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| The Kyle and Fish are ending and need to vent thread. | |
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| timmo | Mar 11 2010, 01:13 AM Post #591 |
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Alright. Well after reading over 600 posts after hearing the news shortly after it came out this afternoon--I guess I better chime in. I should have gone to sleep hours ago, but oh well. When I first read the TV Guide article, it was somewhat disbelief. It still hasn't been even 12 hours since the news so I'm not ready to place blame or even explain to myself why this happened. All I can really think about right now is how much I've enjoyed watching Scott and Brett and seeing their characters' stories play out since last summer. I like to think of myself as a fun and happy person who's comfortable with myself. I saw myself in Scott a lot. From all the interviews and seeing his talent on screen, I saw a confident, happy, funny man who happened to be gay and who enjoyed his life. For some reason he struck a chord with me and made me strive to share those qualities. I have great friends (who I don't see enough of), but unfortunately living in the heartland (where supposedly all these mainstream viewers are from), it's awfully hard to find others like myself. My friends are all great and accepting, but they're also all straight and just can't relate to me the same way a gay guy can. Being able to watch Kyle and Fish on OLTL was just the closest thing I had to a gay best friend at this point in my life. After day in and day out between a full time job and being a full time student, and being surrounded by straight folks through it all, it was just refreshing to come home and see two guys who just love each other and who are supported by those around them. For me, I didn't really mind that they weren't on every day (cough Todd) as much as I loved how they were just a normal part of the community that made up Llanview. I'll probably add more to the conversation later when I'm rested and can think straight, but it is a real disappointment. I'll move on and I doubt I'll be watching soaps anymore, but it's truly been a great journey while it lasted. I'll definitely be following Scott and Brett after this. They've got a lot to be proud of and there's no doubt they'll continue to be wildly successful. |
| ForKyleandOliver | Mar 11 2010, 01:27 AM Post #592 |
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ABCD has shown it's "racist" face before in different avenues that for some have been evident. Now I guess they must show their prejudice also exists for the gay community as well. I know that some are upset with RC and FV for not just walking away but in this economy, you have to take care of yourself. Not that some would not walk away. I could see that happening too. It's like Brett saying that Kyle has changed him. I could see if a situation presented itself, that I don't think Brett could stand back for a paycheck and let whatever happen. I think he would do what he thought was best for her spirit and soul, over his pocket. The same imo of Scott. What bothers me is the "we've told the story we wanted to tell" or whatever crap was said. As if this is now complete. Yeah, somethings may have been "crammed" with the coming out storyline, the BGW, the gay bashing, and at gay parenting, but imo, maybe RC/FV knew and wanted to have a chance to FINALLY TELL what was not getting told. Maybe they knew Kish was basically DOA at some point but they were going to give as much as the could. But another aspect that bothered me and NOT JUST because I can't stand the nausea of this pairing is that I have to be told that Kish's story is basically done as new characters with MUCH MORE TO EXPLORE BESIDES THEIR SEXUALITY, but I have to version 100,250 of Jolie SAME SHIT, DIFFERENT YEAR STORY that has been told time and time again like it's supposed to be a "real lovestory". If you have to recycyle the same shit for 5 years, why is that story YET AGAIN being RETOLD but Kish have nowhere to go in story. Jolie's Hero/Victim shit has been going for 5 yrs and this is a story worth telling and even revisiting AGAIN in the SAME way it's been done for the last 5 while Kish is not worth anything while being new, refreshing, innovative and REAL LOVE not based on ISH like Jolie but it can't be told because they are men. But the likes of crap like Jolie are all up my ass like I need a rectal probe with that shit again? I stopped watching OLTL before once REG left and some of that was what I felt was based on "racism" and tptb back then catered to. I came back for a moment with some entrance because I pairing I though should have happened before I stopped watching, seemed to be getting a chance(Cayla). Then to come in, and be SWEPT AWAY by Brett as Kyle and to ONLY FALL HEAD OVER HEELS in love with Kyle because of his LOVE for a PERSON that was DEEP REAL and RAW and not built on recycled and contrived SHIT but something new and imaginative and truly, the most beautiful lovestory imo, I've seen since Jake and Megan, was wonderful to fall for as a woman who loves a lovestory that she can TRULY BELIEVE IN based on LOVE and not gender. Kish replaced what I came back to seek for Cayla. And though I love Cayla much, Kish exceeded the TRUE LOVE HEART that ached for a story like Jake and Megan who were imo the all time most romantic OLTL couple EVER. To get that story and that type romance and to have shattered and told there is no more story tot ell there but there is the same version of Jolie that deserves a story more is PURE BULLSHIT. I've never bought into the contrived ish of Jolie and have kept my mouth mostly shut since this revisit, but this getting rid of new and innovative for old and tired because tptb choose to cater to bigots YET AGAIN, I had let that shit out. So I say... FUCK RECYCLED JOLIE, FUCK BRIAN FRONS, FUCK OLTL, and FUCK ABCD, and MOSTLY FUCK THE BIGOTS!!!!!!! When Kish are done, I will be done and I will ONLY WATCH on days they are on until they are gone. I will not be returning to ABCD again. I should have learned by some of the shit I've heard from REG personally and then ME and TSJ through online friends, that OLTL IS FULL OF SHIT AND ALWAYS WILL BE. My love for Brett and Scott will live on but I too like many of you, loved the characters but it's that actors that made me love the characters. And as a straght married female, it was never about the "gay" for me with Kyle and Oliver...just the love though I MUCH APPRECIATED the story of civil rights told about a different group that experiences discrimation and some of the parts that were told truthfully and played wonderfully by the actors involved in those storylines. Sorry to go off like I did. I actually don't crush. It's not my style or personality, but I'm on pissed bitch right now. . |
| Deletemyprofileplease | Mar 11 2010, 01:27 AM Post #593 |
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DON'T MAKE ME GO GAGA ON YOUR ASS, ABCD!!!!
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i feel like for the people who can personally connect to Kish, this is a prettty helfty blow. I feel like I knew Oliver, I knew his struggle, his fears, his inner turmoil and i still know it to this day. He was someone i looked up to as something of a mentor. If he could accept himself, maybe...just maybe... Kish coming together gave me something to hope for, something to look forward to. A life that i could maybe plan for myself. With them being essentially killed off, its not only like losing someone i connected to, its showing me what the "mainstream" really thinks of people. It just makes me sad in general...I'm still having a hard time... They were really a beacon of hope, a flicker of hope, snubbed out too soon. |
| becca | Mar 11 2010, 01:29 AM Post #594 |
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What the effing, effing hell? I went out of town for a few hours and look what happened! I can't believe this. I was on this site after the episode aired last night and everyone was saying we basically felt safe about our boys. AND I was starting to feel more positive about the storyline. I. Can't. Believe. This. This sucks! To be honest, I've had a bit of a bad feeling for a couple of weeks now (although I thought that was those SE tweets) and I was also worried that maybe the show didn't know how to write for thes characters past the coming-out storyline. They extended it with the baby storyline but I was concerned that beyond that they were just going to shrug their shoulders. I'm sorry, there's nothing I can add that hasn't been said already. The problem is, for me, it's already wrecked. Even their remaining scenes will be ruined for me now, because I'm so pissed about this. I was, at best, a casual viewer, who hadn't watched more than one episode in a row since the early 90s before this story and these characters came along. What I can't understand is, I go on other message boards. I've actually found surprisingly few people who dislike the Kish story. I'm always surprised, and pleased, to find people whose favorite characters are John, or Starr, or Jessica, or Todd, or Natalie, or Dorian, or Destiny, who have really, really enjoyed the Kish story. Or they really like Kyle. Or they really like Oliver. And they're enjoying seeing them on screen. THey don't fast-forward their scenes; even though they're not "fans", they watch and enjoy them. This doesn't sound like large-scale hatred/disapproval/disconnection to me. |
| timmo | Mar 11 2010, 01:37 AM Post #595 |
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That really sums it up well. Day after day of the grind just gets to me after awhile. Seeing Kyle and Oliver (and Scott/Brett too) just gave me hope that if I can just make the effort to finish college and move on with my life that I can find that special guy and have the great relationship that these two have. |
| Deletemyprofileplease | Mar 11 2010, 01:45 AM Post #596 |
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DON'T MAKE ME GO GAGA ON YOUR ASS, ABCD!!!!
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its sorta embarrassing how this is affecting me... It's been so long since I've actually cried over something...I don't know why i am now... Maybe it's just a lot of pent up things too... |
| luv4kish | Mar 11 2010, 02:07 AM Post #597 |
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Didn't Scott talk about getting his own dressing room after the move over to the All My Children set? Why would they not let both BC and SE in on the direction of their storyline was going? Having to find out from someone other then they bosses is humilating? (I think that is the worst part for me. That they had so little respect for both the boys!) I think it's going to be a hard day when they have to go clean out their dressing room? Hopefully the rest of the cast will support them and give them alots of hugs that use fans wish we could give them! LOVE KISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| j.U.d.E. | Mar 11 2010, 02:14 AM Post #598 |
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Cosmic socks!
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I'm still so very gutted because of this! I had 2 hours of sleep and am supposed to go to work now.. I will have no problem ditching OLTL come April. I never really watched it, but only for KISH since June. I'll drop it like a hot potatoe in an instant. |
| ilovesoaps | Mar 11 2010, 02:39 AM Post #599 |
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Me too, I only watched for Kish. After there gone so am I. What I'm most sad about though is the way they treated Brett and Scott. They deserve better than that. |
| KIsh4ever | Mar 11 2010, 02:55 AM Post #600 |
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I went to bed at 3.30am this morning, had three hours sleep before i had to get up to go to work. and i still don't feel any better about whats happened!!! Still pissed off, still upset, still angry that two wonderful actors/people have been treated with such little respect, and that we've lost Kish forever!!! :annoyed: I read Brett's quote from the song and that just made me feel :waah: Frons is a COWARD, and RC/FV are no better!!! Brett and Scott deserve so much better. |
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