| Obama Is In Default -- Eligibility Case Will Be Heard; Where is birth certificate | |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 15 2009, 03:22 PM Post #31 |
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Looks to me like people are jumping through hoops to protect Obama's back. I never thought that this country, my country would come to this low. This all comes back to is Obama a US citizen. I had to renew my license this year and had to have a birth certificate, not a copy, but a certified one. Obama doesn't need one to be POTUS, should tell us all something. |
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| Acc Esq | Jul 15 2009, 03:33 PM Post #32 |
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I went on PACER to seek some insight on the efficacy and reliability of the Yahoo/Obamafile story. There is some corroboration, albeit incomplete at this point. The docket indicates that there was a hearing set on 7/13, sua sponte by Judge Carter, to consider service and default issues. That is the context of the Yahoo story, its comments and the Obamafile summary. Unfortunately, there are no minutes of that hearing (yet) and no indication of any transcript or order, which would be the ultimate verification. Judge Carter is indeed a former Marine officer and he saw combat at Khe Sahn. He is a Clinton appointee; double UCLA Bruin. There is enough corroboration to the story to make the blanks it fills in plausible and to justify continued monitoring |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 15 2009, 03:46 PM Post #33 |
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We may monitor it, but will the MSN monitor it? They really haven't touched on it. I usually watch GB and he usually tracks down topics like this, he won't even go near it. It seems that anyone who attempts to question Obama's eligibility, they get harassed, fired or what ever the government deems necessary to make you compliant. What country in history does this remind you of? |
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| Acc Esq | Jul 15 2009, 04:20 PM Post #34 |
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Formal court orders, transcripts and documents cannot be completely ignored. Right now, there is a healthy degree of skepticism of anything that is attributable to Obamafile as a source. That is the rationalization for the noncoverage. If and when this judge starts making rulings and pronouncements and entering orders, it will be impossible to suppress the story. Even if it starts with Drudge or the Enquirer or the Telegraph. I guess what I am trying to say is that if there is really a story here, it will break. So far there is a lot of smoke, inference, innuendo and hearsay and the story will be very incendiary if not revolutionary and is extremely unpopular with MSM. If it gets traction, it simply cannot be ignored. |
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| brittany | Jul 15 2009, 04:45 PM Post #35 |
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The issue is whether he is"natural born". |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 15 2009, 05:29 PM Post #36 |
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If the story turns out to be true, it may be too late to save the Union. All will be in place, by the time anyone does anything. |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 15 2009, 05:34 PM Post #37 |
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My point Brit, is if Obama was born in Kenya and therefore was not a natural born US citizen, then he was an alien when he finally arrived in Hawaii. If that is the case, he never became a citizen, he was an immigrant, he never passed any citizenship test and never even applied to be a citizen. Where are his passport documents from the 1980s when he supposedly traveled to Kenya and other countries. Was it a US Passport? |
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| Lodge Pro 345 | Jul 15 2009, 05:41 PM Post #38 |
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. The Reality is - even if they found he isn't a U.S. Citizen - they would not displace the first black President of the United States. Race trumps everything with Obama, race trumps everything in politics period. Just like the Federal Election Commission decided they would not audit Obama - even though he shattered every fund raising record known to man three times over, even though there were obvious and known problems, including credit card fraud. They didn't even hesitate to tell the Obama administration they didn't need to hold all that money in escrow for the audit. The AP and other news outlets cited sources saying it would be problematic to take action in light in the historic election. . |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 15 2009, 06:07 PM Post #39 |
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You are probably right and that is very disappointing. I can only hope, you are wrong. |
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| Tom E | Jul 15 2009, 06:39 PM Post #40 |
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Dear Lodge Pro; who are they? They; are we as you are we as we are all together! See how they run like Hail Obama Tom E. |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 15 2009, 06:48 PM Post #41 |
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Good point Tom, who are "they". I remember when I was in the Marines, my sergeant would always say "they want you to clean the head" or they want you to this and that. It was never they it was the sergeant. So when I told some group to clean the head, and they asked, I would say me, I am your platoon sergeant and I am ordering you to do it. I forgot Hail Obama, the savior of our time.
Edited by retiredLEO, Jul 15 2009, 06:50 PM.
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| LTC8K6 | Jul 16 2009, 12:15 PM Post #42 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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This is very spooky. Cook's case was dismissed because he has not been ordered to go to Afghanistan!!! So now you know why his orders were revoked!!! Very strange and quite suspicious to me. |
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| LTC8K6 | Jul 16 2009, 12:18 PM Post #43 |
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Assistant to The Devil Himself
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A federal judge this morning dismissed the suit filed here by a U.S. Army reservist who says he shouldn't have to go to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama was never eligible to be president. Judge Clay Land sided with the defense, which claimed in its response to Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook's suit, filed July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, that Cook’s suit is “moot” in that he already has been told he doesn’t have to go to Afghanistan, so the relief he is seeking has been granted. "Federal court only has authority of actual cases and controversies," Land said. "The entire action is dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction." http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/292/story/779031.html |
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| Lodge Pro 345 | Jul 16 2009, 01:18 PM Post #44 |
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. The Judge got in line quick. This doesn't clear things up - but only looks like coordination to see that the case wasn't heard and the Gov't wouldn't have to defend Obama's citizenship. However, I still contend that our Gov't and it's institutions would take zero action if they had admissions from Obama that he wasn't a citizen. . |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 16 2009, 08:24 PM Post #45 |
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He got the order, but they were recinded. Now we have 2 orders, kink of like "A Few Good Men", why the 2 orders? Maybe because Obama saw "Code Red" written all over his order and this suit. What ever happened to Judge Carter, the first Judge on this? This is really looking like the administration is searching for judges that support the O.
Edited by retiredLEO, Jul 16 2009, 08:27 PM.
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