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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 12 2010, 08:33 PM (3,139 Views) | |
| kbp | Jan 16 2010, 10:35 PM Post #76 |
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Clue: Where's Hillary? He may be there for all I know! Edited by kbp, Jan 16 2010, 10:36 PM.
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| DMom | Jan 16 2010, 10:43 PM Post #77 |
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Clue # 2 Hillary is dispensible -- let's send her and minions (and hundreds of thousands of $$) to spend night on tarmac in Haiti. Bill C is much more comfortable with his 'minions'/escorts/ "friends" in US. Question Who will appear (in solemn manner) on Monday, somewhere , with lots of media presence ? |
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| retiredLEO | Jan 16 2010, 10:47 PM Post #78 |
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Bill Clinton is up in Masschusetts campainging for Coakley. |
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| LTC8K6 | Jan 16 2010, 10:48 PM Post #79 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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Did they shoot at Hillary again? |
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| genny6348 | Jan 16 2010, 10:51 PM Post #80 |
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Same reason. "If she comes back in once piece it's safe for me to go." |
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| retiredLEO | Jan 16 2010, 10:55 PM Post #81 |
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Never let a crisis go to waist, this is a great example. This is all about politics, it started the day the earthquake hit. They don't care about people, they care about their power. This president is so anit-US, I am surprised anyone donated to anyone. Just let the feds pay, in other words, the taxpayers. So every one paying taxes is donating. Let's give a big Horah, for Rahm Emanuel, who could care less about Haiti. This is a crisis that we can't let go to waste, Mr President, you will come out of this as a HERO.
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| Mason | Jan 16 2010, 11:07 PM Post #82 |
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Or if she comes back in one piece, it's time for me (Bill) to leave the Country. . |
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| Mason | Jan 16 2010, 11:09 PM Post #83 |
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They are all about seizing Crises. I know we're not supposed to say that, but does anyone think the media and Dem Party won't hail the "work" Obama did with Haiti? Does anyone think Michelle won't win awards (in reality she did a commercial from the sofa). . |
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| Quasimodo | Jan 16 2010, 11:25 PM Post #84 |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/16/AR2010011602921.html Frictions between nations rise over struggle of getting aid to Haiti (snip) France, Brazil and Italy were said to be upset, and the Red Cross said one of its planes was diverted to Santo Domingo, the capital of neighboring Dominican Republic. The French government became so annoyed when a plane with an emergency field hospital was turned back Friday that foreign minister Bernard Kouchner lodged a protest with the State Department, according to the French ambassador to Haiti, Didier Le Bret. Le Bret said that the Port-au-Prince airport has become "not an airport for the international community. It is an annex of Washington." "We were told it was an extreme emergency, there was a need for a field hospital," the ambassador said. "We might be able to make a difference and save lives." At the same time, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton flew in for a visit with Haitian President Rene Preval, as the Haitian government worked to maintain a presence amid the ruins of Port-au-Prince. [This is why all celebrity and political visitors need to be kept out of disaster zones. They prevent the rescuers from doing their jobs and take up helicopters, etc., (for security, and to ferry the press around with them) which are desperately needed elsewhere. ] |
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| Baldo | Jan 17 2010, 12:29 AM Post #85 |
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I am not there but I can imagine the terrible logistical problems they are facing. There is one runway and the control tower is down. There is no fuel at the airport for planes to use. There is limited parking area and limited unloading equipment. It is a nightmare. The Port is lost so the only way to bring in supplies by air or by road over the mountains.We are talking primitive roads and bridges. No electricity, no running water, no sewage treatment.You have 3 million people and no amount of helicopters flying off an aircraft carrier can feed them. I see no other outcome but devastation. In olden times this is what happened. It was one of the greatest natural disasters in European history. The 8.7 earthquake that struck Portugal in 1755 killed at least 60,000 people, and triggered tsunamis (giant waves) that wrecked seaports in Portugal, Spain, and Morocco. The estimated magnitude of 8.7 makes the 1755 earthquake 20 times stronger than the 1906 San Francisco earthquake. It generated a 5- to 10-meter-high (16- to 33-foot-high) tsunami wave, which swept across the coasts of Spain, southern Portugal and Morocco, devastating most of the ports and dragging people and debris out to sea. Shaking was felt in France, Italy, and North Africa. The quake was reported to have lasted for as long as ten minutes. The disaster was a setback to a powerful trading nation—Lisbon may have been the richest city in Europe at the time—and caused an important shift in the balance of power of the era. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/08/0830_040830_portugal_quake.html Civilizations do cease to exist in cataclysmic events. Katrina was a large disaster and now its time for another administration to face the reality of how frail civilizations can be. I won't be criticizing them. It will be an impossible task. I imagine we will upset for a few weeks then the media will move away. It is so sad. Edited by Baldo, Jan 17 2010, 12:36 AM.
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| kbp | Jan 17 2010, 12:37 AM Post #86 |
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I have no doubt she'll have more tall tales that she needs to tell the world about. |
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| Concerned | Jan 17 2010, 04:32 AM Post #87 |
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U.S. may house Haitian refugees in Guantanamo The U.S. may use facilities at Guantanamo Bay to house refugees from the Haitian earthquake, according to a Pentagon official. At a press briefing yesterday, Gen. Douglas Fraser, head of U.S. Southern Command, said the Departmen of Defense is considering using Guantanamo Bay as part of the U.S. relief efforts. "It's a resource that's available if we need to take advantage of it for various reasons," Fraser said. "So we're looking across the region to just understand what the possibilities are there." Guantanamo Bay is the closest military outpost to Haiti. Ironically, the first detention facilities at Guantanamo were built in 1991 to house refugees from the Haitian military coup in 1991. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/75939-us-may-house-haitian-refugees-in-guantanamo |
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| cks | Jan 18 2010, 09:02 AM Post #88 |
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Quasi - What you wrote is so true. A group here in Ohio (a search and rescue team) has been sitting on the tarmac at Wright-Pat for four dyas now (at a cost of $8,000.00 per day that they are activated) because they cannot get clearance for landing in Haiti/Dominican Republic. Why can't there be a pool of reporters rather than each network having a full contingent of people down in Haiti running around, using roads (that should be free so that relief can be delivered), using up resources that could be distributed to those that truly need them? Why was it necessary for Madame Clinton to make a visit? It would seem to me that the first priority should be getting crues in to free what people might still be alive, quickly bury the dead, distribute food, water, and tents, assess those facilites that are still usable and stabilize them, and institute some semblance of law and order before anarchy is the rule of the day. Edited by cks, Jan 18 2010, 09:03 AM.
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| Rusty Dog | Jan 18 2010, 09:09 AM Post #89 |
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As I understand it, one of the airport's problems is lack of "parking space" for the planes that land and then having enough fuel for them to leave. Why aren't all the planes being required to land in the Dominican Republic first, top off their tanks, and then fly into Haiti. The port there is still good, the fuel can be delivered there. The biggest effort should be in offloading the cargo quickly and let the planes take off again right away. I'm thinking of the Berlin Airlift, where planes were landing every minute or so. Why didn't they ask me earlier? I think the rescue and relief effort could have been better coordinated. Edited by Rusty Dog, Jan 18 2010, 09:10 AM.
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| Joan Foster | Jan 18 2010, 10:59 AM Post #90 |
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http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/rutland_student.html Pleading with Obama again. Have they even gotten a comfort call? |
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Let's give a big Horah, for Rahm Emanuel, who could care less about Haiti. This is a crisis that we can't let go to waste, Mr President, you will come out of this as a HERO.

9:29 AM Jul 11