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Michael Jackson Memorial; 1958-2009
Topic Started: Jul 7 2009, 12:49 PM (530 Views)
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I read on line that the city of Los Angeles is now suggesting that taxpayers volunteer to give a donation to help the city pay their approximate $4,000,000 costs of this production.

Yes, there was a young performer from Britian's Got Talent who sang. There was no sign that this was anything more than just another promotional by Joe Jackson, including the gold plated casket. Tacky as you would expect with Al and Jesse pretending to be men of the cloth.
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Jul 8 2009, 12:46 PM
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I saw 30 seconds.. I thought it had an American Idol feel.

I thought that Simon guy was going to come on next.

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I thought it was obscene. MSNBC went back to partial news last night but CNN stayed with MJ. Anderson Cooper should have walked after the first hour. What will Willie Nelson get? 3 minutes on CNN and nothing on MSNBC?

I missed my Sanford fix just when I thought there would be a new interview every day. I had a list of horrifically intimate questions which I was sure he would answer in explicit detail if only an interviewer would ask, but no one ever did. Now, that's what would have been serious news, lost forever.
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Jul 8 2009, 12:59 PM
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Jul 8 2009, 12:46 PM
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I saw 30 seconds.. I thought it had an American Idol feel.

I thought that Simon guy was going to come on next.

.
I thought it was obscene. MSNBC went back to partial news last night but CNN stayed with MJ. Anderson Cooper should have walked after the first hour. What will Willie Nelson get? 3 minutes on CNN and nothing on MSNBC?

I missed my Sanford fix just when I thought there would be a new interview every day. I had a list of horrifically intimate questions which I was sure he would answer in explicit detail if only an interviewer would ask, but no one ever did. Now, that's what would have been serious news, lost forever.
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Did Willie Nelson die Payback?

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Edited to add: Ok, he's only an example. I thought I might have missed another obit.

Sorry.
Edited by Lodge Pro 345, Jul 8 2009, 01:04 PM.
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As an amateur historian of the news media and student of human communications, I have a couple of thoughts here.

I suggest the phenomenon of coverage of MJ's death is not something new. People have always been drawn to celebrity tragedy since whenever. Our grandparents were fixated by the Lindbergh baby kidnapping and murder. Radio was a new thing at the time and the use of it for reporting the event actually helped the medium gain acceptability - sort of like Twitter was used to report the Iranian riots.

And second, the cable and broadcast nets would not have reported this story to the extent they did if no one was watching. Myself, I didn't watch any of it.

But a whole lot of other folks were.
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Jul 8 2009, 01:08 PM
As an amateur historian of the news media and student of human communications, I have a couple of thoughts here.

I suggest the phenomenon of coverage of MJ's death is not something new. People have always been drawn to celebrity tragedy since whenever. Our grandparents were fixated by the Lindbergh baby kidnapping and murder. Radio was a new thing at the time and the use of it for reporting the event actually helped the medium gain acceptability - sort of like Twitter was used to report the Iranian riots.

And second, the cable and broadcast nets would not have reported this story to the extent they did if no one was watching. Myself, I didn't watch any of it.

But a whole lot of other folks were.
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Okay. But, my Mother, Father, and Grandmother used to tell me that those people were only people and they aren't what's important in life.

Is that the case today?

Does the Myspace/Gang symbol/MTV generation ever get that message?

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Jul 8 2009, 12:59 PM
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Jul 8 2009, 12:46 PM
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I saw 30 seconds.. I thought it had an American Idol feel.

I thought that Simon guy was going to come on next.

.
I thought it was obscene. MSNBC went back to partial news last night but CNN stayed with MJ. Anderson Cooper should have walked after the first hour. What will Willie Nelson get? 3 minutes on CNN and nothing on MSNBC?

I missed my Sanford fix just when I thought there would be a new interview every day. I had a list of horrifically intimate questions which I was sure he would answer in explicit detail if only an interviewer would ask, but no one ever did. Now, that's what would have been serious news, lost forever.
:SarC:
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Did Willie Nelson die Payback?

:confus:

Edited to add: Ok, he's only an example. I thought I might have missed another obit.

Sorry.
Sorry for not being clear. I got to hold his hand last year for 7 seconds. Lordy, he squats onstage a minute at a time when he is signing autographs and then gets up without putting a hand on the floor to push. Maybe 5 minutes on CNN, when he dies.
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Jul 8 2009, 01:36 PM
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Jul 8 2009, 01:02 PM
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Jul 8 2009, 12:46 PM
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I saw 30 seconds.. I thought it had an American Idol feel.

I thought that Simon guy was going to come on next.

.
I thought it was obscene. MSNBC went back to partial news last night but CNN stayed with MJ. Anderson Cooper should have walked after the first hour. What will Willie Nelson get? 3 minutes on CNN and nothing on MSNBC?

I missed my Sanford fix just when I thought there would be a new interview every day. I had a list of horrifically intimate questions which I was sure he would answer in explicit detail if only an interviewer would ask, but no one ever did. Now, that's what would have been serious news, lost forever.
:SarC:
.
Did Willie Nelson die Payback?

:confus:

Edited to add: Ok, he's only an example. I thought I might have missed another obit.

Sorry.
Sorry for not being clear. I got to hold his hand last year for 7 seconds. Lordy, he squats onstage a minute at a time when he is signing autographs and then gets up without putting a hand on the floor to push. Maybe 5 minutes on CNN, when he dies.
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Well then you gotta watch this Duke LAX Video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuskEzQVRCk&feature=channel_page


:uhoh:
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Jul 8 2009, 01:44 PM
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Jul 8 2009, 01:36 PM
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Jul 8 2009, 01:02 PM
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Jul 8 2009, 12:59 PM
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Jul 8 2009, 12:46 PM
.
I saw 30 seconds.. I thought it had an American Idol feel.

I thought that Simon guy was going to come on next.

.
I thought it was obscene. MSNBC went back to partial news last night but CNN stayed with MJ. Anderson Cooper should have walked after the first hour. What will Willie Nelson get? 3 minutes on CNN and nothing on MSNBC?

I missed my Sanford fix just when I thought there would be a new interview every day. I had a list of horrifically intimate questions which I was sure he would answer in explicit detail if only an interviewer would ask, but no one ever did. Now, that's what would have been serious news, lost forever.
:SarC:
.
Did Willie Nelson die Payback?

:confus:

Edited to add: Ok, he's only an example. I thought I might have missed another obit.

Sorry.
Sorry for not being clear. I got to hold his hand last year for 7 seconds. Lordy, he squats onstage a minute at a time when he is signing autographs and then gets up without putting a hand on the floor to push. Maybe 5 minutes on CNN, when he dies.
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Well then you gotta watch this Duke LAX Video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuskEzQVRCk&feature=channel_page


:uhoh:
Thanks for the link to the video. One thing, though--those old guys in the saloon in the black and white picture look a whole lot like they belong in Eno Commons, don't they?
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Jul 8 2009, 12:46 PM
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I saw 30 seconds.. I thought it had an American Idol feel.

I thought that Simon guy was going to come on next.

.
I thought it was obscene. MSNBC went back to partial news last night but CNN stayed with MJ. Anderson Cooper should have walked after the first hour. What will Willie Nelson get? 3 minutes on CNN and nothing on MSNBC?

I missed my Sanford fix just when I thought there would be a new interview every day. I had a list of horrifically intimate questions which I was sure he would answer in explicit detail if only an interviewer would ask, but no one ever did. Now, that's what would have been serious news, lost forever.
:SarC:
Sanford must be thrilled.Took him out of the news.
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I refused to watch. Just saw the clip of Brook Shield babbling.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N_VayaoqrE

I thought Jennifer Hudson's performance was poignant. 8 months pregnant.
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Michael Jackson and The Gorp Syndrome

I lived outside of the US for many years and it was an excellent way to get a fresh perspective on the country. One phenomenon I observed from afar that I’d never noticed up close was what I came to call The Gorp Syndrome. It works like this. Private minds create a useful product to meet their needs: like Gorp, or trail mix, a blend of raisins and nuts made by campers to deliver a natural and healthy blast of energy during a hike in the woods. Some smart company gets the idea to package and sell the product. After the product reaches its full customer base of, say, hikers and health-minded snackers, the company seeks to expand the product’s appeal while maintaining its identity. So they add carob or yogurt covered raisins: sweeter, so more people will buy it, but still arguably “natural,” and “healthy,” although now with quotation marks. Then someone at the company says, well, hey, if people like sweet stuff so much, why not add something really sweet like, say, M & M’s? So ultimately Gorp, while weirdly retaining some completely undeserved aura of healthiness, is transformed into sugary garbage.

Thus rice cakes become caramel rice cakes and Broadway theater becomes The Little Mermaid and journalism becomes in-depth reporting on every other dead blond and Marilyn Monroe becomes Madonna - and an entertainment icon becomes Michael Jackson. Hey, a free and democratic market is a beautiful thing but, without a commitment to values, it has a way of transforming creations of use, beauty and substance into ultra-saleable crap. What can I tell you? Everything has its downside.

Michael Jackson was a good dancer and sang pretty songs and changed nothing and represented nothing and meant nothing. Leave aside the alleged fondling or whatever it was – a man can be a creative genius and a monster too. But when you think of pop music greats like Louis Armstrong or Sinatra or Elvis or the Beatles, you can see how they stood at the crossroads between the musical era that created them and the era they helped to create. This is an era of pop junk mostly and Jackson, at best, contributed by helping to expand the reach of the music video. Well done, I guess - but, really, so what?

I lived in England when Princess Diana died and I was there for the upsurge of maudlin anguish over the death of that similarly tawdry and self-destructive figure. I thought she was ultimately meaningless as a personage—though not, of course, as a person—but that the paroxysm of helpless grief marked the emergence, or possibly rebirth, of a dangerously sentimental and dishonest method of experiencing the world. Not coincidentally, it came just at the beginning of the Prime Ministry of Tony Blair, which gutted the nation’s Thatcherite prosperity and self-esteem in the name of a sentimental and dishonest vision of what government can achieve.

And not coincidentally, this current outpouring over Jackson comes at the beginning of the Obama administration… But then, when one remembers that we once had presidents like Washington, Lincoln and Reagan, Obama may be seen as the presidential version of The Gorp Syndrome himself.

http://pajamasmedia.com/andrewklavan/2009/07/08/michael-jackson-and-the-gorp-syndrome/

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Thanks Mike, that was right on the mark.
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