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| Fish bisexual?; tptb making Fish stradling two fences? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 15 2009, 09:28 PM (699 Views) | |
| knowhimsowell | Aug 15 2009, 09:28 PM Post #1 |
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Based on all the heated discussion about Fish having sex with Layla and seeming to enjoy it, I am wondering if he is bisexual. Any thoughts? :dunno: |
| Kyle_Lewis_Lover | Aug 15 2009, 09:58 PM Post #2 |
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I was wondering that myself. It is very possible, but perhaps he merely pretended to enjoy it so he could hide his feelings for Kyle. Fish even flash backed to Christian saying that "He better tell Layla or he will." Hmm, we'll have to see! =] |
| appleridge | Aug 15 2009, 10:13 PM Post #3 |
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Brett, Scott Even HW, Ron C said Fish is Gay. This is a coming to terms with oneself & A rediscovery of the love between Kyle & Oliver
Edited by appleridge, Aug 15 2009, 10:13 PM.
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| SomaGuy | Aug 15 2009, 11:22 PM Post #4 |
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I was wondering if maybe they were going to make that happen, as well. It certainly would be different and interesting, but it appears at least from all interviews, that Fish is not bisexual but deeply closeted and gay. |
| Nukester | Aug 15 2009, 11:52 PM Post #5 |
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The correct term is "ambi-sexual." "Bi-sexual" means 50/50 and that's not what the writers are suggesting. "Ambi" means more or less. He's neither a Kinsey zero nor six on the sexuality scale. A Zero could be so heterosexual he can't even kiss his own son, whereas a Six might be so gay that the idea of opposite sex genitalia makes him/her nautious. Actually, the majority of people in America are ambi-sexual even if they don't consciously know it. It has to do with ALL levels of stimulous: fantascy, dream, behavior, and desire. One might desire and/or dream of same-sex encounters, but repress the behavior (which doesn't make one "straight). One might also fantasize occasional heterosexual acts, but be unable to perform them for any number of reasons (not keeping one in the Gay community). Statistics show most people are at least some-what flexible over their lifetimes. If Oliver wasn't, he couldn't rise to the occasion. There have been a number of studies that show many Gay/Lesbian people make an effort to engage in opposite-sex behavior, but ultimately concede it's not as gratifying as what their natural inclination pulls them toward. The same holds true in the opposite direction. Fish is ambisexual. And that's not a bad place to be. |
| blur | Aug 16 2009, 12:02 AM Post #6 |
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Did he really enjoy it? How are we even supposed to know? He could be happy more in a 'Wow I REALLY did it!' or 'Finally this chore is over' kind of way. |
| SomaGuy | Aug 16 2009, 01:17 AM Post #7 |
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Well, not to split too many hairs, but actually bisexual and ambisexual are also synonyms (according to merriam webster and a few other dictionaries), with bisexual being the modern, preferred term. In any case, I'm gonna stick with the term bisexual, cause that's what most people use. It's entirely possible that Fish is bi, but merely having sex with a woman doesn't make it so, at least not in my book or for most of the folks I know. I have met plenty of guys who identify as kinsey sixes but have in their life had sex with women and they would never consider themselves bisexual. They may have participated in a heterosexual act, but that doesn't make them either straight or bi. And I have met a few guys who have had sex with men, discovered it wasn't really for them and consider themselves straight. The bi folks I know really are bi. Anyone who is not either a Kinsey 6 or 0 is not by default bisexual. Generally, people get to identify themselves rather than have some kinsey number or specific act classify them for all time. Heck, I'm fine if Oliver figures out he's bisexual, but all indications so far is that he's a closeted gay guy forcing himself to comport to a heterosexual life. |
| strangeAwareness | Aug 16 2009, 01:53 AM Post #8 |
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I think Fish's mentality is important here to- he sees sex with women as part of his way of becoming someone entirely different, part of the cover, and while he may enjoy the cover it is still a cover. Physically he may respond to women but how he thinks of them and his relationship with them is all off. The way he can best come to terms with himself seems to be with another man. If you're talking about physical reactions alone he might be bisexual but then I think a lot of people are in that regard, emotionally and mentally however I don't think he is. And after all, like all labels or identities all he can do is make a generalization about himself.
Edited by strangeAwareness, Aug 16 2009, 02:15 AM.
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| staticradar | Aug 16 2009, 05:48 AM Post #9 |
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I think he's gay not bi. Just because you CAN sleep with a woman doesn't mean that you're straight/bi/ambi. In Fish's case he's just in such deep denial and a deep need to be straight. He did what he had to do, in other words. I'm sure it can't compare to what he and Kyle shared and did. I'm hoping we find that out though. |
| appleridge | Aug 16 2009, 07:11 AM Post #10 |
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ITA!!!! |
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