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I am not a Democrat, I did not root for Obama in the presidential race, but I am sick and tired of so many people calling Obama a tyrant. He is doing his best to govern this country the way he thinks is right and I think he deserves our respect as our president.

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As much as I respect anyone with high authority, I do not respect someone who deliberately is trying to turn our country the way it shouldn't be turned.

That's all I have.
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I think it's because he is the president. He is the one who takes the responsibility for all of our countries problems, and he is the one who is supposed to be fixing them. At least, that is the view that everyone I know seems to be projecting. In my opinion, he is just in charge of his bit of government. Everything he does has to have at least some sense in it, as the rest of the government checks his every move.

And WMT, how is he deliberately trying to sway our county into a direction other than that it should be going? Is there some preordained course that our country must take? Do you really think he isn't doing the best that he can for the US?

Another thing: I believe that he is doing a much better job than I would ever hope to be able to do, so I do not criticism what he does, because if I was put up there I would just make blind stabs at what to do. He at least thinks his moves over, and goes with what he believes to be the best move.

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I haven't heard anyone criticizing him, everyone loves him around here, and then the few people who don't get bashed for being racist at every turn.

@carterv, Obama wants to make us more socialist, that's a path that we shouldn't go much further on.
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Oct 4 2010, 08:48 PM
I am not a Democrat, I did not root for Obama in the presidential race, but I am sick and tired of so many people calling Obama a tyrant. He is doing his best to govern this country the way he thinks is right and I think he deserves our respect as our president.

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Did you remember that he said that the unemployment will not be above the 8% mark. And it Now apoching the 10% mark.

I hate the Democrats more then Obama.

And Also Remember then Bush ranting over, and over again.

@The Mouse of Time. I agree that is the problem when you don't agree with him you get labeled as a racist.

And the odd thing bush approval levels has risin after he left office. :D

Also he singed this

http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/08/08/senate-passes-the-______act-of____-no-foolin/
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The whole employment going back up thing generally has nothing to do with Obama, and it won't for another billion years. The employment rate going back up would have been Bush's work.
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Oct 5 2010, 08:42 PM
The whole employment going back up thing generally has nothing to do with Obama, and it won't for another billion years. The employment rate going back up would have been Bush's work.
Oh lets just take the blame off one person and stick it on another person...

I think it has very little to do with the president.
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Oct 5 2010, 09:41 PM
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Oct 5 2010, 08:42 PM
The whole employment going back up thing generally has nothing to do with Obama, and it won't for another billion years. The employment rate going back up would have been Bush's work.
Oh lets just take the blame off one person and stick it on another person...

I think it has very little to do with the president.
Yes,but the president should not make a prediction.

Bush nor Obama casue the economics meltdown.

But here one thing that bother me it the trillions upon trillions of dollars of spending during a recession. That just don't make any seance at all.

(and prepare for increase taxes. I know it going to happen)

It just the economy just doing stance the beginning of time.

It go up a few years and it go down a few years.

EDIT: It is the president fault if he sign the bill.
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Oct 5 2010, 02:54 AM
And WMT, how is he deliberately trying to sway our county into a direction other than that it should be going? Is there some preordained course that our country must take? Do you really think he isn't doing the best that he can for the US?
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Because it's very obvious he either has no idea what he's doing (not likely) or he does and is deliberately doing what isn't needed (most likely). The number of bills and laws he's passing left and right will do us harm. The major debates about Prop 8, illegals and so on he has been a foul duck in. He sued a STATE for trying to work hard to keep illegals out. The President, Obama, sued a STATE!

Honestly I cannot wait for 2012. If it's the end of the world then yay we need it. If not, then I hope we don't have to deal with Obama for another long four years.

The two problems are, there are still enough people who honestly believe he is doing good for the country. The other problem is you are racist if you say anything bad about Obama.
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Oct 5 2010, 08:42 PM
The whole employment going back up thing generally has nothing to do with Obama, and it won't for another billion years. The employment rate going back up would have been Bush's work.
Oh lets just take the blame off one person and stick it on another person...

I think it has very little to do with the president.
Yes, stick on who's fault it really is. I wasn't saying it was bush's fault, I was saying that things getting better would have been thanks to Bush, not Obama, seeing as we're now experiencing the economic effects of the very very beginning of Bush's presidency. That puts the blame on those before him.
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Oct 5 2010, 03:21 AM
I haven't heard anyone criticizing him, everyone loves him around here, and then the few people who don't get bashed for being racist at every turn.

@carterv, Obama wants to make us more socialist, that's a path that we shouldn't go much further on.
every one of the top ten countries in the world with the highest standards of living is socialist. we need to go farther down that path. and faster.
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Oct 6 2010, 09:20 PM
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Oct 5 2010, 03:21 AM
I haven't heard anyone criticizing him, everyone loves him around here, and then the few people who don't get bashed for being racist at every turn.

@carterv, Obama wants to make us more socialist, that's a path that we shouldn't go much further on.
every one of the top ten countries in the world with the highest standards of living is socialist. we need to go farther down that path. and faster.
I don't know about you. But all (or most) their country is usually more politically unstable then ours. :O

And they are tied up in red tape.



Also this is reavlent

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The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of an expanding bureaucracy


EDIT: If people hate the corporation for monopolizing why let the government to do the same. At the end we just going to lose as much as a corporate as a government monopolize.

In short: If someone control 100% (or near) we are going to lose.
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I haven't heard anyone criticizing him, everyone loves him around here, and then the few people who don't get bashed for being racist at every turn.

@carterv, Obama wants to make us more socialist, that's a path that we shouldn't go much further on.
every one of the top ten countries in the world with the highest standards of living is socialist. we need to go farther down that path. and faster.
I really hope you aren't serious, cuz that'd just be sad.
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it's completley true. in fact, only one or 2 in the entire top 20 aren't. we aren't in the top 20, btw.
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Oct 7 2010, 01:37 AM
it's completley true. in fact, only one or 2 in the entire top 20 aren't. we aren't in the top 20, btw.
Sorry I lol'd on that comment. (due to it completely untrue)

Source...

EDIT: according on where I found we are 10th place. (2005)

http://skeptically.org/economics/id21.html

and this

http://thewondrous.com/list-of-top-20-countries-with-best-quality-of-life/

7th on that link.
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Why Socialism Doesn't Work
Socialism Made Simple
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a
single student before but had, once, failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one
would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said okay, we will have an experiment in this
class on socialism. All grades would be averaged and everyone
would receive the same grade, so no one would fail and no one
would receive an ‘A’.

After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a ‘B’.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who
studied little were happy.

But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little
had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they
wanted a free ride too; so they studied little. The second test
average was a ‘D’!

No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an ‘F’.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name-calling all
resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of
anyone else.

All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that
socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is
great, the effort to succeed is great;
But when government takes all the reward away; no one will try or
want to succeed.
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you've copypasta'd that at least twice before martho. understanding ctrl+v does not mean yiou understand socialism. that's a paranoid deascription of why ocmunisim doesn't work.
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Actually I have only pasted that once before. If I don't understand socialism then explain it to me. How is it not like what I have copy and pasted? Why is it so great according to you?
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Oct 7 2010, 04:26 AM
you've copypasta'd that at least twice before martho. understanding ctrl+v does not mean yiou understand socialism. that's a paranoid deascription of why ocmunisim doesn't work.
I've been reading a book that confirm that's concept as being socialism and why it doesn't work. So it's not just copy and paste.

The reason why you say that is because it's true. No offense, but every time someone points out a flaw or a con in something I like, I will bark back at them. Everyone does.
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that is not socialism. that is communism. the difference is subtle, but the result is very differnt- socialism works, communism doesn't.
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Socialism works? Okay then. Read "whatever happened to justice" by Richard J Maybury and tell me what you think.
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What Martho posted has the same points that my History teacher taught us a couple weeks ago. DM, you do realize that Socialism really doesn't work to well, right? Personally, I don't feel like having to starve due to food shortages (very common in socialist societies)
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@DM, unless you elaborate on why socialism works and is not like my quote then your point is pretty much irrelevant.
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No offense to DM, but I've seen liberals and left winged people try to defend their ways by making me/us feel less intelligent. Often I'm told to "look it up myself" as I "don't know what I'm talking about".
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Oct 8 2010, 12:48 PM
defend their ways by making me/us feel less intelligent.
must... not... make... obvious... point....


and martho:
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:D i win
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defend their ways by making me/us feel less intelligent.
must... not... make... obvious... point....


and martho:
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:D i win
This is funny. Usually by this point the person starts posting all this random political stuff to prove that i'm unintelligent.

Here? Some statement of not proving a point, and then some photo. He must be desperate.
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lolz @DM's pic
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so because you can't tell me why socialism works and is different then the quote I posted you start posting random images to prove your point...
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Hey, at least it was funny.
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so because you can't tell me why socialism works and is different then the quote I posted you start posting random images to prove your point...
Yep. He has given up. We won.

And TMOT it may be "funny" but what this proves is that he has no way to explain to us what he believes, as if we proved him wrong. We should be lucky, as usually the liberals who attack me just keep on going, they don't post fail photos.
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