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Worst thing to happen in history
Topic Started: Jul 18 2009, 11:25 AM (234 Views)
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and KB if you think WWII is the worse thing to happen you might be suprised when you learn more stuff in history :P...


50 million deaths
Systematical extermination of 6 million jews and other minorities.
Hiroshima, Nagasaki

What on earth was worse than that?
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Official Secrets Act. Sorry.
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nothing was worse than WWII, not even Vietnam
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The worse thing in history was the invention of Twitter lol jk

but seriously I agree with TH. The Hiroshima bomb was possibly the worse. Because many of those people did nothing to deserve that.

this is personally why i dont beleive that WWII was quite as bad


but as most would say also, The Holocaust was quite wretched...
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Jul 18 2009, 11:28 PM
The worse thing in history was the invention of Twitter lol jk

but seriously I agree with TH. The Hiroshima bomb was possibly the worse. Because many of those people did nothing to deserve that.

this is personally why i dont beleive that WWII was quite as bad


but as most would say also, The Holocaust was quite wretched...
The bombings were not worse....It was necessary in order to save probably a million american soldeirs lvies that would have been killed trying to invade Japan....Japan DID attack first and you may say the bombs were not necessary but those soldiers lives would have been at risk and it's the goverments job to protect it's citizens
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America sent Japan an ultimatum threatening to drop the bombs. The Japanese reply could be translated as either "Please don't" (sort of WE'LL DO ANYTHING, DON'T DO IT! style) or "You wouldn't dare". Rather than clarify, the powers that be chose to assume it was the "You wouldn't dare" response, and dropped the bombs.

But ww2 is not the worst thing to happen. As I said before though, Official Secrets Act.
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The Hiroshima bomb was possibly the worse. Because many of those people did nothing to deserve that.


And the Jews did deserve it? WHAT?
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ovesh, the Hiroshima bomb wiped out nearly all of the cities population (many through radiation poisoning, a very slow, very painful way to die, taking weeks to kill in some cases), in addition to destroying huge chunks of the city (almost as though the city and all in it vanished). That, and there was no warning. No way to fight back, or escape. Jews fought back when they were being taken to the camps, and some escaped. Hiroshima didn't have a clue, and couldn't do jack shit even if they did.
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Are you serious? The Jews did not really have the power to fight back.....
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actually there were many rebels that fought back for the jewish community.

They did not deserve what happened to them though i do agree with that. This kinda shows that you should pay attention to who you vote for as your countries leader :(

And on another note, The Hiroshima bomb, majority of the citizins of Japan weren't aware or even had a chance to escape. While many of the Jews had the chance, but instead were more afraid to go somewhere they had never been.(remember i'm a strong christian so i have nothing against Jewish people at all)
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well some did leave Germany but who knew that Hitler would concqour almost all of Europe. Where did you want the Jews to go? USA had a limit to the amount of Jews that could enter same with all the rest of the world. Where could they have gone ? there was no Jewish country like today. The British would have a limit on the amount of jews that can enter Britain and Israel (which was controlled by them). All the rest of Europe wasn't really helpful either. Some fought yes but Hiroshima is a part of japan which also fought. I can say the same thing those people should have left Japan since it was at war.

Do you think it was the Jews that voted for hitler? what do you mean choose your leaders wisely?


That is the reason Jews need a country so it will not happen again.


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You know that aside from starting ww2, and all that that entailed, Hilter was one of the greatest leaders of all time?
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Jul 18 2009, 11:58 PM
well some did leave Germany but who knew that Hitler would concqour almost all of Europe. Where did you want the Jews to go? USA had a limit to the amount of Jews that could enter same with all the rest of the world. Where could they have gone ? there was no Jewish country like today. The British would have a limit on the amount of jews that can enter Britain and Israel (which was controlled by them). All the rest of Europe wasn't really helpful either. Some fought yes but Hiroshima is a part of japan which also fought. I can say the same thing those people should have left Japan since it was at war.




Hitler only conquered 2 1/2 other countries not all of Europe. And the Jewish people had many plaecs to go; North towards Russia or parts of Britain, South towards Italy Spain Romania, East towards Asia, but not west :P. Many saw the Laws and things that Hitler put foward that would lead to their complete control and they had a chance to leave.

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Do you think it was the Jews that voted for hitler? what do you mean choose your leaders wisely?

All of germany voted for Hitler, Jewish people included. And I mean choose your leaders wisely because many countries have just made stupid votes beleiving the promises that their leaders have given them, like President Obama in America right now.


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That is the reason Jews need a country so it will not happen again.

And it will never happen again. Jewish people live vastly around the world now and not just in one small area
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The reason it won't happen again is because noone wants to start another world war. We've got enough nukes to blow ourselves to oblivion several times over now.
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You know that aside from starting ww2, and all that that entailed, Hilter was one of the greatest leaders of all time?
He actually did quite a lot. But through the pain of others.


Hitler/Nazis invented:

Volkswagon
KdF computer
Jet Plane
Linked smoking to lung cancer
Nerve gasses
Automatic Rifle
Anti-tank weapons(RPG)
Stealth Technology
Audio Technology(Casette Tapes)
Wankel engine(rotary engine)
Missle Technology
Night Vision(IR tech)
Wishbone Cannon
Rail gun


this is some stuff I found :P

Nazi Inventions
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Is this only not all of Europe? Spain would not allow Jews to enter most of Russia's Jews died, Italy sent all there Jews to die as well, you really need to learn your history if you want to talk about .

Britain would not allow Jews to enter what don't you understand. All the Jews that lived i Spain survived but 400 years before the world war 2 all of spain's Jews were sent away so think about that.
Jews in all of Europe were killed look it up the places where Jews were safe were not allowing everyone to come. Asia you say well lots wanted to go to Israel and were not allowed.


JEWS DID NOT VOTE FOR HITLER HE DID NOT WIN 100% he was just the biggest party there were others then he abolished them.

Yes there are enough nukes to blow up the world and Israel has some of them :D

Hitler's greatness as a leader is not questionable but he was evil. I could explain more what I mean but I am to tired

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On a more peaceful note, Hitler led Germany from the terrible depression they suffered following ww1 to having a strong economy. He also gained a lot of support because of how terribly the Germans were treated after it. It basically came down to "THIS WAS BAD, YOU LOST, YOU TAKE THE BLAME".

Edit: By THIS WAS BAD, I mean consequences of the war. Even stuff they weren't to blame for.
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Jul 18 2009, 11:28 PM
but seriously I agree with TH. The Hiroshima bomb was possibly the worse. Because many of those people did nothing to deserve that.

this is personally why i dont beleive that WWII was quite as bad

How in the name of sleep are the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs NOT WWII.

Did you take History for retards at school or something?
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well one of his brilliant ways to gain money was to go against the treaties Germany signed which lead to WW2 oh yes and stealing all the jew's money as well that helped
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ovesh, the Germans had no choice on signing the treaties. Again, a reason he gained popularity. The talks consisted mostly of the Allies going YOU LOST THE WAR AND THIS HAS HAPPENED TO US, YOU TAKE THE BLAME EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT! and the Germans not getting a word in edgeways. I'm tempted to prod my friend Michael and get him to come over here. He's studied the rise of the Nazi party in considerable detail, seeing as it was the focus topic his class covered in A-Level history (A Level is one step before university).
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