| Obama Is In Default -- Eligibility Case Will Be Heard; Where is birth certificate | |
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| Concerned | Jul 26 2009, 06:07 PM Post #211 |
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I agree. I don't think Obama looks anything like his mother or his Kenyan father. |
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| comelately | Jul 26 2009, 06:28 PM Post #212 |
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I can think of parallels (Hindenburg and Hitler, for example), but I don't think it happened this time. Timidity and stupidity - sure; a conspiracy - nah!
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| retiredLEO | Jul 26 2009, 06:45 PM Post #213 |
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I am not saying the McCain Campaign joined anything, I just want to know why it took so long to make a statement. Phil Berg filed complaint, before the election. After Obama won, why didn't they come out then, McCain lost. I am just saying a little arm twisting by the WH, would not be out of the question, and who do they report this to "politco"? I just know I have had my arms twisted and didn't like it, but I stood firm. I mean Obama invites two people to the White House to have a beer. He summons the CBO head to the WH. Couldn't he also invite the Hawaii official who saw the original birth certificate to the WH, who could bring the original birth certificate and show the world he was born in Hawaii. After all it is supposedly his birth certificate and he is the POTUS. Like others here what is he hiding? |
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| genny6348 | Jul 26 2009, 07:42 PM Post #214 |
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Genny6348
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(speculating again) And wouldn't that explain the need to keep this X son a secret and groom him to become the Manchurian Candidate that he has become? He's obviously no genius in his own right. The trail we do know about is littered with secrecy and help from people from all over the place - one rumor has it some Arab helped pay for his education. What normal kid plucked from obscurity gets international assistance like that out of the blue? Travels to Pakistan at a time when it was forbidden for US citizens to travel there? It just gets curiouser and curiouser. The facts about his past have been erased. The books that he supposedly wrote are the only documented (if you want to call it documentation or contrived fiction) proof of his past except for a couple of pieces that were missed from the scrubbing. Truth is often stranger than fiction, I'm afraid. At this point I think anything is possible no matter how seemingly absurd. IMO the McCain campaign had no intention of winning - I never saw a candidate so disinterested in winning an election. If it weren't for Sarah Palin he would have lost in a monumental landslide. I don't think it's a stretch to think he had a hand in softening the road for his opponent, purposefully or not. A nod here a wink there, a vetting process that was just adequate and not convincing - easier to accept things at face value rather than rock the boat. The only thing that will explain it all is releasing all the missing documents and letting the public judge for themselves what they mean. I'm not willing to believe what any politician has to say, Dem or Rep, without seeing the goods myself. That's the only way to put an end to it is to open the files.
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| retiredLEO | Jul 26 2009, 07:43 PM Post #215 |
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From Obama file, what is Hawaii hiding? CNN Boss Leans On Lou Dobbs CNN/U.S. president Jon Klein sent an email to a handful of "Lou Dobbs Tonight" staffers last night regarding the coverage of the so-called Birthers and the validity of Obama's eligibility. In part, Klein writes, "It seems this story is dead -- because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef." Klein asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn't produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Obama's original birth certificate. If Klein's statement is true, then this official statement, dated October 31, 2008, from state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino is false: "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." If what Klein says is true, Fukino is lying. If what Fukino says is true, Klein is lying. It's one or the other, isn't it? Klein may be the king of the dung heap at CNN, but this story is far from dead. The simple fact, that Klein, Chris Matthews, Brian Williams, John Stewart and even The New York Times, are addressing the eligibility issue on a daily basis now is clear evidence that the eligibility question is never, ever, going to go away. It will dog Obama until he goes back to Chicago -- or releases his bona fides. The Times writes, "Advocates of the issue, who are sometimes called Birthers, have succeeded in calling attention to themselves through frequent calls to talk radio shows, e-mail messages to news organizations and a videotaped question at a Congressional town hall. The Associated Press said that Obama’s citizenship status had been one of the most popular topics for the wire service’s 'Ask AP' column." A few months ago, Birthers numbered in the hundreds. Now, they number in the millions. Millions of Americans are demanding -- "Obama, show us the birth certificate" "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi We are currently at Ghandi's stage three. |
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| wayne fontes | Jul 26 2009, 08:32 PM Post #216 |
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You are assuming things will move forward. Personally I'm still laughing at Troofers. Every chance I get! |
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| genny6348 | Jul 26 2009, 08:46 PM Post #217 |
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And you are equating the two issues? interesting. |
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| brittany | Jul 26 2009, 08:55 PM Post #218 |
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He does look like MalcomX. Obama has his mother's long chin. |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 26 2009, 09:07 PM Post #219 |
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He almost has the same diction, as Malcome X or even calipso louie. |
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| wayne fontes | Jul 26 2009, 09:10 PM Post #220 |
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Yes I'm equating the two issues. When one of the leaders of the movement is a Troofer it's a reasonable thing to do. The movement seems to be operating from the same play book if the Mike Castle town hall proves to be a pattern. Both offer multiple theories sans any positive proof and have an amazing ability to ignore any proof that doesn't fit their theory. |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 26 2009, 09:10 PM Post #221 |
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Are you laughing at everyone here that wants to see a birth certificate. I don't laugh at the 9-11 conspirisy crowd, I just disagree with them. I do like to hear their theories though, like fire cannot melt steel. |
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| retiredLEO | Jul 26 2009, 09:16 PM Post #222 |
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All we want is proof he was born here, we shouldn't have to prove anything. When I bacame a police officer I needed a birth certificate, to prove I was a US citizen and proof that I lived in the state where I was going to work. That was even bofore I could even take a test, get an interview or be hired. Who in the federal government is suppose to check the birth certificates of any candidate for POTUS? Edited by retiredLEO, Jul 26 2009, 09:18 PM.
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| wayne fontes | Jul 26 2009, 09:22 PM Post #223 |
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I don't understand the need you have to go down this path but that doesn't mean I have to tolerate your lack of logic. Perhaps to save the country the headache of a second Troofer movement Obama should produce his birth certificate. He could get Geraldo Rivera to host a show where they go in to the Hawiian archives and open his file on live TV!
Edited by Lodge Pro 345, Jul 26 2009, 09:26 PM.
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| Lodge Pro 345 | Jul 26 2009, 09:24 PM Post #224 |
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. Let's just disagree nicely. . |
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| genny6348 | Jul 26 2009, 09:25 PM Post #225 |
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Genny6348
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I just want to see the paper trail of the man's life. If you choose to mock serious people asking for traditionally available information about a President of the US, then go ahead have at it, if it makes you feel better. I think it's telling that you choose to find these two issues equivalent. I don't. Guess we disagree. |
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