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Alumni giving plunges; hat tip: John in Carolina,"Fact Checker"
Topic Started: Feb 5 2009, 10:06 PM (684 Views)
Quasimodo

An article in the Chronicle
http://www.dukechronicle.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticle&ustory_id=e163bed5-7b78-4802-b976-9260c5286a1c
Donations down 20% in FY 2009
Recession likely cause behind drop in giving
By: Julia Love
Issue date: 2/3/09 Section: News
Last update: 2/3/09 at 5:20 AM EST


brought forth some comments (hat tip to John in Carolina)
http://johninnorthcarolina.blogspot.com/

which may shed a little light on what is happening with donations.

According to poster "Fact Checker", Duke's alumni seem to be disenchanted with something...

http://www.dukechronicle.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&ustory_id=e163bed5-7b78-4802-b976-9260c5286a1c


FACT CHECKER :


[The] Brodhead administration is blaming the world wide financial meltdown for the crumbling of donations [when in fact] this trend was setting in well before the meltdown and has more to do with the way alumni perceive of the leadership of this school than Wall Street.

Examples:

-- in the last two fiscal years, starting way back on July 1, 2006 and ending June 30 2008 (in other words ALL before the financial meltdown which dates from July 1, 2008) the Annual Fund failed to reach its self-set, low-balled goal for the first and second times in decades. Neither of these totals was disclosed.

-- in the last fiscal year, the Annual Fund failed to raise more money than in the previous year -- this for the first time in its modern history. This still has not been disclosed.

-- the 10 classes holding 5 year reunions last year (Class of 1958, 1963, 1968 etc. ) failed miserably in fund raising. Only 4 of ten classes reached benchmarks which were low-balled. And not one class contributed a record breaking amount. (See Honor Roll of Donors, Duke Reunions, 2008)

-- In the Financial Aid Initiative, Brodhead and Friends blamed the worldwide financial meltdown for a shaky finish. Chase down the figures and you will see that after an initial surge, the effort languished for three years.

(snip)

[All] the Annual Fund and alumni donation figures -- and the Financial Aid Initiative -- are being reported by the Brodhead minions as PLEDGES; the annual total of donations as listed in the Chronicle today is for money actually received. Big difference when you want to stretch your results!

(snip)


Kudos to Fact Checker for helping dissipate the smoke and mirrors figures put out by the Admin.
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60slib

I definitely found Fact Checker's comment more informative than the article and then of course there was this in the comment thread...

Boo Hoo Hoo
posted 2/03/09 @ 11:48 PM EST

"Brodhead got rid of that clown of a lacrosse coach.

He allowed the program to move forward.

What do the Lacrosse Pigs do?

They SUE Duke ! ! !

For What ?

Do you think a University President should
allow himself to strong-armed by a bunch of
arrogant vindictive parents into thwarting due process?

It was real nice of Duke to allow the lacrosse pig
lawyers to quietly change the testimony of the primary
physician attending the Victim.

Duke saved your lacrosse pigs' butts
and most of you will never realize it. "

**********

Anytime my interest or ire decreases even a little, I can go to the Chronicle and find comments like that to get me fired up all over again. Who are these people? What is wrong with them? How can they think this helps Brodhead or Duke or anyone?

I'm sure they don't care if it really ticks off some little old woman in Texas but if they want everyone to just forget about it, I don't think this is really helpful.

Who knows, there could even be someone who might actually donate to Duke who gets as offended, as I do, by the Brodhead defenders.

I'd feel sorry for them if they were just stupid, but they're stupid and mean.
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MikeZPU

60slib
Feb 5 2009, 11:21 PM
I definitely found Fact Checker's comment more informative than the article and then of course there was this in the comment thread...

Boo Hoo Hoo
posted 2/03/09 @ 11:48 PM EST

"Brodhead got rid of that clown of a lacrosse coach.

He allowed the program to move forward.

What do the Lacrosse Pigs do?

They SUE Duke ! ! !

For What ?

Do you think a University President should
allow himself to strong-armed by a bunch of
arrogant vindictive parents into thwarting due process?

It was real nice of Duke to allow the lacrosse pig
lawyers to quietly change the testimony of the primary
physician attending the Victim.

Duke saved your lacrosse pigs' butts
and most of you will never realize it. "

**********

This person requires serious psychiatric help --
talk about delusional -- BUT instead this
person is probably celebrated on Duke's campus
for having the courage to speak "the truth."
Edited by MikeZPU, Feb 6 2009, 12:25 AM.
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Baldo
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It was real nice of Duke to allow the lacrosse pig lawyers to quietly change the testimony of the primary physician attending the Victim.

Well that's a novel approach to lying since Nifong never talked with Manly. In fact I don't know if Manly ever gave any sworn testimony except to be interviewed by the defense attorneys.

You can tell the desperation in these fools. Who know who posted that, probably People for the Ethical Treament of Nifong -PETN
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MikeZPU

60slib
Feb 5 2009, 11:21 PM
I definitely found Fact Checker's comment more informative than the article and then of course there was this in the comment thread...

Boo Hoo Hoo
posted 2/03/09 @ 11:48 PM EST

"Brodhead got rid of that clown of a lacrosse coach.

He allowed the program to move forward.

What do the Lacrosse Pigs do?

They SUE Duke ! ! !

For What ?

Do you think a University President should
allow himself to strong-armed by a bunch of
arrogant vindictive parents into thwarting due process?

It was real nice of Duke to allow the lacrosse pig
lawyers to quietly change the testimony of the primary
physician attending the Victim.

Duke saved your lacrosse pigs' butts
and most of you will never realize it. "

**********
My question is: who quietly worked to change the
"testimony" of the "victim" from all that ejaculation in
the mouth and genital areas, to can't remember if there
was penetration, to what she had claimed all along was
penetration by a broomstick.
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Kerri P.
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60slib
Feb 5 2009, 11:21 PM
I definitely found Fact Checker's comment more informative than the article and then of course there was this in the comment thread...

Boo Hoo Hoo
posted 2/03/09 @ 11:48 PM EST

"Brodhead got rid of that clown of a lacrosse coach.

He allowed the program to move forward.

What do the Lacrosse Pigs do?

They SUE Duke ! ! !

For What ?

Do you think a University President should
allow himself to strong-armed by a bunch of
arrogant vindictive parents into thwarting due process?

It was real nice of Duke to allow the lacrosse pig
lawyers to quietly change the testimony of the primary
physician attending the Victim.

Duke saved your lacrosse pigs' butts
and most of you will never realize it. "

**********

Everytime I read something like this it gets me angry & makes my blood boil all over agian. I don't understand way some people still want the lax players in prision? This is just beyond belief.
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chatham
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I find that type of debate rather amusing. The important consequence of this type of silly debate in the chronicle is it turns off a person who is looking for some intelligence coming out of Duke. Lacking that semblance of intelligence makes this university look rather non-ivy; something brodhead promised duke would approach. But I also believe that Duke has belabored the issues even further by suing its own insurance company. That would indicate to me, as well as other donors, that Duke is in dyer need of funds to support defending the civil suits. Between the economy and the suits, this administration and BOT has placed Duke firmly between a rock and a hard place for the observable future. Why should donors give money to an organization that is defending itself against something that could have been avoided with a simple apology.
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brittany

It precisely why some of us are still around.
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Clowns
Feb 6 2009, 06:58 AM
60slib
Feb 5 2009, 11:21 PM
I definitely found Fact Checker's comment more informative than the article and then of course there was this in the comment thread...

Boo Hoo Hoo
posted 2/03/09 @ 11:48 PM EST

"Brodhead got rid of that clown of a lacrosse coach.

He allowed the program to move forward.

What do the Lacrosse Pigs do?

They SUE Duke ! ! !

For What ?

Do you think a University President should
allow himself to strong-armed by a bunch of
arrogant vindictive parents into thwarting due process?

It was real nice of Duke to allow the lacrosse pig
lawyers to quietly change the testimony of the primary
physician attending the Victim.

Duke saved your lacrosse pigs' butts
and most of you will never realize it. "

**********

Everytime I read something like this it gets me angry & makes my blood boil all over agian. I don't understand way some people still want the lax players in prision? This is just beyond belief.
Durham and Duke University are full of people who think like this. That is why I have said the players could not have received a fair trial in Durham.

Don't ever forget that for the first time in the history of American higher education, a university faculty, staff, administration, and students were cited in a change of venue request as being a reason the defendants could not receive a fair trial. What a damning set of statements.

:bill:
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Baldo
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[PotBangers - All together Now.. Faculty, Duke Employees, Graduates Students, Alumni, and Trinity Park Residents(yes all were there!)]

610 N. Buchanan Chants

Who’s being Silent?
They’re being silent!
Whose protecting rapists?
They’re protecting rapist!
So, who are the rapists?
They must be the rapists!

Out of the house!
Out of the town!
We don’t want,
You around!
Edited by Baldo, Feb 6 2009, 02:54 PM.
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:Pot:
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nyesq83
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Let's remember any nut job can access the BBoard comments at the Chomical...

by the way, Alumni Giving Plunges made me think that maybe this alumnus should be giving a plunger to flush the backed up stopped up turds clogging up the Durm toilet...

I like that - "Alumni Giving Plungers"
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brittany

nyesq83
Feb 6 2009, 03:58 PM
Let's remember any nut job can access the BBoard comments at the Chomical...

by the way, Alumni Giving Plunges made me think that maybe this alumnus should be giving a plunger to flush the backed up stopped up turds clogging up the Durm toilet...

I like that - "Alumni Giving Plungers"
Hi there. Long time no see.
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MikeZPU

Clowns
Feb 6 2009, 06:58 AM
60slib
Feb 5 2009, 11:21 PM
I definitely found Fact Checker's comment more informative than the article and then of course there was this in the comment thread...

Boo Hoo Hoo
posted 2/03/09 @ 11:48 PM EST

"Brodhead got rid of that clown of a lacrosse coach.

He allowed the program to move forward.

What do the Lacrosse Pigs do?

They SUE Duke ! ! !

For What ?

Do you think a University President should
allow himself to strong-armed by a bunch of
arrogant vindictive parents into thwarting due process?

It was real nice of Duke to allow the lacrosse pig
lawyers to quietly change the testimony of the primary
physician attending the Victim.

Duke saved your lacrosse pigs' butts
and most of you will never realize it. "

**********

Everytime I read something like this it gets me angry & makes my blood boil all over agian. I don't understand way some people still want the lax players in prision? This is just beyond belief.
The delusional and deranged poster at The Chronicle
probably can't even comprehend that the slanderous
things that he/she posted about the LAX players and their coach,
calling them pigs and calling Coach Pressler a clown,
is a HUGE reason why they are suing Duke! That such
a false bias lingers well over a year and a half from when
the prosecutor was disbarred and found guilty of over 20
ethical violations and guilty of lying in court, goes to the heart
of the case against Duke.

The Duke administration and a subtantial part of its faculty GREATLY
contributed to the grossly false image of the LAX players
that this poster (at The Chronicle) so desperately wants to believe is true.

Duke greatly facilitated the false prosecution of the LAX
players in several ways, not the least of which was those
reports they issued which purposely exploited dubious statistics
while ignoring more reliable and more recent statistics.

When the case was floundering, Duke helped bolster it by issuing
highly misleading reports about the LAX players, holding a
press conference about the 911 call, cancelling the season
before the DNA results came back, suspending a player
without due processs, firing a coach without due process,
(and, early on, even having their own Duke police alter their
initial reports from that infamous night!)

Then, later, when the DNA results were released and it
was obvious this was a false prosecution, Brodhead decides
he has to be silent and not interfere with the justice system.

This poster (at The Chronicle) can't even comprehend that is he/she who
thwarted due process by presuming guilt immediately.
Edited by MikeZPU, Feb 6 2009, 09:54 PM.
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