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Mass Shootings at Ft Hood
Topic Started: Nov 5 2009, 03:34 PM (3,614 Views)
retiredLEO	Nov 8 2009, 11:34 AM Post #226
Posts: 2,441 Group: Members Member #371 Joined: Aug 5, 2008	Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html



cks	Nov 8 2009, 11:39 AM Post #227
Posts: 940 Group: Members Member #445 Joined: Mar 1, 2009	It is the result of the PC mentality that pervades America at the present that he was not written up for his anti-Americanism by his commanding officers after complaints by his fellow classmates. This was reported in the main page article in the NY Times this morning.



retiredLEO	Nov 8 2009, 11:43 AM Post #228
Posts: 2,441 Group: Members Member #371 Joined: Aug 5, 2008	Even FOX is pushing the mental illness side for Hasan. I just watched Dr. N.G. Berill, a forensic phsycologist, say this could have been mental illness. Why do we have to go the press in England to get the truth, this was a terrorist attack, by a terrorist. I post the video of the radical in NYC, stating that Hasan was only shooting military personell.



Mason	Nov 8 2009, 12:12 PM Post #229
Posts: 290 Group: Members Member #476 Joined: Jun 2, 2009	This is like a long line of topics and it has been coming on for years, the Government, the Media, Hollywood - they all believe the American people can't know the truth. The American people must be controlled with lies and myths.



Truth Detector	Nov 8 2009, 01:16 PM Post #230
Posts: 1,870 Group: Tier1 Member #183 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	I just finished watching the Fox Sports Sunday program being televised from Afghanistan. It was really great with many stories of heroism of our troops there. Somehow, a soldier can be shot three or four times and be ignored by the media, but some radical with an agenda goes on a rampage and he becomes the victim. I am beginning to not recognize this country any more.



Sherp	Nov 8 2009, 01:58 PM Post #231
Posts: 378 Group: Members Member #438 Joined: Feb 27, 2009	retiredLEO Nov 8 2009, 11:34 AM Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html I don't get it LEO. How can a lone gunman kill thirteen soldiers and wound thirty others with a handgun? How does that happen? Where was he shooting from in the area? How were they two police Sgts able to subdue him? I can't get the picture straight in my mind. Thanks. Edited by Sherp, Nov 8 2009, 01:58 PM.



retiredLEO	Nov 8 2009, 02:39 PM Post #232
Posts: 2,441 Group: Members Member #371 Joined: Aug 5, 2008	Sherp, I am still trying to figure out how he got so many shots off out of 2 pistols. With so many of the victims, shot more then one time, he had to reload. No one else in that center was armed, just the terrorist, that is why it had to be well planed. I believe that Fort Hood employs DOD police, which is not military police and they are considered civilians. They were the first armed persons to arrive, they were on duty, I believe a routine patrol, when they were told to respond to the shooting. The best thing was that Sgt. Munley charged the building and opened fire on the terrorist. Completely different then Va. tech shooting where all the responding officer waited outside until the shooting stopped after the shooter shot himself. This DOD sergeant had a lot more guts, then most people in that situation. She could have called for back up and waited outside, but she didn't. Quite a woman and a mother too. Edited by retiredLEO, Nov 8 2009, 02:41 PM.



Sherp	Nov 8 2009, 02:58 PM Post #233
Posts: 378 Group: Members Member #438 Joined: Feb 27, 2009	retiredLEO Nov 8 2009, 02:39 PM Sherp, I am still trying to figure out how he got so many shots off out of 2 pistols. With so many of the victims, shot more then one time, he had to reload. No one else in that center was armed, just the terrorist, that is why it had to be well planed. I believe that Fort Hood employs DOD police, which is not military police and they are considered civilians. They were the first armed persons to arrive, they were on duty, I believe a routine patrol, when they were told to respond to the shooting. The best thing was that Sgt. Munley charged the building and opened fire on the terrorist. Completely different then Va. tech shooting where all the responding officer waited outside until the shooting stopped after the shooter shot himself. This DOD sergeant had a lot more guts, then most people in that situation. She could have called for back up and waited outside, but she didn't. Quite a woman and a mother too. She is great as was the other Sgt with her. Talk about doing your duty. I think I read that Ft. Hood also had an emergency lockdown horn on a building that they sounded which I think should be standard on any Post or University. That guy at Va Tech, who not only killed two people, wandered to the Post Office and then preceeded to kill more kids without the intervention of the Coppers never was very sad. Edited by Sherp, Nov 8 2009, 03:00 PM.



cks	Nov 8 2009, 02:59 PM Post #234
Posts: 940 Group: Members Member #445 Joined: Mar 1, 2009	Sherp - I too watched the Fox Sports program. Once again the Fox network shows why it is the most watched - there is a love of country that pervades the organization. One can be critical - as Fox can be of what the government does but there is still a realization that the country and its people are a beacon for all.



retiredLEO	Nov 8 2009, 04:28 PM Post #235
Posts: 2,441 Group: Members Member #371 Joined: Aug 5, 2008	Sherp Nov 8 2009, 02:58 PM retiredLEO Nov 8 2009, 02:39 PM Sherp, I am still trying to figure out how he got so many shots off out of 2 pistols. With so many of the victims, shot more then one time, he had to reload. No one else in that center was armed, just the terrorist, that is why it had to be well planed. I believe that Fort Hood employs DOD police, which is not military police and they are considered civilians. They were the first armed persons to arrive, they were on duty, I believe a routine patrol, when they were told to respond to the shooting. The best thing was that Sgt. Munley charged the building and opened fire on the terrorist. Completely different then Va. tech shooting where all the responding officer waited outside until the shooting stopped after the shooter shot himself. This DOD sergeant had a lot more guts, then most people in that situation. She could have called for back up and waited outside, but she didn't. Quite a woman and a mother too. She is great as was the other Sgt with her. Talk about doing your duty. I think I read that Ft. Hood also had an emergency lockdown horn on a building that they sounded which I think should be standard on any Post or University. That guy at Va Tech, who not only killed two people, wandered to the Post Office and then preceeded to kill more kids without the intervention of the Coppers never was very sad. Sherp, I thought 32 were killed at Va. tech? While the police surrounded the building. Edited by retiredLEO, Nov 8 2009, 04:29 PM.



cks	Nov 8 2009, 05:28 PM Post #236
Posts: 940 Group: Members Member #445 Joined: Mar 1, 2009	MSNBC referring to the shooter as the "alleged shooter". What is up with that? Are they going to suggest that perhaps the cop that brought him down initiated the gunfire and he was only shooting in self defense? PC run amuck!



Mason	Nov 8 2009, 05:32 PM Post #237
Posts: 290 Group: Members Member #476 Joined: Jun 2, 2009	It should also be asked why the media has no problems rushing to the Hate angle and blaring it when it is a white christian that perpetrated the violence? That is the telling part, they act 180 degrees differently.



foxglove	Nov 8 2009, 05:53 PM Post #238
Posts: 776 Group: Tier1 Member #69 Joined: Apr 28, 2008	retiredLEO Nov 8 2009, 02:39 PM Sherp, I am still trying to figure out how he got so many shots off out of 2 pistols. With so many of the victims, shot more then one time, he had to reload. No one else in that center was armed, just the terrorist, that is why it had to be well planed. I believe that Fort Hood employs DOD police, which is not military police and they are considered civilians. They were the first armed persons to arrive, they were on duty, I believe a routine patrol, when they were told to respond to the shooting. The best thing was that Sgt. Munley charged the building and opened fire on the terrorist. Completely different then Va. tech shooting where all the responding officer waited outside until the shooting stopped after the shooter shot himself. This DOD sergeant had a lot more guts, then most people in that situation. She could have called for back up and waited outside, but she didn't. Quite a woman and a mother too. A spokesperson for the base who gave a press conference called it "counterintuitive" that only 2 handguns (one was semi-automatic) could produce so many bullets fired. That is why there was talk of possible 'friendly fire' that caused some of the injuries. The press conference spokesman last night said there is no evidence of friendly fire-- however, the investigation is on-going. The spokseman also said they don't know the motivation of the shooter.
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retiredLEO	Nov 8 2009, 06:06 PM Post #239
Posts: 2,441 Group: Members Member #371 Joined: Aug 5, 2008	foxglove Nov 8 2009, 05:53 PM retiredLEO Nov 8 2009, 02:39 PM Sherp, I am still trying to figure out how he got so many shots off out of 2 pistols. With so many of the victims, shot more then one time, he had to reload. No one else in that center was armed, just the terrorist, that is why it had to be well planed. I believe that Fort Hood employs DOD police, which is not military police and they are considered civilians. They were the first armed persons to arrive, they were on duty, I believe a routine patrol, when they were told to respond to the shooting. The best thing was that Sgt. Munley charged the building and opened fire on the terrorist. Completely different then Va. tech shooting where all the responding officer waited outside until the shooting stopped after the shooter shot himself. This DOD sergeant had a lot more guts, then most people in that situation. She could have called for back up and waited outside, but she didn't. Quite a woman and a mother too. A spokesperson for the base who gave a press conference called it "counterintuitive" that only 2 handguns (one was semi-automatic) could produce so many bullets fired. That is why there was talk of possible 'friendly fire' that caused some of the injuries. The press conference spokesman last night said there is no evidence of friendly fire-- however, the investigation is on-going. The spokseman also said they don't know the motivation of the shooter. foxglove, the perpertrator was a terrorist, this was well planed. How could it be friendly fire, perhaps one or two injured, but this is starting to look like a cover up to me. Hasan had mental illness, he was not a terrorist and so on from the MSN, the next thing we know Munley will be charged with assault with a deadly weapon, how disgusting. Maybe she should have just waited outside the building for the shooting to stop and wait for backup, like they did at Va. Tech. No wonder no one wants to get involved and save lives, by bringing down a terrorist. The only other people there with firearms were the two sergeants from DOD police, how many people do these wacko generals think they shot, when their target was Hasan? I don't even know if the second sergeant even fired his weapon? Why don't we just get the broom out, pick up the rug and sweep this all away, it never happened, Hasan is just a victim of the Army and if that is the case, who put him there? Edited by retiredLEO, Nov 8 2009, 06:09 PM.



chatham	Nov 8 2009, 06:07 PM Post #240
Posts: 2,792 Group: Tier1 Member #308 Joined: May 2, 2008	I know the motivation of the shooter. It was to kill as many American soldiers and civilians as possible.



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