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Topic Started: May 21 2012, 01:31 PM (2,487 Views)
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What is your opinion of it?
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Greatest thing since sliced bread.
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KingofdaHipHop
May 21 2012, 04:09 PM
Greatest thing since sliced bread.
You must like it man of the people.
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man i delevopeled al real advanced theory on this: so they be trying to take other peoples money and, but then they mess with the wrong people and they get shot and then they build all they country but it be bad and not good and then they get shot by this guy in front of and night club while coleccting protection money then they all get dead am i right??

commies is like saddam hussein, osama bin larden, and mahmood amadenehedejad
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I will admit I don't know too much about stuff like this, so everything I type will be from the relatively small perspective I have. Anyway:

The ideal itself is great, but it has flaws that go against human nature itself, and therefore will not succeed, and people shouldn't try and make it work, because it will go wrong. Ideals and systems like communism will only work if 100% of the people stand behind it and make it work, which, in practise, will never happen. The impression I get from it is that once a single person stops supporting the system, it will collapse.
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UnitRico
May 21 2012, 05:39 PM
I will admit I don't know too much about stuff like this, so everything I type will be from the relatively small perspective I have. Anyway:

The ideal itself is great, but it has flaws that go against human nature itself, and therefore will not succeed, and people shouldn't try and make it work, because it will go wrong. Ideals and systems like communism will only work if 100% of the people stand behind it and make it work, which, in practise, will never happen. The impression I get from it is that once a single person stops supporting the system, it will collapse.
Can someone explain why a failed idea is great? That makes exactly zero sense.

The thing I hate the most is when the best thing someone can say is that Communism works in theory and that's absolute bullshit. If something only works in the theoretical world you've created in your mind then you've refused to allow for one or more variables, such as human nature. The very basis of Communism is that there are no classes, no government. But it ignores the fact that humans are very much power hungry. If there is a power vacuum, as true Communism would create by eliminating government, someone, like Stalin in the Soviet Union, would try to fill that vacuum by placing themselves in charge and thus destroying true Communism before it's created.

China is the natural outcome of any attempt of Communism. The Government takes the place of those that Communists rail against: Capitalists and it now even worse because there's absolutely no hope for recourse under law because the man carrying the whip is carrying it at the behest of those which that recourse would normally come from.

Communism is the ultimate con job for those who want power because it tricks the working class into thinking that they're being saved from tyrants but in reality they're only trading one overseer for another.
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Exactly, Communism in an Utopian world would work perfectly... However Utopia doesn't exist. Therefore in practice Communism is a bad idea... This is the same reason why socialism has its flaws and detractors... It works best in Utopia.
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Elso579
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Yeah I agree with most of the above statements It may work in a small community but not a large nation which is why the USSR fell and why China and N. Korea will eventually fall. If not by there own nucleur threats.
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But if you look at the history of "Communist Nations", none of them achieved Communism, you ended up with Cults of Personality and terror states. The main problem is that you cannot have economic equality without the rights of humanity being regarded absolutely. The problem with that is that when people can speak their minds freely, economic democracy falters, because there will always be dissatisfied people. So Communism looks wonderful on paper, but cannot work because it either fails outright, or de-evolves into a nightmarish police state.
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May 21 2012, 04:09 PM
Greatest thing since sliced bread.
Great. Move to China.
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