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The Mexican Swine Flu Epidemic
Topic Started: Apr 25 2009, 08:51 AM (5,070 Views)
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brittany
Apr 30 2009, 05:20 PM
I don't believe that wiping the cup thing. It's gross.
I've been practicing intinction when I take Communion in the Episcopal Church ever since the seventies when there was a flu epidemic in D.C. and I was living there. I always thought intinction was safer, so I'm surprised by this. At my church, we use a very, very small chalice for those who choose intinction. Now, I don't know what I'll do.
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chatham
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<y grandmother died from the 1918 flu. My mother got sick and the treatment was to give whiskey to the sick. My mom was like 4 years old then and drinking whiskey. But she survived the flu.
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chatham
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http://healthmap.org/en

Interesting site: global disease alert map
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Chatham, I have an interesting coincidence for you. My mother's mother also died in the 1918 flu epidemic--when my mother was 4 years old. Mother has never said anything about a whiskey cure, though.
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sceptical

Most of the people who died in the 1918 outbreak died as a result of secondary bacterial pneumonia. There were no antibiotics then, and pneumoccocal pneumonia was frequently fatal.
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Just got a call from my sister. Her's son's elementary school has a case of the swine flu and they are shutting down the school. It is an ESL school (English as a second language).

Luckily, there was flooding this week and my sister kept my nephew home.

My friend is a school nurse and she said they are having to report ANY sick child or teacher.
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I'mstillaRebel
Apr 30 2009, 08:53 PM
Chatham, I have an interesting coincidence for you. My mother's mother also died in the 1918 flu epidemic--when my mother was 4 years old. Mother has never said anything about a whiskey cure, though.
It works pretty well - though I prefer rum (against human viruses), brandy (against the chicken variety), and schnapps (against the pig ones). Repeat as needed. :cher:
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I have letters between my grandmother and my great grandmother where they keep mentioning how bad the influenza is.
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brittany

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Apr 30 2009, 08:07 PM
brittany
Apr 30 2009, 05:20 PM
I don't believe that wiping the cup thing. It's gross.
I've been practicing intinction when I take Communion in the Episcopal Church ever since the seventies when there was a flu epidemic in D.C. and I was living there. I always thought intinction was safer, so I'm surprised by this. At my church, we use a very, very small chalice for those who choose intinction. Now, I don't know what I'll do.
What is intinction?
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sceptical
Apr 30 2009, 09:23 PM
Most of the people who died in the 1918 outbreak died as a result of secondary bacterial pneumonia. There were no antibiotics then, and pneumoccocal pneumonia was frequently fatal.
I read that the first outbreak oft he flu in the US was March of 1918 in Queens,NY.Interesting that the swine in NY was once again at a school in Queens,St.Francis Prep.
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The finger pointing begins.

AP: Mexico's epidemiology boss faults WHO

MEXICO CITY (AP) - Mexico's chief epidemiologist accused the World Health Organization of being slow to respond to the country's warning about a health crisis that turned into a global swine flu scare and called for an investigation.

Dr. Miguel Angel Lezana told The Associated Press late Thursday his center alerted the Pan American Health Organization on April 16 about alarming occurrences of flu and atypical pneumonia in Mexico. But no action was taken until eight days later when the World Health Organization said it was "very, very concerned" the outbreak could grow into a pandemic.

"It seems it should have been more immediate," Lezana, director of the National Epidemiology Center, told AP in a telephone interview.

A WHO spokesman said Friday the health body was not informed until April 24 that there was a new flu strain when it learned of the new virus from U.S. authorities. He said the the organization then responded rapidly... snipped
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090501/D97TCOO00.html


economic ramifications

Veratect Mexico, Cancun: Tourism industry in "acute crisis" due to international flight cancellations. Hotel occupancy drops 27% in past week.
about 1 hour ago from web
https://twitter.com/Veratect


Who knows maybe Cancun will named it modern sewer Treatment facility the "Joe Biden!"
Edited by Baldo, May 1 2009, 11:24 AM.
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chatham
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I'mstillaRebel
Apr 30 2009, 08:53 PM
Chatham, I have an interesting coincidence for you. My mother's mother also died in the 1918 flu epidemic--when my mother was 4 years old. Mother has never said anything about a whiskey cure, though.
Well, Mom was Irish and I am sure that is what was prescribed for the Irish kids back then. Mom said she hated it, made her sleep all the time. However, I am real glad she survived. My relatives were also in New York city back then in 1918, Mom was born in the Bronx near the White Stone bridge. I think the flu back then was also a cross of the avian and swine varieties of flu.
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brittany
May 1 2009, 08:18 AM
Texas Mom
Apr 30 2009, 08:07 PM
brittany
Apr 30 2009, 05:20 PM
I don't believe that wiping the cup thing. It's gross.
I've been practicing intinction when I take Communion in the Episcopal Church ever since the seventies when there was a flu epidemic in D.C. and I was living there. I always thought intinction was safer, so I'm surprised by this. At my church, we use a very, very small chalice for those who choose intinction. Now, I don't know what I'll do.
What is intinction?
Dipping the host into the wine.
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Juarez has shut down, just like the rest of Mexico. People there are taking off their masks and crossing over into El Paso to "play and shop." A few Congressmen proposed closing the border. Does Napolitano know about this - or care?

http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_12268354

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It appears that many Juárez residents are using the time off to visit El Paso.

Customs and Border Protection officials said that anecdotally, they've seen an increase in northbound traffic at the El Paso international bridges this week compared with last week.

"The business owners near the bridges in South El Paso tell me a lot of people from Juárez are coming over to El Paso, although not necessarily to shop," said Alonso Flores, operations director at the El Paso Central Business Association. "They feel safe here, and they can take off the (medical) masks. They're not allowed to mill around over there, so they're coming here to do that, hang out."

Two Juárez sisters, Manuela and Gabina Quintana, crossed the border Thursday to do some shopping.

"We came over to buy some things in El Paso we needed," Manuela Quintana said. "We both think they went too far in Juárez with closing everything. As it is, the economy is not doing great, and I feel sorry for the workers who will lose income by not working, such as the waiters."

Gabina Quintana said she's worried because rumors keep circulating that the U.S. government is going to close the border. "No one can prevent viruses from traveling over the air," she said, "so that wouldn't do any good."


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U.S. Human Cases of H1N1 Flu Infection

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/index.htm

(As of May 1, 2009, 11:00 AM ET)
States # of laboratory confirmed cases Deaths
Arizona 4
California 13
Colorado 2
Delaware 4
Illinois 3
Indiana 3
Kansas 2
Kentucky 1
Massachusetts 2
Michigan 2
Minnesota 1
Nebraska 1
Nevada 1
New Jersey 5
New York 50
Ohio 1
South Carolina 16
Texas 28 1
Virginia 2
TOTAL COUNTS 141 cases 1 death

Note: This probably underestimates the number of cases at least ten-fold because there are a lot people with influenza whose tests have not yet been confirmed as being H1N1 swine flu.

For example, the CDC lists 3 cases in Illinois but the Illinois Department of Public Health has an additional 51 cases reported and awaiting confirmation:

Illinois Cases of H1N1 Flu
(As of May 1, 2009, 10 a.m.. CT)
City or County
# of Probable Cases
# of Confirmed Cases Total
Chicago 15 2 17
Cook 11 - 11
DuPage 11 1 12
Kane 8 - 8
Kendall 1 - 1
Lake 1 - 1
McHenry 1 - 1
Will 3 - 3
Total 51* 3 54
*Case definitions may change as the result of additional information obtained through case investigations.

A confirmed case is defined as a person with an acute febrile respiratory illness with laboratory confirmed infection

A probable case is defined as a person with an acute febrile respiratory illness who is positive for influenza A, but negative for H1 and H3


Edited by sceptical, May 1 2009, 12:27 PM.
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