Uniformitarianism vs Catastrophism

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Witch do you think is more likely?
Catast	1 (16.7%)
uniform	0 (0%)
both	5 (83.3%)
neither	0 (0%)
Total Votes: 6

Uniformitarianism vs Catastrophism
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Martho	May 6 2010, 09:43 PM Post #1
Posts: 1,404 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 Activity Level Active	Witch one do you think is more likely? I personally prefer catastrophism. So lets get debating!



Thinvader747	May 6 2010, 09:59 PM Post #2
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Martho	May 6 2010, 10:12 PM Post #3
Posts: 1,404 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 Activity Level Active	How things like the grand canyon formed. Catastrophism is were it happened all in catastrophies such as floods and volcanoes. Uniformitarianism is were it all happened super slowly over billions and billions of years. There is, more evidence for catast and I think it is more likely.



Thinvader747	May 6 2010, 10:17 PM Post #4
I can seeeeeee youuuuuuu Posts: 1,699 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 Activity Level Active What version of GM do you use? 7 Pro	I see... To a degree, both. The winds and the waters slowly etch shapes into land, while at the same time, things crash and burn to speed the process along. Without both, Things wouldn't be the same.
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Peter Porky	May 6 2010, 10:40 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,400 Group: Members Member #19 Joined: Apr 4, 2010	I think those are the wrong words, gradualism and anti-gradualism are the correct terms aren't they? Evolution shows that we evolved in big steps, but over billions and billions of years.



Deleted User	May 7 2010, 02:04 AM Post #6
Deleted User	this is more of a subtle creationist argument if anything, and you actually dont have those definitions correct martho.
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Vlad	May 8 2010, 04:04 AM Post #7
Posts: 1,021 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: Apr 3, 2010	The Grand Canyon was created over millions of years by gradual erosion by water. The idea that it was formed quickly by a catastrophe is ridiculous and countered by an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence.



Peter Porky	May 8 2010, 12:12 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,400 Group: Members Member #19 Joined: Apr 4, 2010	I've heard creationist arguments saying the Grand Canyon was caused by a global flood... go figure... =\



Deleted User	May 8 2010, 02:06 PM Post #9
Deleted User	lol if it was it seems to me like the ENTIRE landscape would be knocked away not just that spot. XD hell they are wrong to start with, so maybe it makes sense in wrong longic.
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Thinvader747	May 8 2010, 03:31 PM Post #10
I can seeeeeee youuuuuuu Posts: 1,699 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 Activity Level Active What version of GM do you use? 7 Pro	There is a canyon somewhere that was formed by possibly the largest cascade of water ever on Earth.. I can't remember which one though... But the Grand Canyon was most likely created over millions of years, maybe with the aid of catastrophes.
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TMoT	May 8 2010, 07:19 PM Post #11
Your Bestest Nightmare Posts: 5,021 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Apr 3, 2010	I'd say both. The grand canyon was made over a long period of time, but things like craters from meteorites are definitely made quickly.
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Peter Porky	May 9 2010, 02:01 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,400 Group: Members Member #19 Joined: Apr 4, 2010	The Grand Canyon was carved by a glacier/river... like every other canyon or valley.



TMoT	May 10 2010, 08:48 PM Post #13
Your Bestest Nightmare Posts: 5,021 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Apr 3, 2010	Peter Porky May 9 2010, 02:01 AM The Grand Canyon was carved by a glacier/river... like every other canyon or valley. Wasn't it made by erosion?
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Peter Porky	May 10 2010, 09:05 PM Post #14
Posts: 1,400 Group: Members Member #19 Joined: Apr 4, 2010	erosion: the process by which the surface of the earth is worn away by the action of water, glaciers, winds, waves, etc.



TMoT	May 11 2010, 10:38 PM Post #15
Your Bestest Nightmare Posts: 5,021 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Apr 3, 2010	Okay, well then let me rephrase that: Wasn't the Grand Canyon formed by being worn away by the Colorado River?
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Vlad	May 12 2010, 03:35 AM Post #16
Posts: 1,021 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: Apr 3, 2010	The Grand Canyon largely came from the erosion from the Colorado River, though wind erosion probably played a more and more major role as the river slowly carved out a path. That's how I understand it. I'm not exactly an expert on geology, though. Edited by Vlad, May 16 2010, 12:59 AM.



Martho	May 19 2010, 12:23 AM Post #17
Posts: 1,404 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 Activity Level Active	I kinda failed the debate with my descriptions. In Uni the earth is billions of years old and most structures happened over large amounts of time. In Cat the earth is just thousands of years old and most structures happened relatively quickly from things like floods and volcanoes.



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