| Welcome to Kishmet. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Fish bisexual?; tptb making Fish stradling two fences? | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 15 2009, 09:28 PM (702 Views) | |
| aries34 | Aug 16 2009, 08:22 AM Post #11 |
![]()
|
I don't think he's bi or ambi, I think he's straight gay (oxymoron I know) and can't deal with it. The look on his face with Layla spelled pure relief to me. Relief that if he can have sex with a woman and enjoy it than he's not gay. He doesn't have any romantic, emotional feelings for Layla. He has those for Kyle. He fantasized Kyle while kissing Layla. He's got himself so petrified of coming out that he's gay that he's willing to be anything to avoid it. Otherwise he wouldn't have told Kyle that he would be a huge "disappointment" to others if he acted on his feelings for Kyle. He's so beyond uncomfortable getting close to Layla that it was a huge sense of relief (that he's not gay) just to sleep with her. It's an internal struggle with himself due to how he was brought up. He knows he's gay but can't accept it and until something happens to force the issue he will continue to sleep with women. |
| Tashlover | Aug 16 2009, 09:10 AM Post #12 |
![]()
|
Precisely. He was relieved because he thinks the act of having sex with women is a sign that he is not gay which helps reinforce his thinking. I think some people are very confused about men on the down low who are repressing their sexuality. I've never heard that those men hated having sex with women. It's just that they prefer men which has been quite clear with Fish. |
| jsg03jd | Aug 16 2009, 09:24 AM Post #13 |
|
Global Moderator
|
SOW's Mala Bhattacharjee's thoughts on the topic: http://badnecklace.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/soaps-sense-sexuality/ |
| aries34 | Aug 16 2009, 09:58 AM Post #14 |
![]()
|
i think it's more the emotional aspect of the whole thing as opposed to the physical aspect. Any gay guy can sleep with any gay/straight woman if it means not having to deal with (in Fish's case - accept) that they're gay. Just because you can commit the act of sex doesn't mean your heart is in it. It's the same with straight people. He slept with Layla to prove to himself that he's not gay (still not working) but his heart and mind are with Kyle. That won't change. And Layla is also in denial because deep down she knows something is off but that would mean admitting yet another man isn't going to work out. And I really don't think she sees Cris that way at this point. |
| aries34 | Aug 16 2009, 10:01 AM Post #15 |
![]()
|
Excellent way to explain it. |
| appleridge | Aug 16 2009, 10:07 AM Post #16 |
|
I also loved that ed-op piece |
| Zuki | Aug 16 2009, 11:38 AM Post #17 |
|
I agree. Everything we have seen so far seems to indicate that Fish is gay. All his intimate scenes with Layla have been really akward for him. I think the reason why he was so relaxed and comfortable the morning after, is because he is beginning to believe that he can actually make this relationship work. Of course that feeling won't last.. |
| Tashlover | Aug 16 2009, 12:35 PM Post #18 |
![]()
|
http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/one-life-to-l...d=703678&tsn=51 http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/one-life-to-l...id=706458&tsn=1 I went to investigate these claims raised in the SOC double standard thread about Layla being bashed by Kish fans and what I found is that there is a contingent of "Lish" fans (Layla and Fish fans) battling with Kish fans over Fish's sexuality on that board. I'm going to say that most of the Lish support is agenda driven by the fans who want Crave back but there are some genuine fans who are invovled. I would not bring this up because the people who have an issue with Cayla up until this point, had no bearing on Kish fans. But now that there are Lish fans vying in competition on that board with Kish fans, there seems to be an issue that people are provoking. The point I'm making is that the argument has escalated into a mini war where Kish fans on that board feel like Fish has been unfairly attacked by Lish fans for his actions against Layla. In retaliation, one of the arguments raised by some of the Kish fans was that Layla's desperation and sexuality is a factor in this story which is actually a very valid point because that is what is happening. Edited by Tashlover, Aug 16 2009, 08:26 PM.
|
| jsg03jd | Aug 16 2009, 07:25 PM Post #19 |
|
Global Moderator
|
This sounds awfully reminiscent of the early Nuke days when a fanbase was starting to develop for Noah and Maddie. Except that Kish is about a trillion times better told thanks to the higher caliber of writing on OLTL not found in ATWT. Personally, I'm glad there are these mini wars by fanbases. As long as everyone keeps watching the show, it's a win-win situation. Almost everyone has valid points to make, which illustrates just how much more complicated each of the characters' struggles are in this storyline. It's not a cut and dry proposition for any of the players involved. |
| knowhimsowell | Aug 16 2009, 08:02 PM Post #20 |
|
I think there are so many valid points here and I really wanted to discuss the fact that maybe the writers based on many LISH fans would try to tweek the story a little. I feel fundamentally he is gay or he wouldn't be trying so hard. However, this is a soap opera and I've seen some strange changes in storylines due to fan pressure. Look at Phylis and Nick. They were hot and then things changed and we see Nick professing love for Sharon. (I'm still recovering from whiplash) Many people do want to see Layla and Fish together, which I don't get. As cute as they are, they can't match the hotness of KISH! |
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Kish: Kyle & Fish · Next Topic » |




1:05 PM Jul 11