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| Deleted User | Apr 4 2010, 11:50 PM Post #1 |
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hmm. well good luck with that. um, ANY little sin? lol i've done most of them. here's some of the various comandments: 3 Do not have any other gods before me. im pagan. i have TWO god-like things that come before you. HA You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments. ok. so for several hundred generations my family is christian. then POP i come along and go athiest. then buddhist, and most recently buddhist/animist/wiccan 7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name. lol break do this one SO much 9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work. HA! as if. im a lazy*** teenager 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it. meh. nobody really follows this one. 12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you. i've only follwed this if by "honor" you mean 'sass" 14 You shall not commit adultery. -_- "extramarital sex"... heh heh yea... 15 You shall not steal. done it, lol 16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. did that. 17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. i did that. in fact i stole his orange lego brick. true story. IM GOING TO HELL AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DOA BOUT TI! MUAH HA HA HA lol enough of that |
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| Robert | Apr 4 2010, 11:52 PM Post #2 |
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Some of those aren't commandments. ![]() Do you even know what Hell is? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 4 2010, 11:55 PM Post #3 |
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the thing im poking fun at, but it really depends on your veiwpoint. see, im only going to hell from the christian veiwpoint. many of teh "bad things" i've done are morally acceptable in the religion i sorta believe. to elaborate on that.... i am buddhist/animist/wiccan. wicca is usually refered to as witchcraft, btw. animism is a simplfied version of paganism. and budhism for me is a moral code rather then a beleif set. i dont belive in hell. i belive in a slight form of reincarnation tho. |
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| Robert | Apr 5 2010, 12:03 AM Post #4 |
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That's interesting, because I'm a Christian and I don't believe you are going there based on what you have indicated in this thread. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 12:34 AM Post #5 |
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i put itching powder in the bib bible taht periests use in my local church. |
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| Robert | Apr 5 2010, 12:39 AM Post #6 |
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Well if you consider that a horrible sin... Seriously, most people don't understand what Hell really is. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 12:44 AM Post #7 |
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what is it then? and i'll lsit all; the other reasons i should go to hell if the christian religion is correct after. edit: ok here goes i've rejected christianity even after being raised in it i may or may not have had sex before marriage but i certainly plan to i kinda-sorta belive in two gods i've made out with a guy i've vandalized countless "holy symbols" i mock christianity on a regular basis i think suicide jokes are funny (tho in my case it's not hypocritical D: ) |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 01:52 AM Post #8 |
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oh yes, i've also attempted suicide. isn't that a mortal sin? |
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| carterv | Apr 5 2010, 02:14 AM Post #9 |
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I don't think so. I think that puts you in the in-between place forever. I forgot what it's called, though. |
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| DT-170x | Apr 5 2010, 02:19 AM Post #10 |
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That depends. But you did not commit suicide. So no. |
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| Peter Porky | Apr 5 2010, 06:31 AM Post #11 |
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Suicide is the worst sin... God's greatest gifts are life, free will, and imperfection... and commiting suicide uses your free will to take your life, because of your imperfection. Killing yourself is just a smack in the face to the Creator. |
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| Robert | Apr 5 2010, 11:19 AM Post #12 |
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One of the worst. Denying the Holy Ghost is probably the worst, as well as murder. Hell is a term more than a place. And so many Christians have been led to believe that it is the place you go if you sin, no matter what. Based on my religion, that is wrong. You know about Easter and the Resurrection? Do you know what that means? |
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| TMoT | Apr 5 2010, 03:42 PM Post #13 |
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I've always believed that you only go to hell if you don't accept Christ into your life. I was raised being told that. I was told that some more at that Christian private school thing I went to before we moved. That's what the Bible's told me. And I think that's what WMT is now trying to tell you. |
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| Robert | Apr 5 2010, 06:32 PM Post #14 |
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Sort of... If God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ come down and in plain view fill you with full knowledge of everything, and then you were to deny it all, then you would go there. Or if you were the 1/3 which choose Satan's plan back in Heaven. I believe there are three kingdoms in Heaven, and based on what I know, doing what darthmarus does will probably lead him to the 2nd or third kingdom, if he doesn't accept our gospel and repent. That is based on our beliefs. |
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| Martho | Apr 5 2010, 07:18 PM Post #15 |
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DM, in my religion you are not even capable of going to hell. The only people who go to hell are the ones who have a perfect understanding of the gospel and know its true but still reject it.
Edited by Martho, Apr 6 2010, 01:09 AM.
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| Robert | Apr 5 2010, 10:03 PM Post #16 |
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Might I ask what your religion is? |
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| carterv | Apr 5 2010, 10:16 PM Post #17 |
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In my religion, when you die, you stay dead. LaVeyan Satanist |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:02 PM Post #18 |
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well, it's hard to definine what is and isnt dead. i personally think that the entire universe is, half metaphorically, alive. therefore, the breif chapter of my molecules' foray into sentience stops when my brain stops proccessing. but my molocules will continue through the unverse in a cycling dance of order and chaos. however, i myself am flawed. i have uncontrollable impulses to do self-destructive things. i am literally incapable of resisting them most of the time. so i find the idea that from the christian veiwpoint, a flaw i was born with makes me go to hell offensive. (i expect to die by suicide) |
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| Martho | Apr 6 2010, 01:08 AM Post #19 |
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I thought you knew D: I am LDS. I said "My" religion because I wasn't sure if I was remembering right and I didn't want to make the church look bad if I was wrong. |
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| Vlad | Apr 6 2010, 02:25 AM Post #20 |
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I agree with that, essentially. When we die our molecules move on from this form and into some other. We were all in a star once, and we will probably return there someday--at least, the molecules and elements that make up our bodies will, and even the energy that runs through our brain until it all fizzes out and we die. I obviously don't believe in an afterlife or in any immortal soul or place where the soul goes. I'd like to, but I can't, not as of yet. |
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| Robert | Apr 6 2010, 12:16 PM Post #21 |
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Okay then! I knew there were three LDS members on here, I just didn't know the third one. Yes, it requires faith. Faith it something that most people who aren't members of the church find hard to understand, comprehend, or use/have. You are all capable, but if you grew up with the thought that you must trust only scientific evidence, then i understand why you would have troubles understanding and believing religious answers. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 08:53 PM Post #22 |
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i was raised christian. i reached the conclusion of following that which is observable, provable and testable myself. as i have stated recently, i have limited faith in a mix of buddhism and paganism. that is because this particular belief of mine has, to some extent, spiritually proven itself to me, not with tales of results in a 1800 year old book but in actually saving my life. in a way that isn't logically explainable. i have no belief in an afterlife at all. i have very limited belief that some elements of my personality may leave an imprint on the people tha mattered to me that can be activated if needed, but i dont think that anything will happen to me when i die. but the immortal components of me, my atoms and molocules ahnd such, will return into the endless living cycle that is the universe |
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| Robert | Apr 6 2010, 09:45 PM Post #23 |
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That's not a Christian viewpoint at all. It's still taking me a long time to get full faith, but I have enough faith in enough of the stuff in my church that I almost 90% trust everything. The 10% is the lack of respect I get because of my education, and some of the talks make me wonder. But I still believe in my church and all of that. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 7 2010, 02:15 AM Post #24 |
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i know it's not a christian veiwpoint. im not a christian. i was rased one but im not one anymore. i belive in only one form of life after death, and that is how you effected the world, and particularly the people that cared about you. the only thing that makes me who i am is my memories. bits of data stored in my cells. my physical manifestations such as to go to the only hell i belive in would require for you to be negativley remembered by everyone who ever mattered to you. to go to "heaven", you must have truly cared for someone. to have them remember you. i belive in no spirits, yet my life was saved by the strength of a memory of one. that is why i've gained a limited belief in animist ideas in general, although i have a very unusual veiwpoint for it. i think i'll explain it fully in another topic sometime later. |
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| Peter Porky | Apr 7 2010, 02:26 AM Post #25 |
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We're all dust in the wind, who cares whether you affected the world? You'll be forgotten soon after you're dead. |
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| Vlad | Apr 7 2010, 03:46 AM Post #26 |
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Dust in the wind, all they are is dust in the wind Heh. Anyway. Peter, that is incredibly annoying, you know that? You are deliberately applying what you think someone who does not believe in an afterlife would believe. That's not necessarily what everyone thinks (in fact, most people don't). What do you mean who cares if you affected the world? I'd say the world does, for one. And in case you hadn't noticed, people are not always forgotten. We still know Pharaohs of the Old Kingdom, the ancient rulers of the Great Mesopotamian City-States, many now fallen to ruin. I think that the only way we live on is through others. How they remember us and what they remember are as close as we can get to an afterlife, and I think DM makes an interesting point about negative and positive memories of people and conceptions of people being a kind of heaven and hell. A fascinating idea, to say the least. Not supernatural at all, whchc is how I like it.... |
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| Thinvader747 | Apr 7 2010, 04:52 PM Post #27 |
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I blatantly don't believe in hell. So therefore, consequently, I'm not going there. Based on what has been said in this topic... Most of the stupid tramps that have tried to convert me to Christianity, and told me that if I didn't believe I'd go to hell and burn (this has happened at least four times. It's very funny) were wrong. Haha. |
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| Peter Porky | Apr 7 2010, 06:46 PM Post #28 |
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"Peter, that is incredibly annoying, you know that? You are deliberately applying what you think someone who does not believe in an afterlife would believe. That's not necessarily what everyone thinks (in fact, most people don't)." Vlad, that is incredibly annoying, you know that? You are deliberately assuming that I believe in an afterlife, and what you think someone with such beliefs would assume one would believe who doesn't believe in an afterlife. Your assumptions aren't necessarily correct(in fact, most of them aren't). "What do you mean who cares if you affected the world? I'd say the world does, for one. And in case you hadn't noticed, people are not always forgotten. We still know Pharaohs of the Old Kingdom, the ancient rulers of the Great Mesopotamian City-States, many now fallen to ruin." And the world ends and the actions they have done have no effect on a meaningless existance. Live life to its fullest, don't live it to be forgotten... |
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