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I was watching the dancing scene and hoping that maybe one day Clara is the one who asks "Dance with me?" and that could happen in public, it would be cute :wub:
No way, next time Marina will combine the two and tell Clara to dance for her
:rofl: and definitely in that outfit.
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I was watching the dancing scene and hoping that maybe one day Clara is the one who asks "Dance with me?" and that could happen in public, it would be cute :wub:
No way, next time Marina will combine the two and tell Clara to dance for her
:rofl: and definitely in that outfit.
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Just been re watching some old episodes, I liked the part where Marina told Vanessa she falls in love a lot as she is searching for eternal love but its hard to find. And then in a later episode (in the helicopter) Marina tells Clara she is the woman she has been searching for :love:

I know this is old but I love it, and this says it all for me.

And I also liked it when Marina thought she could fire Clara from her heart because that's what her character is like (she must of found it easy to do that with all her ex`s), but she just couldn`t with Clara

Love this couple so much
I don't think she needed to fire her ex-es from her heart. She fell out of love with her exes, they disappeared from her heart, she didn't have to make any effort.

Clara is different, she's never had her before, but she's still loving her so much, she realizes she has to do something. She wants to fire her from her heart cause she's under the impression that maybe she can. She hasn't been in this position before, she never had to do that. If she has, she didn't have to do it many times and it was always easier cause she never felt as much for them as she feels now for Clara. Before Clara, she was able to get over someone. But not Clara, she found out that she can't fire Clara from her heart. This is True Love, there is no dismissing it.
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Does anyone of you looks like Marina or Clara? If so would love to go out with you :D .
If I have to compare myself to them, I do look like... .well, I would say more Marina, but nothing like her I guess Lol.

I don't have the brown eyes, I have blue eyes.

I do have the black long hair though. I don't know how tall she is, I'm 170 cm.

I do wear glasses, a bit different than her style.

And I'm younger than her, as far as I know she's born 1982, I'm 1988 (you're getting fresh one! LOL )
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
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I think they cut other scenes that they feel are boring and instead inserted scenes of flashback Clarina scenes. Good for us but actually adds little to the plot. I find that they sorta are using Clarina flashbacks to fill up the episode? which is totally a good thing to me cos this means they know Clarina rocks the ratings. so i'm really hopeful to seeing a nice passionate kiss and not just a peck. Imma flip a table if a peck happens only.
hahaha... 'imma flip a table if a peck happens' :rofl: :rofl:

I have to agree with you know. It would be very disappointing and in my opinion not true to how their characters would really kiss. They have such pent up sexual tension it would just be ridiculous if it's "released" with a peck! To be honest, I'd rather they keep on with the near kisses that show desire than one with no passion.
yes i agree with you...gosh. we all know how intense the dancing scene was. THAT WAS SEXUAL CHEMISTRY SHOOTING UP THE CHARTSSSSS....so Globo, you don't need us to tell you what to do to bring up ratings for your drama. Just change your main couple to Clarina..SIMPLE AS THAT.

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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
I think that Marina actually is a bit player and keeps her options open.
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
I don't think Marina feeds it. She doesn't need to say it everytime she doesn't want Vanessa. If she wanted, she'd be with her, she's no6 feeding it. The way I see it, she doesn't want to hurt Vanessa's feelings, but they both know Marina doesn't feel that way about her. Vanessa hopes she will again though. And right now, Marina hopes that maybe she can get over Clara, because it's getting painful for her.
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
Marina was treating Vanessa the same way. Vanessa just used the opportunity to try to make a move, be sweet with Marina in the morning, but there was no change of behaviour in Marina
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
Marina was treating Vanessa the same way. Vanessa just used the opportunity to try to make a move, be sweet with Marina in the morning, but there was no change of behaviour in Marina
Yea...I've never thought Marina misled Vanessa with how she felt. Like what other posters have said, she just doesn't wanna spoil her relationship with Vanessa. She has said many times that she is her best friend. And she had also told V that their relationship because they became friends...so i wouldn't say she has been misleading Vanessa.
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wow.. i didn't know that. Glad they're moving up the Clarina scenes. :)
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
Marina was treating Vanessa the same way. Vanessa just used the opportunity to try to make a move, be sweet with Marina in the morning, but there was no change of behaviour in Marina
Yea...I've never thought Marina misled Vanessa with how she felt. Like what other posters have said, she just doesn't wanna spoil her relationship with Vanessa. She has said many times that she is her best friend. And she had also told V that their relationship because they became friends...so i wouldn't say she has been misleading Vanessa.
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
Marina was treating Vanessa the same way. Vanessa just used the opportunity to try to make a move, be sweet with Marina in the morning, but there was no change of behaviour in Marina
Vanessa seems to make her moves when Marina is sad and vulnerable. I remember when they were in bed after Clara`s party Marina told Vanessa "we ended when we become friends".

I do agree with you though I wish Marina would be a bit more firmer, but then again would Vanessa actually listen she seems to be a bit deluded
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
Marina was treating Vanessa the same way. Vanessa just used the opportunity to try to make a move, be sweet with Marina in the morning, but there was no change of behaviour in Marina
Vanessa seems to make her moves when Marina is sad and vulnerable. I remember when they were in bed after Clara`s party Marina told Vanessa "we ended when we become friends".

I do agree with you though I wish Marina would be a bit more firmer, but then again would Vanessa actually listen she seems to be a bit deluded
I feel like firmer would mean end their friendship, and neither wants that. Marina loves Vanessa and Vanessa is her best friend. She wants that. It's just complicated for both cause they want different things out of the relationship, but neither wants it to end.
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
I don't think Marina feeds it. She doesn't need to say it everytime she doesn't want Vanessa. If she wanted, she'd be with her, she's no6 feeding it. The way I see it, she doesn't want to hurt Vanessa's feelings, but they both know Marina doesn't feel that way about her. Vanessa hopes she will again though. And right now, Marina hopes that maybe she can get over Clara, because it's getting painful for her.
I pretty agree with opinion, that Marina is kind of playing with Van. i dont think marina feed vanessa with some hope on purpose, but she still leaves that door pretty open, just in case. Yes, she is in love with Clara, it is painful, so it is pretty comfotable to have a friend with possible benefits ...
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ok another one : is there a difference between ta bem and ta bom ?
and in the almost kiss scene, Marina says : seu marido e seu marido, ta ? does this "ta" mean ok? is it the same as in "ta bom"?
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HAHA oh boy, that will be hard but I'll try... If it's for food you will answer "tá (está) bom" for the rest you can say it's the same, it means "ok". It's the same for her "tá", "your husband is your husband, ok?"
I think it's more or less this lol.
"tá" is the short of "está"
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
I don't think Marina feeds it. She doesn't need to say it everytime she doesn't want Vanessa. If she wanted, she'd be with her, she's no6 feeding it. The way I see it, she doesn't want to hurt Vanessa's feelings, but they both know Marina doesn't feel that way about her. Vanessa hopes she will again though. And right now, Marina hopes that maybe she can get over Clara, because it's getting painful for her.
I pretty agree with opinion, that Marina is kind of playing with Van. i dont think marina feed vanessa with some hope on purpose, but she still leaves that door pretty open, just in case. Yes, she is in love with Clara, it is painful, so it is pretty comfotable to have a friend with possible benefits ...
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
I don't think Marina feeds it. She doesn't need to say it everytime she doesn't want Vanessa. If she wanted, she'd be with her, she's no6 feeding it. The way I see it, she doesn't want to hurt Vanessa's feelings, but they both know Marina doesn't feel that way about her. Vanessa hopes she will again though. And right now, Marina hopes that maybe she can get over Clara, because it's getting painful for her.
I agree. If someone loves you and you don't feel the same way back (anymore), when your heart completely and totally belongs to someone else, you don't have to remind them everyday that it's not going to happen. It hurts them and you don't want to hurt them all the time. Marina has made very clear to Vanessa that she is totally in love with Clara and that Clara is the one for her, that she's never been in love like this. Vanessa is understandably hurt by this but it's just the way things go sometimes. Vanessa has not made a whole lot of moves towards Marina, she's actually been a really good friend.

She's still a woman in love, this is a desperate attempt to see if there is anything left for her to cling to, if she and Marina are ever going to be lovers again. I can't really blame her for being in love and fighting for her love. She will eventually have to back off and she will. It'll hurt her, but she will. Marina's response was empty, when Vanessa caressed her chin, Marina even looked uncomfortable. She hasn't given Vanessa any indication that they are going to be back to what they were, Marina was just very hurt to not be able to see Clara for a bit, doesn't mean she's open to being with Vanessa now. Her heart still belongs to Clara and she's not even entertaining the idea at this point of anything else with Vanessa. Vanessa just had to give it one more try, something she hasn't done openly in a long time.

In my opinion, Marina's not hoping she can get over Clara. She's hoping she'll see her again soon cause waiting hurts.
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One day Vanessa is saying she's never seen Marina that sick in love and Marina is saying she's never been that in love. The other day Vanessa is trying to convince Marina her love for Clara is like all the others she has had before. Part of it is denial, part of it is trying to play her game when Marina is more vulnerable, part of it is trying to get some. On Marina's end is keeping a friend and keeping someone who makes (or tries to) her feel better when she's down.
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
I don't think Marina feeds it. She doesn't need to say it everytime she doesn't want Vanessa. If she wanted, she'd be with her, she's no6 feeding it. The way I see it, she doesn't want to hurt Vanessa's feelings, but they both know Marina doesn't feel that way about her. Vanessa hopes she will again though. And right now, Marina hopes that maybe she can get over Clara, because it's getting painful for her.
I agree. If someone loves you and you don't feel the same way back (anymore), when your heart completely and totally belongs to someone else, you don't have to remind them everyday that it's not going to happen. It hurts them and you don't want to hurt them all the time. Marina has made very clear to Vanessa that she is totally in love with Clara and that Clara is the one for her, that she's never been in love like this. Vanessa is understandably hurt by this but it's just the way things go sometimes. Vanessa has not made a whole lot of moves towards Marina, she's actually been a really good friend.

She's still a woman in love, this is a desperate attempt to see if there is anything left for her to cling to, if she and Marina are ever going to be lovers again. I can't really blame her for being in love and fighting for her love. She will eventually have to back off and she will. It'll hurt her, but she will. Marina's response was empty, when Vanessa caressed her chin, Marina even looked uncomfortable. She hasn't given Vanessa any indication that they are going to be back to what they were, Marina was just very hurt to not be able to see Clara for a bit, doesn't mean she's open to being with Vanessa now. Her heart still belongs to Clara and she's not even entertaining the idea at this point of anything else with Vanessa. Vanessa just had to give it one more try, something she hasn't done openly in a long time.

In my opinion, Marina's not hoping she can get over Clara. She's hoping she'll see her again soon cause waiting hurts.
I don't blame either Vanessa or Marina. It's what you said the way they feel and they both know it. It's an honest relationship from both ends.

I think Marina knows Clara always comes back, but part of her is also scared one day she might not to. Because everyone who's in love is always afraid too.
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sorry but I have to say this, Marina's behavior with Vanessa makes my blood boil more than ever, when she is with Clara she's pretend that there is nothing between them as only friendship but when Clara disappears for some time, Marina welcome Vanessa with open arms and that's why I can't blame Vanessa for her behavior with Clara if there's someone to blame it's only Marina, she should decisively tell Vanessa that they will never get back together and they don't have common future but what Marina doing? when Vanessa talk about them she only smiles and feeds Vanessa's hopes
I don't think Marina feeds it. She doesn't need to say it everytime she doesn't want Vanessa. If she wanted, she'd be with her, she's no6 feeding it. The way I see it, she doesn't want to hurt Vanessa's feelings, but they both know Marina doesn't feel that way about her. Vanessa hopes she will again though. And right now, Marina hopes that maybe she can get over Clara, because it's getting painful for her.
I agree. If someone loves you and you don't feel the same way back (anymore), when your heart completely and totally belongs to someone else, you don't have to remind them everyday that it's not going to happen. It hurts them and you don't want to hurt them all the time. Marina has made very clear to Vanessa that she is totally in love with Clara and that Clara is the one for her, that she's never been in love like this. Vanessa is understandably hurt by this but it's just the way things go sometimes. Vanessa has not made a whole lot of moves towards Marina, she's actually been a really good friend.

She's still a woman in love, this is a desperate attempt to see if there is anything left for her to cling to, if she and Marina are ever going to be lovers again. I can't really blame her for being in love and fighting for her love. She will eventually have to back off and she will. It'll hurt her, but she will. Marina's response was empty, when Vanessa caressed her chin, Marina even looked uncomfortable. She hasn't given Vanessa any indication that they are going to be back to what they were, Marina was just very hurt to not be able to see Clara for a bit, doesn't mean she's open to being with Vanessa now. Her heart still belongs to Clara and she's not even entertaining the idea at this point of anything else with Vanessa. Vanessa just had to give it one more try, something she hasn't done openly in a long time.

In my opinion, Marina's not hoping she can get over Clara. She's hoping she'll see her again soon cause waiting hurts.
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