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7.0 earthquake In Haiti
Topic Started: Jan 12 2010, 08:33 PM (3,143 Views)
LTC8K6
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG5w7oo-vak

Not related to the Haiti quake, but a neat video of a dog apparently sensing an earthquake a few seconds before it starts shaking the building.

This was in CA.

Edit: CA not NC, I was only a little off...
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Posted Image Haiti still having aftershocks.
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I believe the Arcata earthquake was in CA.
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My church houses the office for Hearts with Haiti. I'm sending my donation through them to help. They have extensive relationship with St Joseph Boy's Home and two other orphanages. I felt that they would get some help into the country quickly.

www.heartswithhaiti.org

Perhaps there are other organizations out there who will be helping with rebuilding, water supply, burials, etc.

For some reason, I didn't want to go through the Red Cross this time. Maybe because the needs are so great and they often seem to be around for the initial time period. I am very possibly wrong about that, but decided to go with the local group I know for this one.
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LTC8K6
Jan 13 2010, 03:40 PM
We could pay a whole bunch of out of work US Citizens to go down there and help out. They'll need lots of help now and lots of help rebuilding.

Instead of just sending money and wondering where it might have gone.
Great idea, I see a whole ton of construction jobs, waiting for them.
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We could pay a whole bunch of out of work US Citizens to go down there and help out. They'll need lots of help now and lots of help rebuilding.

Instead of just sending money and wondering where it might have gone.


LTC, in the "comments" section of the Red Cross website last night I saw hundreds of unemployed nurses volunteering to go down there, I suppose on their own dime.

Question is, where would they stay - in a tent?
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Jan 13 2010, 06:26 PM
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We could pay a whole bunch of out of work US Citizens to go down there and help out. They'll need lots of help now and lots of help rebuilding.

Instead of just sending money and wondering where it might have gone.


LTC, in the "comments" section of the Red Cross website last night I saw hundreds of unemployed nurses volunteering to go down there, I suppose on their own dime.

Question is, where would they stay - in a tent?
Where do you think they stay in a combat zone? That is where the docs and nurses stayed in the 1st Gulf War, in the Viet Nam War in the Korean War.
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The destruction appears to be on a scale of huge proportions. Haiti is most likely doomed to more decades of severe poverty.

The Haiti I remember doesn't even have construction codes for many of their buildings. Some areas have no streets or design. They just grow up.

Sewer, water, and basic infrastructure is horrible. I saw running sewer going down ditches in the street and people just stopping in the public and urinating. Sewer water was just released in the bay. Apparently the better sections with more modern construction and facilities also got hit hard bad.

Concrete construction has very poor quality cement mixed too thinly with little rebar in many structures. I remember going by the land-fill and seeing people living off what was thrown out.


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Jan 13 2010, 06:54 PM
The destruction appears to be on a scale of huge proportions. Haiti is most likely doomed to more decades of severe poverty.

The Haiti I remember doesn't even have construction codes for many of their buildings. Some areas have no streets or design. They just grow up.

Sewer, water, and basic infrastructure is horrible. I saw running sewer going down ditches in the street and people just stopping in the public and urinating. Sewer water was just released in the bay. Apparently the better sections with more modern construction and facilities also got hit hard bad.

Concrete construction has very poor quality cement mixed too thinly with little rebar in many structures. I remember going by the land-fill and seeing people living off what was thrown out.


I has been so for decades and decades, despite uncounted billions in aid. The country could be completely reconstructed and within a generation it would return to squalor.

And so it will be until a viable political system is set up.
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Jan 13 2010, 06:54 PM
The destruction appears to be on a scale of huge proportions. Haiti is most likely doomed to more decades of severe poverty.

The Haiti I remember doesn't even have construction codes for many of their buildings. Some areas have no streets or design. They just grow up.

Sewer, water, and basic infrastructure is horrible. I saw running sewer going down ditches in the street and people just stopping in the public and urinating. Sewer water was just released in the bay. Apparently the better sections with more modern construction and facilities also got hit hard bad.

Concrete construction has very poor quality cement mixed too thinly with little rebar in many structures. I remember going by the land-fill and seeing people living off what was thrown out.


I saw on the scroll on FOX News where the current President of Haiti, said back in 2008, he want to tear down 60% of the buildings. He said they didn't have the resources or the funds to rebuild. Looks like mother nature, did the first part of the job for him.

UPDATE: Just heard on radio, as day has turned to night, anarchy has set in.
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Jan 13 2010, 07:03 PM
UPDATE: Just heard on radio, as day has turned to night, anarchy has set in.
That could be problematic. The criminal element might attack those bringing in aid.
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Well, I wouldn't want anyone sent into anarchy.

Our out of work engineers could really help them reconstruct much better infrastructure and buildings.

Tents were good enough for me and for the ladies too, when I was in the Army. Tents can't collapse and kill you, either.

But if it's anarchy and there's no security or safety, then I wouldn't send our workers down there.

I wouldn't send money into anarchy either, though...
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Jan 13 2010, 07:41 PM
Well, I wouldn't want anyone sent into anarchy.

Our out of work engineers could really help them reconstruct much better infrastructure and buildings.

Tents were good enough for me and for the ladies too, when I was in the Army. Tents can't collapse and kill you, either.

But if it's anarchy and there's no security or safety, then I wouldn't send our workers down there.

I wouldn't send money into anarchy either, though...
Good idea, LTC, we should send our engineers and construction crews to build, we would pay for that, no money to the leadership of their country. The leaders would squander it on their own self indulged delights. The money is to support the people that live there, not the rulers there. All the money sent to the government of Haiti is squandered on themselves, kind of like here in the US. Look at the all expense vacation we just spent on a congressional delegation, to go to Copenhagen.
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I just heard on CNN the one of the only buildings standing in Haiti, is the US Embassy, what does that tell us. Does it have anything to do with construction codes?
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Yes, a US Embassy would be a tough building.
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My husband asked, "Was there any damage in Dominican Republic?"
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