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| Topic Started: May 26 2009, 02:09 PM (114 Views) | |
| Moussiffer | May 26 2009, 02:09 PM Post #1 |
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It came to my attention the The Source doesnt have the spell casting ability anymore. I was wondering why. I mean, in the show, there are many examples of the Source using spells. Even though he himself was a demon. (Cole and the older Source) I think most notably was his ability to call the Hollow to him from its box. (Other powerful demons could cast spells as well, like Zankou and I believe Cole as well) I think The Source should get this ability back. Also, I'm not sure if this was removed from him or not, but I think he should also be able to reconstitute. Seeing as how he could in the show as well. Generally I think, as the leader of the underworld, he should be over powered. And this should bring about new powers being added to the Power Brokers, Or new special powers being able to be given by Players with the Power Broker Rank, so that they can match The Source, and be a challenge for him. Like the Charmed Ones, Zankou, Cole, ETC. In watching Charmed, you begin to notice that people with higher "Ranks" In the magical world. Tend to have more powers. Not just of there own skill sets. But multiple different ones. Kind of randomly thrown into the mix. I suspect this is because the more formidably you become, the more powers you collect to keep up with the challenge of defending yourself agaisnt others, but also controling others and being more powerful. So that give's The Source, and the Power Broker, ranks something new. And the NPC Power Brokers as well. Dark Elders should also be able to reconstitute. It just seems kind of... Like the next step in there powers. I mean. Dark Lighters are pretty much the exact opposite of Whitelighters. Even in there orbs and attacks. Whitelighters hand can heal, Dark lighters hands can kill. Whitelighters orbs are blue, Darklighters orbs are purplish black. I would think that a Dark Lighter that was that powerful. as a Dark Elder, should be able to reconstitute. I also think Charmed Ones should get something extra as well. Perhaps if they dont already get this. Special spells that only thye can use. Or maybe getting the Charmed Rank unlocks a random power for them. completely random. And then it can be added to there story as a power from a past life or something. Not to make them over powered, but to give some kind of good reason why people should pick that rank. I think people tend to go more for evil ranks because they actually get special abilities and interesting powers. Good ranks really dont get anything unless you are a Elder... And then since you are a pacifist you cant do anything with them and are stuck in heaven for the most part. Perhaps maybe all ranks will have the ability to unlock a power from theyour past(Not like from your past in the sense of reincarnation, although that might be cool, but from your "past" like a past life. The Charmed Ones were able to tap into powers form there past lives before. This would just be something more perminate.) Alchemist... Where do I begin... Alchemist really dont have any reason to be in the game. They are basically just advanced potion makers. And certains have Alchemy powers anyway. So having it as a rank makes no sense. Not to mention no one really goes around training to be an Alchemist. Most people dont even know what it is. Perhaps that should be changed into some kind of random ability that you can be born with or get at class level 5. As an extention to my earlier suggestion about Power Brokers. I was thinking. Why do the Power Brokers sell Demonic powers? I mean... Im sure they dont go around killing each other for there powers. Power Brokers should sell witch powers. Or atleast the powers of good beings. Because, logically and in the relm of common sense. They are the people more likely to be killed for there powers. And since Demons and Warlocks, and other evil evil being are always looking for more powers, they would pay top dollar for some good abilities witches had.... Also, I think Power Brokers, should be able to extrack powers from the people they kill. As well as infect people with powers. Like in the show. It would be interesting to see players with a added power like Paige or that woman had, for alittle while and then eventually either be killed, or have the power broker extract it. Of cource for a price. This power would be more for RP purposes. Much like the rank itself. Im sure there are more things that could be updated and or changed. But im drawing a black right now. Although.... Im sure eventually I will come up with more. Questions and/or comments would be nice. I think these are some pretty decent ideas. As well as some others that ive talked to. They are definitely worthy of being added. Seeing as how they can only help out more. Next I'll probably start thinking up some kind of special ranks for good.... Something better then what we have now. Good is really lagging behind on that front. |
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| SyncWolf | Jun 1 2009, 09:08 AM Post #2 |
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I'm actually not sure wether the source still has spellcasting or not, but i understand the reson why it should. However if i did remove it, which once again i cannot confirm, that it has been for the reason of to many demons casting spells to vanquish others instead of actually using their own powers. The Source should still be able to reconstitute from molecular combustion. The Source and most big ranks (except CO) do get several powers, for the Source this is mainly fire powers, but i recall getting shapeshifting and telekinesis as well. But nothing i can confirm atm. As alwys the demonic mrket cn expand their powers if needed. On a sidenote, one of the recent updates actually added some more random powers for all races. This currently exists out of 3 packages. - Molecular Immunity: Adjust + Reconstitute - Spellcasting: Spellcasting + potionmaking (No alchemy) - Teleportation: Teleport Other (place) + Force Visibility More of these kind of packges might be added in the future, these packages are rare and only given to class 5 players. As for the dark elders, they were based on the parralel universe Elders. So they aren't official and their powers are self choosen when they were made, giving them reconstitute seems fair to me. The Charmed Ones currently have 2 or 3 exclusive spells in the BoS. Aside from having an exclusive house i do remember them gaining something else. Not sure what though. I do not agree to giving them something different when it comes to powers. Alchemist is a small rank, nothing specific but just provides roleplaying purpose. I've seen plenty of people roleplaying as alchemists already. The rank just allows for one who doesn't already have it to gain it. The demonic market is actually a place where demons and such exchange their own collected powers, very little demons gain witch powers to trade off. Actully adding these would overpower the demons alot. Thats my comment for now, i'll try to keep my eye on the forum more for possible updates on this. |
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| Moussiffer | Jun 2 2009, 12:54 AM Post #3 |
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"The demonic market is actually a place where demons and such exchange their own collected powers, very little demons gain witch powers to trade off. Actully adding these would overpower the demons alot." In the show, demons went on witch Wars, to gain powers from witches and other magical beings with the Power Sucking Athames. But also in the show, you do hear about evil beings killing in order to gain witches powers. It is likely to believe that they would sell the lesser abilities that they wont need, like potion making or spell casting. Levitation, Astral Projections, ETC, for stronger powers. Id also like to point out, warlocks could and probably did trade powers as well. Since Warlocks and witches can have the same powers in the game, logically in the show there powers would be similiar (As they were) and because of this, they would trade off or sell off there powers for better or more powers. Leaving the demonic Market with warlock/witch powers. Not to mention Power Brokers could absorb powers and infect people with powers. I kind of think if an infected which were to die, then the power broker would be able to absorb the witches power and the power he put within her. And to equal out the over poweredness, you could make it so that it is only a partial power. Nothing from a whole skill set, and some would probably be higher then others. Or perhaps give the Power Brokers Ranked players the ability to trade powers with people in the game. Like, i have TK and he has Molecular. If he accepts i should be able to trade them in game, maybe have to give up some power or some power points. or something to do it. but it would still be interesting. Dont forget my comment about the Power Borkers ability to infect others. I think that would be interesting RPly. "On a sidenote, one of the recent updates actually added some more random powers for all races. This currently exists out of 3 packages. - Molecular Immunity: Adjust + Reconstitute - Spellcasting: Spellcasting + potionmaking (No alchemy) - Teleportation: Teleport Other (place) + Force Visibility More of these kind of packges might be added in the future, these packages are rare and only given to class 5 players." I was thinking more along the lines of random rare "active" powers. Something that people could use and or explain in he game. for instance, I got Teleport Others (Place) and Force Visibility when i turned upper level... Because i was a witch i didnt get to keep the teleport. And really... I can reveal those in orbed already with a spell. The power to force it is hard to explain in RP. Same with Adjust and Reconstitute. If i could make energyballs and shields and i was a Darklighter(For example), then i could say something like, my powers had advanced outside the normal relm of there progression. This could be caused by some type of hidden family trait. Or tapping into some kind of past lifes power. Which is what i was suggesting for the COs. Because in multiple episodes, they were able to tap into there past lives and use powers they are not normally able to use. I mean, i guess in theory i could say the same thing about the other powers. But really, it would be odd for me to be able to force peoples visibility just because someone in my family could. I mean, if i had a teleport it might make sense. Spell casting wouldnt make sense if you are a demon unless you RPed coming from some elite powerful group og Demons or something... Meh i dont know. this is making my head hurt. Y_Y |
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| Moussiffer | Jun 2 2009, 06:27 AM Post #4 |
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Oh, and some people in the game have been asking if they can have houses in the game. Ive been telling them that they can just take over the empty houses. But the seem to want houses like Blade, Sammy, and yourself got. Which is understandable. Perhaps instead of giving out the mapping pack, you can just make it so that the houses within the game now, can be given to a person by RPM II And when you give them a house it will auto give them a key to the house. This way a few people who are good RPers can have there own houses, and then still have some houses in the game that are open to anyway. Speaking of which. If you need some more maps made for interiors. I really dont have any mapping i need to do for my game, so i can make some custom interior house maps for players, if you want to add more. This way you wont have to keep giving out the mapping pack. I have the feeling that a lot of people on BYOND dont know how to map properly anyway. |
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| SyncWolf | Jun 2 2009, 10:46 AM Post #5 |
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Concerning witch wars, that was a one time thing. Those demons invented it and it died out after them. demons in general do not stel powers from witches. The few demons that could actully steal powers only did it when they needed the power, they prefered using lower demons to do their bidding and take the risk. Power sucking athame's weren't very common either. I can however make a weaker version of the athame that has limited use, for example only steal 1 powerset and then become useless. Warlocks however do steal witch powers, in the show pretty much every warlock does. Hence why power stealing was created. Duo to being way overpowered, in case someone decides to go kill everyone oocly just for the powers, that would really ruin the purpose and fun. As for the entire power broker idea, i don't like that and therefor have little plans of adding that. Same counts for the powers of past life idea. Having some more random rare powers is something i am willing to work on. As for the houses, personally that is what i hate the most of all the things to map. If you are willing to create some houses then i will not deny them. And i agree that not everyone has the touch to create good maps. |
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| Kaliba | Jun 2 2009, 12:03 PM Post #6 |
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Firstly, Are you happy now Sync? -Registered- Witch Wars - although it was a one time thing, it was a 'game show' created by demons. Meaning they had to buy the athame's some how. Perhaps it was an enchantment or whatever. Either way i agree it should have a drawback - perhaps make it so that it takes some of your actual power to use? like it takes away some of your maximum stat. Or only createable by a new rank such as 'Game Show Host'? Warlocks powerstealing - should be a passive for all warlocks when they kill a WITCH, not a demon, darklighter etc. a Witch. And even then give the powers so long before they forget them? And if they relog they lose the powers gained. Power Brokes - Perhaps you could make it similar to the pawn brokers? And give Demons and Warlocks the ability to create power spheres using the powers they have (if you add the Warlock idea above, then the copied powers shouldnt be added to the list) that way the Power Brokers are dependent on what the players do. On top of that. The Source doesn't have spell casting, unless they're given it by their race or skill set. Also both him and pheonix witches could do with a weaker form of reconstruction - so anyone who greatly overkills them with a power will actually kill them but when they're only just killed they come back to life. This reduces over powering, keeps things canon and also adds alittle more... fun?  Also perhaps make Dark Elders lose recon temporerily by being healed by a Whitelighter? Just an idea for balance as well as sort of making sense. Darklighters using their hands to channel hatred to cause damage to those who are good and Whitelighters using their hands to channel happyness or whatever to cause damage to those who are evil. Finally - could you make it so that you can't save whilst shapeshifted? Please. Thank you. 
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| Moussiffer | Jun 2 2009, 02:37 PM Post #7 |
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I meant, warlocks used the power brokers market to trade there powers like demons and darklighters ETC. So it would be safe to assume that they would trade out some of the witch powers that they got from killing. In which case there would be some versions of witch powers in the market to be bought by other demons or darklighters or whatever. I just figured it would be an interesting way to expand the demonic market alittle bit. Of course the prices would have to go up, but thats the price you pay for having more powers. As for the houses, I generally dont mind at all. Ill work on some later tonight and then send you the file. I'll just use some of the more basic turfs in there and you can add whatever you want. Im sure the icons needed are the same still. So there shouldnt be a problem passing them off between the Source codes. I found myself randomly thinking about Bianca today and wondered if Phoenix Witches have the power to stop others from using there powers? If so that would be a nice upper level power to have. Other wise, I havent really thought of anything else. Oh, a coven for witches would be great. Actually... A New rank for witches maybe a High Priestess/Priest rank thats more of a faction rank, then having to do with marrage like the regualr priest rank. They would probably get Alchemy, TK, Maybe some form of shield/conjure combination. And then of course they would get a faction like "The Order of the White Rose" or something like that. (I was thinking about how weird it is that all other races can be added to a faction, But witches and Warlocks dont have one for there races. since most ranks have a faction that goes with the race the rank belongs to) And perhaps a Warlock High Priestess/Priest rank same deal just more evil, And there coven could be called somehting like "Keepers of the Lost Arts" they might get a shapeshift power as well. Just because it seems more evil. Like how piper could shape shift others when she turned into a warlock. I guess sounds good to me. And makes another rank for good. ^_^. |
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