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Deleted User	Apr 19 2010, 09:47 PM Post #1
Deleted User	do you believe in magic? magic, that is, definied as the ability of a person's will to change things. not illusions, but actually doing things. common examples are healers, levitators, psychics, people capable of walking through coals... all those. do you believe in it?
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Peter Porky	Apr 19 2010, 09:55 PM Post #2
Posts: 1,400 Group: Members Member #19 Joined: Apr 4, 2010	People capable of walking through coals? That's just self-manipulation. Anyone can manipulate their senses and others', noone can do it for real.



TMoT	Apr 19 2010, 10:35 PM Post #3
Your Bestest Nightmare Posts: 5,021 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Apr 3, 2010	DarthMarus Apr 19 2010, 09:47 PM do you believe in magic? magic, that is, definied as the ability of a person's will to change things. not illusions, but actually doing things. common examples are healers, levitators, psychics, people capable of walking through coals... all those. do you believe in it? With that definition, yes. At this very moment, I have the will to type this reply, and it's happening O___O
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Deleted User	Apr 19 2010, 11:05 PM Post #4
Deleted User	lol i meant without using conventional means.... like typing. i mean like someone using their mind to levitate themselves a few feet (or stories) off the ground (which has been reported by surprisingly reputable sources) or healing others at accelerated or otherwise semingly impossible rates/ways (which is also well documented by a surprising number of sources) those who are phychic (the best documented) ghosts (that too) or perhaps the unusual ablity to turn water into wine? lol im pretty sure we've all heard that story. perhps the idea that concentrated thought can alter the outcome of events? there is actually more evidence to the existence of magic then there is to a rich liberal. XD tho i remain skeptical to the existeince of both. (that's a joke btw. PLEASE dont try to debate it i dont want the topic derailed) but assuming 10-dimension string theory is correct these may be manifestations of the sentient being's ability to move freely in the 4th, 5th and 6th dimensions. i'll explain that fully later lol
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Robert	Apr 19 2010, 11:06 PM Post #5
Posts: 7,393 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 What version of GM do you use? 6 Pro	Well, sort of. Not the way the world things, but Christ has healed people, risen people from the dead, walked on water and so on. That's more Spiritual "magic" if you would.
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Nijg	Apr 19 2010, 11:09 PM Post #6
rude crude piece of food Posts: 7,332 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 What version of GM do you use? 6 Pro	WebmasterTeen Apr 19 2010, 11:06 PM Well, sort of. Not the way the world things, but Christ has healed people, risen people from the dead, walked on water and so on. That's more Spiritual "magic" if you would. There is a difference between magic and faith/priesthood In religious terms, magic is usually a bad thing XD
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TMoT	Apr 19 2010, 11:16 PM Post #7
Your Bestest Nightmare Posts: 5,021 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Apr 3, 2010	DarthMarus Apr 19 2010, 11:05 PM lol i meant without using conventional means.... like typing. i mean like someone using their mind to levitate themselves a few feet (or stories) off the ground (which has been reported by surprisingly reputable sources) or healing others at accelerated or otherwise semingly impossible rates/ways (which is also well documented by a surprising number of sources) those who are phychic (the best documented) ghosts (that too) or perhaps the unusual ablity to turn water into wine? lol im pretty sure we've all heard that story. perhps the idea that concentrated thought can alter the outcome of events? there is actually more evidence to the existence of magic then there is to a rich liberal. XD tho i remain skeptical to the existeince of both. (that's a joke btw. PLEASE dont try to debate it i dont want the topic derailed) but assuming 10-dimension string theory is correct these may be manifestations of the sentient being's ability to move freely in the 4th, 5th and 6th dimensions. i'll explain that fully later lol Without actually doing anything, no. With exerting some kind of force, yeah.
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Robert	Apr 19 2010, 11:17 PM Post #8
Posts: 7,393 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 What version of GM do you use? 6 Pro	Nijg Apr 19 2010, 11:09 PM WebmasterTeen Apr 19 2010, 11:06 PM Well, sort of. Not the way the world things, but Christ has healed people, risen people from the dead, walked on water and so on. That's more Spiritual "magic" if you would. There is a difference between magic and faith/priesthood In religious terms, magic is usually a bad thing XD Your thinking priest craft and that stuff. What about faith and hope?
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Nijg	Apr 19 2010, 11:31 PM Post #9
rude crude piece of food Posts: 7,332 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 What version of GM do you use? 6 Pro	I'm thinking of black magic. (You know like stuff flying across the room, etc.) Faith and hope does not fall under the category of magic, its a whole other type of thing.
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Robert	Apr 19 2010, 11:52 PM Post #10
Posts: 7,393 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 What version of GM do you use? 6 Pro	Oh I see. Yeah, I have no idea why I brought those up.
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Deleted User	Apr 20 2010, 12:00 AM Post #11
Deleted User	black magic is flying accross the room? among christian terms black magic generally involves some form of blood sacrifice or death. and it gives you WAY cooler powers then flying accross the freaking room lol
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Vlad	Apr 20 2010, 01:35 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,021 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: Apr 3, 2010	Magic usually claims some supernatural element, not really. I see little to no evidence for that kind of thing. However, the human mind can, using moder technology, be used to command electronics to do things, etc--but that's all known and entirely natural, and within the confines of science. It is also logical to assume that our thoughts and our minds affect the world around us. The only problem is, the energy given off, the waves our brain emits, is nowhere near enough to affect things to a noticeable extent. There's also something else people have called magic--humans controlling their own bodies beyond what we thought was possible. That's not nearly so outlandish. The mind can be trained to such an enormous extent that a person manipulating things withing themselves is much more likely.



carterv	Apr 20 2010, 01:45 AM Post #13
Carter V. Posts: 3,500 Group: Members Member #4 Joined: Apr 3, 2010 What version of GM do you use? 7 Pro	A smart magician would not try to make an object float in midair, as he would know that his audience would be skeptical, and would suspect him of using strings and other methods that are not real magic. Why waste your energy on something, when you know you will be doubted? And yes, I believe in magic to a certain extent.



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