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| Topic Started: Aug 25 2009, 04:33 PM (475 Views) | |
| Broly | Aug 25 2009, 04:33 PM Post #1 |
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Well, if you have searched around and read up lately about 9/11 alot of info is now released to the public and also evidence and videos. Now i will not provide any proof or evidence yet but i will just ask what everyone thinks? Do you think 9/11 was a planned assault to the US from our own government? Or was it a real terrorist attack? As for myself, i believe it was all planned and they tried to cover it up as much as possible. The government wasted countless lives that day just to have the excuse to go to war i believe with Iran/Iraq. So please, if you have opinions and such about this go right ahead =] |
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| Smekkie | Aug 25 2009, 04:38 PM Post #2 |
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I think it's an assault, cause I don't think such a plan can't leak rumors, with so many people involved. |
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| TeraHammer | Aug 25 2009, 04:45 PM Post #3 |
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Broly you suck for thinking that. |
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| Mhuahaha | Aug 25 2009, 04:51 PM Post #4 |
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I think it was just those terrorists. Thought the US did royally screw up in their basic defence. |
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| Xclusive | Aug 25 2009, 05:01 PM Post #5 |
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But most of the time terrorists do give out their names etc, or a videotape with 'reasoning'. Because nobody made any point by doing this, and like lots of videos show, lots of things aren't the way it was in the news the first weeks, lot of evidence was hidden/deleted, lot of information was not right and stuff... but, who the heck do I know about it :)... some things will never be clear. |
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| Broly | Aug 25 2009, 05:02 PM Post #6 |
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Thinking what? that the US planned this and the government knew about it all along? Yet pushed it off as it was an assault? |
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| Brithor | Aug 25 2009, 06:01 PM Post #7 |
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Whhahaha, go put on your tinfoil hat, Broly. What are you going to say next? Moon landing was a hoax? |
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| Broly | Aug 25 2009, 06:14 PM Post #8 |
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Yes it was a hoax too =] Really, if your closed minded i would prefer you to not even input what you think considering you cant open your mind to what could be real. Go to youtube, and just search 9/11 conpiracy. There is MANY and i mean MANYYY videos proving that all that they want us to believe is fake. Example there is a video of the pentagon, they said a plane hit it, yet there is a video showing a white or blue blurr ramming into the side of it, which would then mean it would have had to been a missile. Watch the videos showing the WTC falling down, look on the sides and you will see little like "explosions" coming out of the sides of the towers, why would there be mini explosions coming out of the sides of the building when its falling from above? Also one videos shows the replica of the towers showing that when they built it, they had a large layer placed so that if the towers were to collapse it would not take down the whole building. Next would be civilians located on the street saying they heard bombs going off, also they mentioned that the planes were not american and also if you look at the videos it will show right before the plane were to hit either tower, a large light flashed before they even touched the tower which would prove that something was placed there like a bomb/missile was to go off as it were to hit the tower. Need i go on? |
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| Brithor | Aug 25 2009, 06:25 PM Post #9 |
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Firstly. If you're even semi-serious about this discussion you should bring proof to back up your arguments. How do I know that your supposed 'videos' are just not a bunch of bollocks edited by conspiracy theorists? |
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| Mhuahaha | Aug 25 2009, 06:38 PM Post #10 |
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Murderus might tell you this as well but, when a building is on fire, explosions could happen. For instance, when a fire is burning in a room where it has burned up quite a bit of air and if it collapses, an explosion will occur. The massive influx of oxygen is the cause of this. I've also seen documentaries of the towers' collapse. As it turns out, they didn't perform maintenance on the towers properly when painting certain joints. The building was still solid as a rock though. And it was pretty amazing it held out so well, seeing as it wasn't really designed to withstand airplanes crashing into it. Also, when a certain object travels at high speeds from, tumbling down from quite a high for instance, it might pretty quickly become a blurr. If the airplane was painted either white or blue, it could become a white and blue blurr. Coinsidently, airplane hulls have a missile like shape. This tends to be very airodynamic you see. To go on, last time I checked, explosions could happen when something is on fire. Something loaded with fuil for instance. Hmm, fuel explodes when a spark is added to the right fuel to air mixture. I have no clue what the planes possibly not being american proves? Finally, I am no real expert on bombs. So, how come a flashing light means a bomb is about to go off. I think I should remnind that whenever I see a flashing light. Who knows, a car driving by on which air reflects from a polished surface and falls into my eye might be loaded with a bomb/missile and explode. Might sound harsh, but to some of your shabby arguments are pretty darn good scientific explanations. |
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| ReidE96 | Aug 25 2009, 06:38 PM Post #11 |
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Conspiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiracy theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeory! |
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| K-B | Aug 25 2009, 07:09 PM Post #12 |
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ZEITGEIST MOVIEEEEEEEEE |
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| Broly | Aug 25 2009, 07:24 PM Post #13 |
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Alright Mhuahaha for your "reflect of the light" here you go =] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sozFtBVkuz0&feature=PlayList&p=815EAE2FC2321BEF&index=0 The plane not being american proves they lied about that, remember they mentioned all 4 planes counting the one that crashed outside pittsburgh were all american planes that were hi-jacked which you can watch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbVn3o8JNE&feature=PlayList&p=815EAE2FC2321BEF&index=6 And then you say the building is able to fall from fire, yet there is no where in history that a building just collapsed due to fire and here you can listen to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0Ms7mId34&feature=PlayList&p=815EAE2FC2321BEF&index=7 Noe you say that there cant be bombs, yet how is it possible that fuel is just lieing around the building able to blow out the side when its falling down, so here is where you cna witness that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7cvjBViV7g&feature=PlayList&p=815EAE2FC2321BEF&index=8 And in that one i just posted will show you the picutre of the buildings and how they are built, and proves that if 1 of the sections were to collapse, it would just fall to the street instead of bringing it all down. And this last link i think is a good clue to those who think it was real, please watch this and it may show and prove to you that it may be fake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwq04_KhCeI&feature=related |
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| Brithor | Aug 25 2009, 08:07 PM Post #14 |
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Are you serious? I can CLEARLY see that the light comes when the plane hits the building, not before.
1- The planes were American Airlines. 2- Are you really gonna trust a couple of eyewitness that saw the plane for a COUPLE OF SECONDS from miles away to identify the planes? 3- Light source. When you have a bright enough light source behind and object (see: THE SUN), this object will appear darker than it really is (see: GRAY).
Listen to the FIRST LINE of dialogue in the video: "Under NORMAL fire conditions we don't have building collapse." In what way was the WTC fires 'normal'? I mean, if you find an impact from a 179170 kilogram projectile filled with jet-fuel traveling at 300mph a normal cause for a fire then I'd have no other option than to say you're a pretty retarded dumbsleep.
Do you know how many explosions would take to bring down one of the WTC towers? No, you don't. How can you be CERTAIN that a few puffs of smoke (because there were less than 20) would be sufficient to bring the building down? I find that the most likely explanation of those puffs is that the ceiling collapsed on that floor. If you picture each floor as a three dimension box and push the top of the box downwards you will compress the air inside of the box and it will try to escape to a less pressurized place in order to equalize the pressures both inside and outside the box. Air escaping through the windows would justify those puffs of smoke.
This last video is just pure nonsense. I actually lol'd at the 'WAIT A SECOND, HOW DID HE KNOW ALL THIS? THE COLLAPSE HAD JUST HAPPENED'. Well DUH, anyone with two inches of forehead would have arrived at that same conclusion. But then I lol'd EVEN MORE at the 'OMG, HE SAID WITNESSED AND STRUCTURAL FAILURE, NOBODY TALKS LIKE THAT, HE'S NOT GANGSTA SO HE MUST HAVE BEEN PLANTED BY THE GOVMNT.' Yeah, Broly. You've been brainwashed. Edited by Brithor, Aug 25 2009, 09:38 PM.
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| Smekkie | Aug 25 2009, 08:22 PM Post #15 |
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Broly, you fail.
This movie sucks. Witnesses can't be really trusted when they're in shock. Yeah, Brithor FTW!  Broly, do you think the earth is flat aswell? Edited by Smekkie, Aug 25 2009, 08:24 PM.
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| blackwinds | Aug 25 2009, 08:22 PM Post #16 |
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i believe it was a terrorist attack but i also believe the gov knew and decided to not do anything drastic, so they had an excuse to go to war. there werent the normal amount of people in the wtc or the pentagon. i dont think thats a coincidence. but thats just my opinion. |
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| Smekkie | Aug 25 2009, 08:26 PM Post #17 |
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I think that's not true. If the government knew it was coming, it would've leaked. Anything such dramatic leaks. |
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| blackwinds | Aug 25 2009, 08:32 PM Post #18 |
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it actually did. i cant remember exactly where i found it. id have to look again. but there were people saying it would happen and it was pushed aside. same thing happened with pearl harbor as well. theres proof of that also. i just have to take the time to find the links. |
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| ovesh | Aug 25 2009, 09:12 PM Post #19 |
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well you can't believe every thing you hear blackwinds the intelligence has to decide what they think is more real and even if they had some info about 9/11 maybe they thought it could never happen |
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| Mhuahaha | Aug 25 2009, 10:06 PM Post #20 |
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Well, I saw a documentary on discovery channel about that. Appearantly they were keeping an eye on the terrorists before it happened. Talk was that something was up as well, they might even hijack a plane. They chose, however, to not take extra precations. |
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