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Newbies vs oldtimers; More newbie protection at the forum?
Topic Started: Jan 27 2009, 12:55 PM (703 Views)
ReidE96	Jan 28 2009, 04:32 PM Post #21
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Treacher	Jan 28 2009, 05:50 PM Post #22
Jester Posts: 52 Group: Members Member #74 Joined: Dec 7, 2008	TeraHammer Jan 28 2009, 01:25 AM Third, Treacher, to counter your sentence about jumping to conclusions, I think you did that in return, actually. I never intended to disadvice newbies from posting in heated topics. Sorry, I was a bit unclear. The jumping to conclusion part was only regarding amazonia. The rest was ment as a general reply, I didn't mean that you are disadvicing newcomers.



amazonia	Jan 29 2009, 12:15 AM Post #23
Brewer Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #116 Joined: Jan 23, 2009	Murderus Jan 28 2009, 05:53 AM wow.. someone sounds grouchy and defensive. Amazonia, you jumped in the middle of a heated argument. Thats like u jumping in a cage of Lions... in due time things woulda settled down. but instead u made it slightly worse by getting in the middle and causing issues. Where was I defensive at Murderus? I though Tera was questioning my posting, so I told Tera my part. And what issues did I cause? I would like to know. I came in stated what I have seen in the past and what I was seeing now. You may not have agreed, but I had the right to state my point of view. And I don't recall participating in the name -calling, which always makes things worst.
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Murderus	Jan 29 2009, 03:50 AM Post #24
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Broly	Jan 29 2009, 09:29 AM Post #25
Supplier Posts: 458 Group: Game Helpers Member #7 Joined: Nov 26, 2008	Well i didnt exaclty read what everyone else said but its like this Alot of the times, when we would put down the n00bs is because they were either annoying, ingorant or spammers. Annoying as they would ask questions that could have been answered in game or in FAQ or be annoying with other players in the forums that really wasnt needed. Ignorant as trying to piss off some old player and then spammers, just spamming the forum when its not needed Alot of the time n00bs would like to also talk like they are the "best" cough Deathwish cough Now for n00bs like this when they talk like they are like way better then the others and think they know everything and they are better, well thats a reason why everyone will turn on that person without a doubt. Now sometimes its for fun, these are forums and its fun to stir problems up as long as in the long run its just for fun, example on some other game forums they use PnP (Propoganda and Politics) against one another tribes and they would pretty much troll againt them and talk bad about them, which then leads to mind control over the opponent. It is always normal to have conflict and problems with the forums



Treacher	Jan 29 2009, 11:14 AM Post #26
Jester Posts: 52 Group: Members Member #74 Joined: Dec 7, 2008	Quote: Alot of the times, when we would put down the n00bs is because they were either annoying, ingorant or spammers. So You would put a newcommer down just because You thought he was annoying? Are you serious? Quote: Annoying as they would ask questions that could have been answered in game or in FAQ or be annoying with other players in the forums that really wasnt needed. If it was already answered then you could've simply answered with a direction to where it was answered. Anything else than that is what really isn't needed. What you imply you answered is definetly not needed. Quote: Ignorant as trying to piss off some old player and then spammers, just spamming the forum when its not needed Spammers is one thing. The other part I can only read as you think since being a older player you are better than new players and don't wanna be bothered by them. Quote: Alot of the time n00bs would like to also talk like they are the "best" I'm pretty sure I've seen many older players talk the same way. So basically your views and thoughts could be seen as, that You will try and bully many new players away from this forum if you don't like them.



amazonia	Jan 31 2009, 02:04 AM Post #27
Brewer Posts: 29 Group: Members Member #116 Joined: Jan 23, 2009	Treacher, I'm in total agreement with you. If a new person ask a question, it is NEW to them, but not to us. We should point them to the answer, not put them down. It is like teaching. I know math, I know it well. I took Calculus for FUN (didn't need the credits). But everyday, in my classroom, I remind myself that this may be the first time one of my students have every seen this. And even if it is not the first time, according to research, a person needs to practice something correctly at least 20 times BEFORE they can master it. People who are new to the game need help, not put-downs. They don't need to be told they are stupid or because they are new, just shut-up and go to the 'friendly' topics. They should not be told that they have no business posting because they are newbies. As far as bragging about being the best...an old saying...even the best can be beaten. So what if they brag? Tons of oldies brag, and they really have nothing to brag about...being a champ on a text game...boy that is really impressive Something to write home about huh? If one is going to get mad that a certain person is bragging, one is going to be mad a lot in this forum. Even with all of that, it is NO reason not to help out a newbie, not answer their questions or call them outside of their name (ie name-calling).
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MrCoolness	Feb 1 2009, 07:36 AM Post #28
Perfumer Posts: 1,697 Group: Members Member #129 Joined: Jan 29, 2009	Yes I agree.... Extremely outstanding post there Mhuahaha I also agree with what amazonia said. Quote: There is NO reason not to help out a newbie, not answer their questions or call them outside of their name (ie name-calling). Everyone was new at one time or another..... I would like everyone to remeber that when they come across a new person in need of help or advise.
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Murderus	Feb 1 2009, 11:08 AM Post #29
Tanner Posts: 1,132 Group: News crew Member #2 Joined: Nov 21, 2008	I had many players helping me.. ;-D one i remember was albn(the don) and terahammer, zoizee, chaos6, smasherx, Alexxxneo. Edited by Murderus, Feb 1 2009, 11:08 AM.
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ovesh	Feb 1 2009, 01:55 PM Post #30
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R4W-D34THW1SH	Feb 3 2009, 04:05 AM Post #31
The UnderDoG oF LA Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: Jan 19, 2009	i think i need to post here. I had another account you can see proof. my name was just D34THW1SH. i wasnt familiar with forums but i jumped back into them and made a new name with my tag. I just wanted to say that it does seem like i jumped into a heated argument. but i didnt go on there to argue. i wanted to learn about the bug to infrom my clan what happened. nobody knows because not many people check these ext forums. i expressed my certain feelings about the cheating. which lead to alot of bashing in where i felt i had to continue to defend myself. it did get childish and way out of hand but im staying out of the topic now, i expresses what i had to say and i just dont feel like responding to people who post about me and not the topic. Since then they have made whole forum's targetting me and my clanmates for attack, so ill let them go. It basically does Make me want to avoid the forums as i was going to Stop getting on the ext forums intil terra gave me the idea to be useful. Please also understand there are many players i speak with on the game that dont use these ext forums but have ideas and feelings they had expressed through me. I have also been accused of saying things about other clans i never said. I never said i was better then every clan, or deserve to be the top clan. Someone said i had put down incarnations. False, i talk to the leader of incarnations and we get along fine, that's one clan i really respect alot. They also stated i didnt like the forest. False, i have no problem with The Forest at all, they seem like a pretty good and challenging clan. My point is because i Think Cheaters deserve a bigger punishment, and because baggy doesnt like me inviting his members they seem to want to team up on me and have others dislike me by posting false statements. Either way im staying on the forums for the positive threads. I really think more should have been done to keep the personal attacks off of the forums. People stopped posting because of others ignorance.



[NL]Freak	Feb 3 2009, 06:00 AM Post #32
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MrCoolness	Feb 3 2009, 09:26 AM Post #33
Perfumer Posts: 1,697 Group: Members Member #129 Joined: Jan 29, 2009	R4W-D34THW1SH Feb 3 2009, 04:05 AM Either way im staying on the forums for the positive threads. I really think more should have been done to keep the personal attacks off of the forums. People stopped posting because of others ignorance. I agree more should have been done to prevent the personal attacks from becoming a blood sport... Everyone needs to do their own part to make the forum a place for everyone to speak their mind and not be attacked or degraded for their thoughts and opinions.
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Brithor	Apr 27 2009, 11:30 PM Post #34
Lil' Chico Posts: 971 Group: Members Member #4 Joined: Nov 24, 2008	ovesh Feb 1 2009, 01:55 PM I remember docdiablo now he was great GOD DAMN YOU Ovesh! I didn't remember him Nostalgia trip time now Also, noobs suck. They come here all 'and whoru?' and then I kill them with my eyelasers. Edited by Brithor, Apr 27 2009, 11:36 PM.



Mhuahaha	Apr 27 2009, 11:35 PM Post #35
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Brithor	Apr 27 2009, 11:37 PM Post #36
Lil' Chico Posts: 971 Group: Members Member #4 Joined: Nov 24, 2008	Or with both! Also, where's Zoizee?



ovesh	Jul 4 2009, 12:02 AM Post #37
king of the world Posts: 993 Group: Members Member #43 Joined: Nov 29, 2008	where is zoisee?
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MrCoolness	Jul 4 2009, 04:12 AM Post #38
Perfumer Posts: 1,697 Group: Members Member #129 Joined: Jan 29, 2009	What is zoisee?
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[NL]Freak	Jul 4 2009, 04:27 AM Post #39
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Murderus	Jul 4 2009, 05:14 AM Post #40
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Newbies vs oldtimers; More newbie protection at the forum?

Topic Started: Jan 27 2009, 12:55 PM (703 Views)

ReidE96

Jan 28 2009, 04:32 PM Post #21

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Protip for folk just starting on the forums: Go to Off Topic or Welcome/Goodbye. A first post is best in the Hi/Bye forum, and off topic is where we take things lightly. Just join in, be nice, and THEN join arguments, because someone is guaranteed to be of the opposite view, and strongly. Mhuy, you said it all.

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Treacher

Jan 28 2009, 05:50 PM Post #22

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Jan 28 2009, 01:25 AM
Third, Treacher, to counter your sentence about jumping to conclusions, I think you did that in return, actually. I never intended to disadvice newbies from posting in heated topics.

Sorry, I was a bit unclear. The jumping to conclusion part was only regarding amazonia. The rest was ment as a general reply, I didn't mean that you are disadvicing newcomers.

amazonia

Jan 29 2009, 12:15 AM Post #23

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Murderus
Jan 28 2009, 05:53 AM
wow.. someone sounds grouchy and defensive. Amazonia, you jumped in the middle of a heated argument. Thats like u jumping in a cage of Lions... in due time things woulda settled down. but instead u made it slightly worse by getting in the middle and causing issues.

Where was I defensive at Murderus? I though Tera was questioning my posting, so I told Tera my part.

And what issues did I cause? I would like to know. I came in stated what I have seen in the past and what I was seeing now. You may not have agreed, but I had the right to state my point of view. And I don't recall participating in the name -calling, which always makes things worst.

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Jan 29 2009, 03:50 AM Post #24

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nvm sorry amazonia. i was wrong u were right. im making peace.

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Jan 29 2009, 09:29 AM Post #25

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Well i didnt exaclty read what everyone else said but its like this

Alot of the times, when we would put down the n00bs is because they were either annoying, ingorant or spammers. Annoying as they would ask questions that could have been answered in game or in FAQ or be annoying with other players in the forums that really wasnt needed. Ignorant as trying to piss off some old player and then spammers, just spamming the forum when its not needed

Alot of the time n00bs would like to also talk like they are the "best" *cough* Deathwish *cough* Now for n00bs like this when they talk like they are like way better then the others and think they know everything and they are better, well thats a reason why everyone will turn on that person without a doubt.

Now sometimes its for fun, these are forums and its fun to stir problems up as long as in the long run its just for fun, example on some other game forums they use PnP (Propoganda and Politics) against one another tribes and they would pretty much troll againt them and talk bad about them, which then leads to mind control over the opponent. It is always normal to have conflict and problems with the forums

Treacher

Jan 29 2009, 11:14 AM Post #26

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Quote:

Alot of the times, when we would put down the n00bs is because they were either annoying, ingorant or spammers.

So You would put a newcommer down just because You thought he was annoying? Are you serious?

Quote:

Annoying as they would ask questions that could have been answered in game or in FAQ or be annoying with other players in the forums that really wasnt needed.

If it was already answered then you could've simply answered with a direction to where it was answered. Anything else than that is what really isn't needed. What you imply you answered is definetly not needed.

Quote:

Ignorant as trying to piss off some old player and then spammers, just spamming the forum when its not needed

Spammers is one thing. The other part I can only read as you think since being a older player you are better than new players and don't wanna be bothered by them.

Quote:

Alot of the time n00bs would like to also talk like they are the "best"

I'm pretty sure I've seen many older players talk the same way.

So basically your views and thoughts could be seen as, that You will try and bully many new players away from this forum if you don't like them.

amazonia

Jan 31 2009, 02:04 AM Post #27

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Treacher, I'm in total agreement with you.

If a new person ask a question, it is NEW to them, but not to us. We should point them to the answer, not put them down.

It is like teaching. I know math, I know it well. I took Calculus for FUN (didn't need the credits). But everyday, in my classroom, I remind myself that this may be the first time one of my students have every seen this. And even if it is not the first time, according to research, a person needs to practice something correctly at least 20 times BEFORE they can master it.

People who are new to the game need help, not put-downs. They don't need to be told they are stupid or because they are new, just shut-up and go to the 'friendly' topics. They should not be told that they have no business posting because they are newbies.

As far as bragging about being the best...an old saying...even the best can be beaten. So what if they brag? Tons of oldies brag, and they really have nothing to brag about...being a champ on a text game...boy that is really impressive ^o)

Something to write home about huh? If one is going to get mad that a certain person is bragging, one is going to be mad a lot in this forum.

Even with all of that, it is NO reason not to help out a newbie, not answer their questions or call them outside of their name (ie name-calling).

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MrCoolness

Feb 1 2009, 07:36 AM Post #28

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Yes I agree.... Extremely outstanding post there Mhuahaha B-)

I also agree with what amazonia said.

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There is NO reason not to help out a newbie, not answer their questions or call them outside of their name (ie name-calling).

Everyone was new at one time or another..... I would like everyone to remeber that when they come across a new person in need of help or advise.

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Murderus

Feb 1 2009, 11:08 AM Post #29

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I had many players helping me.. ;-D one i remember was albn(the don) and terahammer, zoizee, chaos6, smasherx, Alexxxneo.

Edited by Murderus, Feb 1 2009, 11:08 AM.

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ovesh

Feb 1 2009, 01:55 PM Post #30

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i think i need to post here. I had another account you can see proof. my name was just D34THW1SH. i wasnt familiar with forums but i jumped back into them and made a new name with my tag.
I just wanted to say that it does seem like i jumped into a heated argument. but i didnt go on there to argue. i wanted to learn about the bug to infrom my clan what happened. nobody knows because not many people check these ext forums. i expressed my certain feelings about the cheating. which lead to alot of bashing in where i felt i had to continue to defend myself. it did get childish and way out of hand but im staying out of the topic now, i expresses what i had to say and i just dont feel like responding to people who post about me and not the topic.

Since then they have made whole forum's targetting me and my clanmates for attack, so ill let them go. It basically does Make me want to avoid the forums as i was going to Stop getting on the ext forums intil terra gave me the idea to be useful.

Please also understand there are many players i speak with on the game that dont use these ext forums but have ideas and feelings they had expressed through me. I have also been accused of saying things about other clans i never said. I never said i was better then every clan, or deserve to be the top clan. Someone said i had put down incarnations. False, i talk to the leader of incarnations and we get along fine, that's one clan i really respect alot. They also stated i didnt like the forest. False, i have no problem with The Forest at all, they seem like a pretty good and challenging clan. My point is because i Think Cheaters deserve a bigger punishment, and because baggy doesnt like me inviting his members they seem to want to team up on me and have others dislike me by posting false statements.

Either way im staying on the forums for the positive threads. I really think more should have been done to keep the personal attacks off of the forums. People stopped posting because of others ignorance.

[NL]Freak

Feb 3 2009, 06:00 AM Post #32

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nice post man:)

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R4W-D34THW1SH
Feb 3 2009, 04:05 AM
Either way im staying on the forums for the positive threads. I really think more should have been done to keep the personal attacks off of the forums. People stopped posting because of others ignorance.

I agree more should have been done to prevent the personal attacks from becoming a blood sport...

Everyone needs to do their own part to make the forum a place for everyone to speak their mind and not be attacked or degraded for their thoughts and opinions.

www.epicmafia.com

Brithor

Apr 27 2009, 11:30 PM Post #34

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ovesh
Feb 1 2009, 01:55 PM
I remember docdiablo now he was great

GOD DAMN YOU Ovesh!
I didn't remember him

Nostalgia trip time now

Also, noobs suck.

They come here all 'and whoru?' and then I kill them with my eyelasers.

Edited by Brithor, Apr 27 2009, 11:36 PM.

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Apr 27 2009, 11:35 PM Post #35

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Or with your giant staff.

Don't ask....

I AM MERELY A FORUM ADMIN. I HAVE NO IN-GAME POWERS.

Brithor

Apr 27 2009, 11:37 PM Post #36

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Or with both!
Also, where's Zoizee?

ovesh

Jul 4 2009, 12:02 AM Post #37

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where is zoisee?

MrCoolness

Jul 4 2009, 04:12 AM Post #38

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What is zoisee?

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[NL]Freak

Jul 4 2009, 04:27 AM Post #39

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lol what is zoizee? zoizee is alexxx;s bf"{

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Jul 4 2009, 05:14 AM Post #40

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haha, i talk to zoizee(michael) still on msn sometimes. I'll mail him and ask what he's up to.

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