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Abortion; Do you think it's right?
Topic Started: Jan 30 2008, 02:21 PM (220 Views)
Divesse	Jan 30 2008, 02:21 PM Post #1
Administrator Posts: 166 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jan 30, 2008	I don't think it's right at all. Only under certain circumstances do I consider abortion to be a viable option. These three circumstances below are the ones that abortion is a viable option for (and two of them, abortion may be the ONLY option). 1) If having the baby endangers both the mother AND the baby's lives, 2) If the girl has been raped, and she feels the child in her womb is a further violation of her own personal right to security, and 3) If the mother has done enough drugs while the child is in the womb that the child will end up becoming a vegetable when he/she is born. Other than that, I think abortion is wrong. Not only does it kill the child, it can also destroy the mother's psyche and at the most extreme level of guilt, leave her unable to function through life normally. Now who would want that? This also begs the question of the accountability and responsibility of the mother. Two things bug me about the abortion. Remember, I am talking about the woman who IS in her right mind and ISN'T planning to get pregnant. 1) Any woman in her right mind who isn't trying to get pregnant would take some form of birth control. She would also check the quality of her boyfriend/husband's protection. 2) If she doesn't want the child, then she shouldn't have it killed. She should carry the baby to a term as far as she can, then have the baby. And if she doesn't want the child then, or doesn't think she can handle the responsibility of taking care of the child, she should put it up for adoption. Any woman who has some decency in her would put a child up for adoption if she doesn't want it or think she can handle the responsibility. Abortion is for the woman who doesn't care about anyone (not even her own child) but herself, and I think that's just wrong. Any other thoughts?



Eiichi	Jan 31 2008, 07:47 PM Post #2
Posts: 72 Group: Co-Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 31, 2008	I am against abortion. It is wrong to abort because it's like murder, you're killing a poor baby. Even if someone gets raped then they have to deal with the consequences.



dhruv	Feb 10 2008, 02:51 PM Post #3
Posts: 53 Group: Co-Admins Member #3 Joined: Feb 10, 2008	I would make a girl abort a baby if it was now because of family and it would ruin my life.



jae	Feb 12 2008, 12:44 PM Post #4
Posts: 95 Group: Global Moderators Member #6 Joined: Feb 12, 2008	I find it hard to justify abortion the only time it would be feasible would be if there was something wrong with it.



Divesse	Feb 12 2008, 03:19 PM Post #5
Administrator Posts: 166 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jan 30, 2008	I agree. But on the second circumstance (if the woman feels like having a child in her womb further violates her security after she's been raped), abortion isn't the only option. She could carry the baby to a term as far as possible, have the baby, then put the child up for adoption straight away. But here's where I say that abortion may be the ONLY option. Circumstance 1: If having the baby kills BOTH the mother and her baby, and Circumstance 3: If the woman carrying the fetus in her womb is so doped up on drugs that when the child is born, the child will end up a vegetable for the rest of his/her life. But circumstance 3 CAN be avoided if the mother remains vigilant and does NOT do drugs while the child is in her womb. This includes smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol as well. So that leaves only circumstance 1 that I would stand by for abortion being feasible. Other than that, I am still against abortion if it isn't necessary, which most times, it isn't.



Top Kirby	Feb 13 2008, 12:01 AM Post #6
Posts: 33 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: Feb 11, 2008	Nope I'm against it. If people do it, they should be responsible enough to wear protection. They need to stop being so damn careless and watch what they are doing.
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jae	Feb 13 2008, 06:08 AM Post #7
Posts: 95 Group: Global Moderators Member #6 Joined: Feb 12, 2008	Divesse Feb 12 2008, 03:19 PM I agree. But on the second circumstance (if the woman feels like having a child in her womb further violates her security after she's been raped), abortion isn't the only option. She could carry the baby to a term as far as possible, have the baby, then put the child up for adoption straight away. But here's where I say that abortion may be the ONLY option. Circumstance 1: If having the baby kills BOTH the mother and her baby, and Circumstance 3: If the woman carrying the fetus in her womb is so doped up on drugs that when the child is born, the child will end up a vegetable for the rest of his/her life. But circumstance 3 CAN be avoided if the mother remains vigilant and does NOT do drugs while the child is in her womb. This includes smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol as well. So that leaves only circumstance 1 that I would stand by for abortion being feasible. Other than that, I am still against abortion if it isn't necessary, which most times, it isn't. An where does genetic inbalances come into that statement, would it not be easier and kinder to terminate a child who has a serious defect if the women can not cope with said problems?



Divesse	Feb 13 2008, 10:46 AM Post #8
Administrator Posts: 166 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jan 30, 2008	Well, it would certainly be easier to terminate a child with a serious defect, but it wouldn't be any kinder to do so. Let's take a look at some of the serious defects, as you say, around the country/around the world. Children with cerebral palsy, children with seizures, children with a missing limb or deformed limbs. There are even children with deformed faces around. Some of these children were born with these defects. If you decide to kill these children before they have a chance to live life, that's no kinder than simply aborting a child just because you don't want the child. A loving, nurturing environment with parents more than determined to give these children a chance at life is key here. Even if the mother who gave birth decides to put these children up for adoption. There are even orphanages and other special places for these children if the mother doesn't want them, and/or if nobody wants to adopt them. And chances are good that these places are government funded, so we don't have to pay for these services, or at the very least we can pay an affordable rate for them. And to me, that's all the more reason NOT to have an abortion.



Eiichi	Feb 13 2008, 05:32 PM Post #9
Posts: 72 Group: Co-Admins Member #2 Joined: Jan 31, 2008	Top Kirby Feb 13 2008, 12:01 AM Nope I'm against it. If people do it, they should be responsible enough to wear protection. They need to stop being so damn careless and watch what they are doing. I agree with you, now a days people are too careless and do what ever they feel like doing without thinking.



jae	Feb 14 2008, 07:54 AM Post #10
Posts: 95 Group: Global Moderators Member #6 Joined: Feb 12, 2008	Divesse Feb 13 2008, 10:46 AM Well, it would certainly be easier to terminate a child with a serious defect, but it wouldn't be any kinder to do so. Let's take a look at some of the serious defects, as you say, around the country/around the world. Children with cerebral palsy, children with seizures, children with a missing limb or deformed limbs. There are even children with deformed faces around. Some of these children were born with these defects. If you decide to kill these children before they have a chance to live life, that's no kinder than simply aborting a child just because you don't want the child. A loving, nurturing environment with parents more than determined to give these children a chance at life is key here. Even if the mother who gave birth decides to put these children up for adoption. There are even orphanages and other special places for these children if the mother doesn't want them, and/or if nobody wants to adopt them. And chances are good that these places are government funded, so we don't have to pay for these services, or at the very least we can pay an affordable rate for them. And to me, that's all the more reason NOT to have an abortion. Surely we are not talking about people who have a loving kindness to their children or unborn babies; defect or not who in all likelyhood would look after their children regardless, we are more talking of those who have no regard for completley healthy children let alone children with the problems you specify. it is ok for people of countries like the USA, UK, Canada, Australia and the like who have services that have been stated for these children for when their mothers do not want them or can not look after them for whatever reason van be helped, but others such as some African nations and many other who can not or will not supply services that we in the weastern world take for granted (not sure that the right word but) these children can and have been murdered or left in the street to die or in some cases various types of rape/tiorture, how are these children better off being born? I have been extremely fortunate with my children in respects that all of then are healthy but had that not been the case they would still have been loved in the same way, We must all make our own decisions in life and those that make a decision to abort must live with that for the rest of their lives, that said the option should still be available, we can not go back in time and stop the first abortion from being perform so must live with the fact that abortion is part of a modern civilisation.



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