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Topic Started: Aug 14 2008, 03:23 AM (230 Views)
Mauro
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Okay, here's the story, I made a skill called wall stick (and it got deleted by someone, after it was acepted.) and Genzo seemed to think that I stole his idea, the convo (cbox so it starts at the bottom) starts when I saw it was deleted.

14 Aug 08, 01:11
Hilariouslink: ?
14 Aug 08, 01:10
Hilariouslink: ...
14 Aug 08, 01:08
Hilariouslink: ?
14 Aug 08, 01:08
Hilariouslink: Okay James, what's your side of the story
14 Aug 08, 01:08
Hilariouslink: >_>
14 Aug 08, 01:05
Dr. Genzo: Well now I have nothing to do. *goes to bed*
14 Aug 08, 01:02
Dr. Genzo: dammit THIEF, you've taken this too far
14 Aug 08, 01:02
James: nd i can still say 'no, go fsck yourself retard'
14 Aug 08, 01:02
Dr. Genzo: I can still say "quiet THIEF"
14 Aug 08, 01:01
James: you're just some pain in the ass who seems to have a brain made of sponge
14 Aug 08, 01:01
James: you can't do anything to me
14 Aug 08, 01:01
James: or what?
14 Aug 08, 01:00
Dr. Genzo: quiet, THIEF
14 Aug 08, 01:00
James: its not even the same fscking idea you moron
14 Aug 08, 00:59
Dr. Genzo: He stole my precious idea
14 Aug 08, 00:59
James: HL I'm not slealing anything., Genzo is just retarded
14 Aug 08, 00:59
Hilariouslink: WHERETF IS HE STEALING?
14 Aug 08, 00:59
Hilariouslink: WTF IS HE STEALING!?
14 Aug 08, 00:59
Dr. Genzo: quit bugging me THEIF
14 Aug 08, 00:59
James: just fscking try it
14 Aug 08, 00:58
Dr. Genzo: *changes James' name to THIEF like in LA*
14 Aug 08, 00:58
James: :wtf: I'm not trying to piss you off I'm trying to get you to stfu and stop accusing me of stuff I'm not doing
14 Aug 08, 00:57
Dr. Genzo: He's trying so hard to piss me off, and it's working. :angry:
14 Aug 08, 00:57
James: sit there and talk shit all you want genzo, I never stole anything
14 Aug 08, 00:56
Hilariouslink: What's going on?
14 Aug 08, 00:56
Dr. Genzo: No more mercy on my part if he won't get over it
14 Aug 08, 00:56
Hilariouslink: Who what where?
14 Aug 08, 00:56
James: I'M NOT fscking STEALING
14 Aug 08, 00:55
Dr. Genzo: Now he's stealing in front of me @_@
14 Aug 08, 00:55
Hilariouslink: :haa:
14 Aug 08, 00:55
Hilariouslink: That emoticon.
14 Aug 08, 00:55
Hilariouslink: Add some of the :haa:
14 Aug 08, 00:55
Hilariouslink: :haa"
14 Aug 08, 00:55
Dr. Genzo: some... what?
14 Aug 08, 00:54
James: Fien I'm reposting it
14 Aug 08, 00:54
Hilariouslink: And it'll be perfect
14 Aug 08, 00:54
Hilariouslink: Add some :haa:
14 Aug 08, 00:53
Dr. Genzo: I honestly haven't played too far in MM though
14 Aug 08, 00:53
Dr. Genzo: They're Zelda people
14 Aug 08, 00:53
Dr. Genzo: Garos aren't actual ninja you know
14 Aug 08, 00:52
Dr. Genzo: I deleted the spam in the FoPaD topic
14 Aug 08, 00:51
Dr. Genzo: But the last thing I deleted was some flaming posts by adad
14 Aug 08, 00:51
James: srsly its not the same spell >_>
14 Aug 08, 00:50
Dr. Genzo: yez
14 Aug 08, 00:50
Dr. Genzo: >.>
14 Aug 08, 00:50
James: but I think I get your joke in the parody now
14 Aug 08, 00:49
James: 'twas not theft
14 Aug 08, 00:49
Dr. Genzo: Maybe some weirdo saw my post and deleted it for theft
14 Aug 08, 00:49
Hilariouslink: lol
14 Aug 08, 00:49
James: well if you never deleted it who did?
14 Aug 08, 00:49
Dr. Genzo: I only posted in it.
14 Aug 08, 00:49
James: suar it wasn't
14 Aug 08, 00:48
Hilariouslink: :P
14 Aug 08, 00:48
Dr. Genzo: OHSHI-
14 Aug 08, 00:48
Dr. Genzo: Wasn't me I swear
14 Aug 08, 00:48
James: my wall stick skill D:<
14 Aug 08, 00:48
James: *glares at Geeen*
14 Aug 08, 00:48
Dr. Genzo: huh
14 Aug 08, 00:47
James: OKAY WHO DELETED IT

He was the one flamming me constantly, just because I got PO'd and said one little thing, I get banned? If anything Genzo should be banned.
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Personally, about the ability that was "stolen," I think you should both drop it. It's only an ability. Even if he did copy you, it wasn't no Fan-fic, now was it. (Even that sounds too insignificant.) Sure it was similar, but it doesn't automatically mean that he (James) looked at your (Genzo) ability, then copy and pasted. He (James) was probably thinking of things ninjas could do and therefore, made the ability, but even if he (James) did "steal" it, remember that it's just an ability. You (Genzo) had no patent for it anyways and besides, you get no reward for making the ability beyond learning it anyways.

So in otherwords, about that thing, I prefer that you both either drop it or take it to G-mail or PMs, but personally, I think a supposed stolen ability is a stupid thing to fight over.

As for what should be done (if anything), I'm not so keen on member issues and all, so I'll let someone else handle that, though, I think the worse case should be a warning or strike towards possibly being demoted. A ban sounds way too strict and should only be used for much more extreme incidents imo.
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Are you saying Genzo flamed you in this conversation? o.O

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Are these two topics related?

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Aug 14 2008, 10:43 AM
Are you saying Genzo flamed you in this conversation? o.O

Yes, he flammed, I retaliated, he got PO'd because I wasn't just sitting there and taking it and banned e for it.

(damn my M key ia a bit dodgy these days)

@Adaar: Someone eleted a skill of mine and I guessed it was genzo, he denied it so I dropped it. He started saying stuff about how I"stole" the skill (which I didn't) and then started reffering to me as 'THEIF' and well you can get the basic idea from the cbox chat.

Aanywho, this basically sums up what happened

Genzo: *punches James* THIEF

James: *punches back* GODDAMIT IM NOT A THIEF

Genzo: Lolol b&
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Maybe you shouldn't have cursed out a mod if you didn't want a ban. >.>
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James, I've had this exact same thing happen with me. Remember when I got cbox banned for calling Navi b!tch and attention whore while she started everything and was unrelentingly taunting me with a nickname then when used out of context wouldn't be considered harmful.

Thus they'll overlook all Genzo's faults because he's a mod (and Navi was a clear favorite in my case considering several factors and the fact that people are unwilling to forgot the past) by posting this you basically condemned yourself.
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Aug 14 2008, 02:07 PM
James, I've had this exact same thing happen with me. Remember when I got cbox banned for calling Navi b!tch and attention whore while she started everything and was unrelentingly taunting me with a nickname then when used out of context wouldn't be considered harmful.

Thus they'll overlook all Genzo's faults because he's a mod (and Navi was a clear favorite in my case considering several factors and the fact that people are unwilling to forgot the past) by posting this you basically condemned yourself.
I know, Bud, I know.

@Genzo: Well maybe the mod could've been less of a dick if he didn't want cussed out, I swear give people just a little bit of power and they immediately think they have to abuse it.
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I don't think Genzo is at fault though really. It seems to me your all attacking him. YOU ((James)) were the one that pointed your finger blaming him for somehing you had no clue if he did or not. All he did was defend himself.

To me from reading that log though, it seems your flaming was much worse then his. IF you can even call it flaming on his part.
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There might be a problem here, on Genzo. You didn't try to resolve the problem, nor did you bring up the fact in the staff section that you banned him. And don't think that just because you're staff that means you get away with things members wouldn't, you're here to make sure things go smoothly, not keep insults going. BOTH of you are idiots for not bringing this to an admin sooner and instead argued with each other. Next time keep a level head.
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Aug 14 2008, 03:21 PM
I don't think Genzo is at fault though really. It seems to me your all attacking him. YOU ((James)) were the one that pointed your finger blaming him for somehing you had no clue if he did or not. All he did was defend himself.

To me from reading that log though, it seems your flaming was much worse then his. IF you can even call it flaming on his part.
Nolan: I never actually accused him, more asked him if he did it, then joked that he did it anyway, you weren't there >_> plus when I asked 'well if it wans't you, who was it?' there was no mention of that for the rest of the chat. and at your other coment, Sitting there and calling someone a thief endlessly IS flamming Nolan, and all I did was deny it, even if it was slightly violent. He was as bad as e, at least, yet I'm the one who ends up banned because staff get away with murder these days. Speaking of my ban, how much fscking longer am I gonna be banned?
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Sorry I haven't been attending my hearing, your honor. My connection is bad because my brother is researching jewish people again.

I'm dreadfully sorry I didn't record the banning in the staff section. I fell asleep before I realized my mistake.

By the way, if you haven't learned about it yet, there exists a crime called plagiarism.

Plagiarism - 1. the unautorized use of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own. (from Random House Webster's College Dictionary)

Usually in at least the senior year of high school one learns about plagiarism. If you take note, plagiarism doesn't necessarily mean to copy-paste, but also can apply to a general idea. Perhaps is "James" had asked me if I could make a similar skill for Garos or asked me first if he could make his own version, I wouldn't feel criminally violated. In the words of my teacher, Dr. Suski, "plagiarism is worse than theft or even murder" is along the lines of what he taught.

I think Thief should apologize if he wants his name back.
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Once again, not acting like staff, calling him thief. Find time to discuss with one another either through PM or some sort of IM program, gmail, whatever. Don't bring this into the chatbox again. If either of you feel the need to, bring this to the attention of an administrator.
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Genzo, even though I had no intention to steal any of your ideas, and you have some deluded idea that I did, if it'll get you to stfu and quit acting like I've murdered one of your family members, I'm sorry.
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Genzo, even though I had no intention to steal any of your ideas, and you have some deluded idea that I did, if it'll get you to stfu and quit acting like I've murdered one of your family members, I'm sorry.
Thanks James! You apologized!!

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Okay you have permission to create an upside-down skill now.
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THATS THE POINT! IT WASN'T EVEN AN UPSIDE DOWN SKILL D:< IT WAS MAINLY FOR WALLS, HENCE THE NAME.
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Aug 14 2008, 05:47 PM
THATS THE POINT! IT WASN'T EVEN AN UPSIDE DOWN SKILL D:< IT WAS MAINLY FOR WALLS, HENCE THE NAME.
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Maybe I didn't read it right...

But yeah, SilverJ wall-runs all the time. I think a Garo can do that anyway... >.>
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Nonono, shtick on teh wall, nawt wallrun.
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You two should be slapped with a large rubber sponge for your idiocy, then be forced to stand in the Town Square while passerby's throw small rocks in your general direction.

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While Genzo is correct on the definition of Plagiarism, there is still the fact that neither of your works are copy written or in any way legally linked to you. That being said... NEVER delete peoples posts unless it is rudely offensive (having your feelings slightly hurt because somebody (supposedly) 'stole' your idea doesn't count). If there's something wrong with it, do like Azul said and bring it up in the staff section.

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Aug 14 2008, 06:37 PM
You two should be slapped with a large rubber sponge for your idiocy, then be forced to stand in the Town Square while passerby's throw small rocks in your general direction.

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While Genzo is correct on the definition of Plagiarism, there is still the fact that neither of your works are copy written or in any way legally linked to you. That being said... NEVER delete peoples posts unless it is rudely offensive (having your feelings slightly hurt because somebody (supposedly) 'stole' your idea doesn't count). If there's something wrong with it, do like Azul said and bring it up in the staff section.

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