH - Two sisters who run an orphanage in Haiti have received permission to bring 150 Haitian children to Pittsburgh. Jamie and Ali McMutrie are from the Pittsburgh suburb of Ben Avon. They have lived in Port-au-Prince since 2007 and run an orphanage called BRESMA. The three-house orphanage was mostly destroyed by Tuesday's massive earthquake. Former federal prosecutor Mary Beth Buchanan said Friday that the sisters have gotten permission to bring the children to Pittsburgh. Buchanan says the only remaining hurdle is getting approval to land a plane in Haiti. She says she doesn't know when that could happen. Allegheny County officials say they are mobilizing workers and volunteers to prepare for the arrival of the children. Edited by brittany, Jan 19 2010, 12:27 PM.
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