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Topic Started: May 24 2010, 02:56 AM (936 Views)
Dipic
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Hello there.

I'd like to take this opportunity to warn people about the silly "hackers" BYOND/GOA seems to attract. They seem to begin by impersonating someone, or making false quotes, then attempting to steal your email or BYOND account via password/account recovery systems. Personally, I received three emails tonight due to someone trying to take my email account, and one email due to someone trying to take my BYOND account. I'm actually impressed to receive a hand crafted email from BYOND when this happened. They seem rather on top of things.

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BYOND Staff to Dipic
show details 2:10 AM (1 hour ago)
A user is claiming 'Dipic' is his key, but it seems suspect since this key has active logins. Please respond to this email (via support form) if this is a fraudulent claim.

BYOND Staff


DO NOT REPLY to this email. To contact the BYOND Staff, visit our website at:
http://www.byond.com/support/


Then another shortly after responding to this email.

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BYOND Staff to Dipic
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Ok, no worries.

-- BYOND Staff


DO NOT REPLY to this email. To contact the BYOND Staff, visit our website at:
http://www.byond.com/support/

Dipic <XXXX> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I actually know who is trying to steal or otherwise hack my key. Please prevent any changes to my account, as I am fully aware of my password and email address, and have complete access.
>
> Below is a list of some of the keys the person trying to take my account uses.
>
> carkey8
> pooky87
> piro87


So please, secure your email/BYOND accounts with something more than an easy to guess security question. Also, use a secure password that consists of a number, capital letter, and/or special character (!@#$%^&*).

P.S. And for the love of God, don't share accounts, and if you do, please change the password to something unique that doesn't match up with any of your other passwords for things like email, msn, etc, you could lose more than a BYOND account.

P.P.S Of course, don't give out your account information either.. no one from GOA, BYOND, MSN, Hotmail, Yahoo, Google, or anyone else will ask for it, unless they're an impostor.
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Sipher

I can has your social security number?
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KyoshiV2

did u them Dipic?
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May 24 2010, 04:07 AM
I can has your social security number?
Me 2
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Okay, someone's pretty persistent. I'm almost impressed with this, other than their lack of spellcheck and obvious fake email address.
Also, see my P.P.S. in the original post of this topic about companies not asking for information. I'll point out the things you can look out for in an email like this.

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From: Byond Staff <byondstaff@live.com>
Date: Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM
Subject: Byond Staff
To: XXXX


Unfortunately, Tom needs to verify that indeed the key was not stolen, In order to do so, you need to send your last know password/security question to Tom's personal email "Tom.byond@hotmail.com. If you fail to respond, your key shall be restricted, making it impossible to log on byond.



-- BYOND Staff


DO NOT REPLY to this email. To contact the BYOND Staff, visit our website at:
http://www.byond.com/support/

Rin nagato <verificationpalpay@live.com> wrote:
> I actually know who
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It was a cunning attempt, but perhaps this person is not cunning enough to pull something like this. When he's older he'll probably go to jail for insurance fraud or something of the like.

Also, note that email address that is for some reason quoting my message to byond? Seems he's also tried to hack PayPal accounts. I don't know about you, but that seems like some pretty serious stuff to me.

Aren't humans fascinating creatures?
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Human have no limit to there greed,they shall burn with in hades when time comes.
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Looks like we've found the criminal!

Tom says:
Congratulations, your getting via byond, for hacking a game, We have undeniable proof.
Ouriço says:
?
Tom says:
Players have reported
On support forums.
Ouriço says:
Listen I already know you're not with BYOND staff since you asked for my password the last time we spoke.
Tom says:
I did, to verify You were not a fraud.
Ouriço says:
In any case, I didn't hack.
But if you're talking about Plunder Gnome, I can tell you who did.
Tom says:
Who, Erased scoreboard.
Ouriço says:
I'm sure you already know who he is.
Ranch Jolly.
Tom says:
Your friend call jon?, because he's been on our watchlist since 09.
Ouriço says:
As far as I know, Jon hasn't done anything but spread the GOA source.
Tom says:
Goa?
Ouriço says:
Which is funny, but not exactly hacking or destruction of property.
Haha.
You know, Dan's game.
Tom says:
So he stole someones source, and spreading Dan's game that he worked on with 2shea?
Ouriço says:
Jon didn't steal it.
Tom says:
What's his key?
Ouriço says:
Rugg, IceWarriorX, and Jeff used an email changer and tricked Kobata into sending the source over to them.
At which point, Rugg decided to give the source out. One of the people he gave it to is Jon.
Kobata/Destroy that is.
Tom says:
Who is jeff?
Ouriço says:
I'm not sure actually. Charlie knows his key though.
He's offline at the moment.
Tom says:
Hmm, and what is Destroy's email.
Ouriço says:
(censored)
Although I don't post on any BYOND forums, and I rarely post on blogs. So I'm curious to know who's telling you I'm some hacker, and why.
Tom says:
Well, someone overheard you braggin, and noticed gnome was wiped, they put 2 and 2 together and figured out that it was you, and reported you.
Ouriço says:
Well obviously that's undeniable proof.
Tom says:
They had many witnesses, and the person was an byond admin
which never lies.
Ouriço says:
I'm sure my IP was caught up in the mess somewhere since Ranch Jolly was on Teamviewer with me.
But like I said, I didn't actually do it. There are several people who'll tell you the same thing.
Tom says:
That explains alot.
Ouriço says:
Did you ask me for Jon's key earlier even though you said he was on a watch list?
Tom says:
I have it in DB, and lummox in charge of whatch list.
Ouriço says:
Here we are.
Ouriço sends:



Transfer of "trollsovergnomes.png" is complete.

Ouriço says:
That should explain the situation.
Tom says:
hm
Ouriço says:
As funny as it was, I can't take credit for it.
Tom says:
Hmm why were you on teamviewer with him?
Ouriço says:
I guess so he could show me this. The three of us were in an MSN chat and he asked me to open it.
"This will be funny as shit," etc. etc.
Tom says:
Since Dan does not come on byond anymore, and most of this hackers are coming from his game, Me and the staff have come to conclusion, that no choice but to delet Naruto Grand Online Adventure, Its a threat, and it has no current owner.
Ouriço says:
Interesting.
Tom says:
Did you just sent, a password recovery application?
Ouriço says:
No, I haven't sent one since I got it figured out weeks ago.
Tom says:
Then i believe someone is trying to trick staff, into giving them your key.
Ouriço says:
I must be a pretty popular guy.
Any idea who it is?
Tom says:
Not atm, Whens Destroy's active time?
Ouriço says:
Should catch him from like 11 PM to 1 AM EST.
That's normally when I talk to him.
Tom says:
Say again, i didnt catch that.
Ouriço says:
Usually around 11 PM until early morning EST.
Tom says:
I see,
Ouriço says:
Occasioanlly earlier. Guess it just depends on whether or not he's feeling talkative.
Tom says:
Tell him to contact me Asap



Dion says:
Hey Ourico you heard that goa is going down?
Ouriço says:
Hey what a coincidence, I was just talking to Tom about this before he logged off MSN!
Dion says:
people
tod me on ga
goa* and saw forum
Ouriço says:
Which forum?
Dion says:
byond forum
Ouriço says:
Link me.
Dion says:
Ight
Ouriço says:
Well?
Dion says:
looking ,
i dont appreciate
u and charlie
muting me yesterday
for no reasob
reason*
Ouriço says:
I didn't mute anyone.
I can't believe Tom talks to me on MSN now.
This is sooooooo cool.
Dion says:
Gimme his msn NOW
need to talk to him about something
maybe he can edit me on goa
Ouriço says:
Dion, did you forget? You were the one who gave me his MSN.
You already have him in your contacts.
Dion says:
=o
no
his not online
atm thoe
Ouriço says:
Hey send me that link please.
Because I can't find anything of the sort on the BYOND forum!
Dion says:
K
Ouriço says:
Hey wait, before you do that, I have to ask.
If Tom isn't on your contact list, how did you add him to a conversation?
Dion says:
I do but it shows offline.
Ouriço says:
You just told me you didn't know his address.
Dion says:
OMG
u messing with my head
Ouriço says:
No.
Dion says:
am looking for link
i hate revers psychology
Ouriço says:
It's not reverse psychology. You asked me for someone's MSN that you already had.
Dion says:
I thought he had a newone
because it shows offline
but maybe he block me
cause i kept bothering him

Tom was added to this conversation. Handwriting is no longer supported because not all participants can view handwritten messages. Handwritten messages will be sent as text.

Ouriço says:
Alright well I added him
Dion says:
thanx

- Dipic has been added to the conversation.

Ouriço says:
I'm going to add Dipic too.
It would seem there is some malicious activity going on, and he's helping me investigate.
In your opinion, Tom, what is the safest thing to do with my password right now?
Should I give it to you or what?
Tom says:
What?
Ouriço says:
Well there is some scoundrel impersonating people on BYOND.
And I need your help to protect my invaluable information.
- Dipic says:
Hey I'll be back in five minutes. Sorry.
Ouriço says:
His key is carkey8.
Tom says:
First thing, NEVER give out your info. 2 change your security question.
Dion says:
=/
Ouriço says:
Also, I didn't give you Destroy's real address because I wasn't sure if you were Tom or not.
But now that I know I can trust you, it
*It's kobata_monster@hotmail.com
Dion says:
thats not kobata
his not ecologistical like that
thats sipher
Ouriço says:
No, it's Kobata.
I speak with him off and on.
He used to just be kobata@ssjworld or something like that, but he remade because so many people had his address.
Dion, where's that link?
You're taking forever, and I don't see anything of the sort on the forum.
Tom says:
Am going to lunch. I dont really care about kobata's email. 1.If it truly was his, you would be smart enought to open a ew conversation then give me, You would'nt give it while other people on convo.
Ouriço says:
Oh Tom, you can't leave yet.
I asked you to page me.
Also, I already know Dipic has Kobata's email.
And Dion is trustworthy.
So there's no reason to be secretive in this conversation.
Dion says:
Lol yea right, you hate me on goa
and ppl say thaats spiher
Ouriço says:
Dion, get the link.
Tom, page me.
Dion says:
even dipic
Ouriço says:
Surely it doesn't take you this long to page me for verification, Tom.
I asked you like half an hour ago.
Dion says:
ourico whats your byond key
Ouriço says:
Why do you need my key, Dion?
Dion says:
i whanan know when u online on goa
so i can hunt u
in kiri
Ouriço says:
GOA doesn't have anything to do with this conversation. I asked you to get me the link to the BYOND forum.
What's funny is that Tom told me just a few minutes ago that GOA would be shut down, and I didn't tell anyone else.
Now somehow you know even though I can't find a forum topic about it.
Dion says:
LOL cause i am god
Ouriço says:
It would be understandable if Tom told you, but you didn't have his email.
Right?
Dion says:
he didn't someone in goa told me and i saw forum etc
Ouriço says:
Except there's no forum post about it, and no one on GOA knew.
Tom says:
http://www.byond.com/games/Ceres1.artemis?tab=index,go on it
Dion says:
I knew
cause i have the inside scoop
i talk to the big folks on byond
Ouriço says:
There's nothing on that page except a bad game, Tom.
What are you trying to show me?
Tom says:
its were lumoxjr, and byond staff go to chat
Ouriço says:
Which big folks? Like LummoxJr and Dan?
Tom says:
Lummo*
-sigh-
Your choice, to be honest
Ouriço says:
Tom, it seems you're unable to page me at the moment.
Are you currently online?
With your key I mean.
Tom says:
Tomino is online atm
Ouriço says:
Tomino? That's not your main key.
Log in Tom so I can be sure.
Tom says:
K
Ouriço says:
Tell me when you're on that key.
Dion, get me the link to that forum post please.
Have you signed in your Tom key yet?
Tom says:
Yes
Ouriço says:
I'm going to page you and I want you to copy/paste what I send.
One sec.
Okay done.
Well?
Tom says:
Didnt recieve anything.
Ouriço says:
I just sent it.
- Dipic says:
and back
I'll read what's above.
Ouriço says:
Tom I just paged you again.
If you haven't received anything, why don't you try paging me?
- Dipic says:
(11:35:28 AM) tom.byond@hotmail.com: First thing, NEVER give out your info. 2 change your security question.
Tom, honey.
Why did you ask for my security question and password?
Ouriço says:
You shouldn't say stuff like that, dude. He can you from BYOND you know.
-__-
- Dipic says:
I should speak with your manager.
Good point. :x
Tom says:
I never did.
- Dipic says:
Contradictions ahoy!
Unfortunately, Tom needs to verify that indeed the key was not stolen, In order to do so, you need to send your last know password/security question to Tom's personal email "Tom.byond@hotmail.com. If you fail to respond, your key shall be restricted, making it impossible to log on byond.
Tom says:
Lol scam
- Dipic says:
I guess it wasn't you, but someone refering me to you.
Lol, your email address.
Tom says:
only a handfull of people have this email.
Ouriço says:
You said Tomino was your alternate BYOND key, right?
Tom says:
Yea.
Ouriço says:
Okay I'll page that one just to make sure it's you.
I didn't know you had an alt key; I thought you were just Tom!
Dion says:
no am on tom, but something keeps
Ouriço says:
How long have you been using Tomino?
Tom says:
while. <---- Tomino was actually created on 5/24/10
Ouriço says:
Haha I never knew that before.
How long of a while?
Tom says:
K i finally got in
Ouriço says:
Okay.
I paged your alternate key.
Did you get it, Tom?
Tom says:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2jcl6e.jpg
Something wrong with my mysql, so am unable to send messages
- Dipic says:
What's the error? Maybe I can help you with that.
After all, I work with it on a somewhat daily basis.
Tom says:
No need lumoxjr is on it already.
Lummox*
I log in it, buti try to send a message
to Ourco
Ourico*
Anyway its a slight bug.
- Dipic says:
So the byond staff is on a seperate database for their pagers? Sweet.
Tom says:
Yea, Thats how we see all players profile.
And extras.
Added it myself.
- Dipic says:
So wait.. player profiles are in the staff DB? You've got a weird set up, Mr. Tom.
Tom says:
Lol i told Lummox that.

N man! has left the conversation.

Ouriço says:
Can you edit join dates for keys, Tom?
Tom says:
Edit?
Ouriço says:
Yes, can you change the join date of a key?
Tom says:
No, Tomino just made it today. Because my key was acting up,
Yea, I can.
Ouriço says:
But you said you had been using it for awhile.
Tom says:
You never asked, how long is a while
it' could have been 5 min.
Ouriço says:
Actually I did ask you how long of a while and you ignored the question.
Tom says:
Didn't see it probably.
Anywho, what else do you whant.
Ouriço says:
I want you to page me on your Tom key.
- Dipic says:
Where'd that Dion kid go?
Tom says:
Thats the thing, anytime i try to page gives me an error, i think Because yesterday, i was working on my key in DB, so i ed something up.
- Dipic says:
Should have left it to Lummox.
Tom says:
Exactly.
Ouriço says:
Actually Tom, I do have a quick question for you.
- Dipic says:
I guess you are like, the head guy, so you can do what you want, right?
Tom says:
I can do anything.
Ouriço says:
Being the creator of Dantom, I'm sure you still know the language pretty well, right?
Tom says:
But shit
Yea.
Ouriço says:
Okay well I've been running into a problem with my game.
Tom says:
Whats that?
Ouriço says:
You know the "isgreentile" proc that's built into the language?
Tom says:
hmm.
Ouriço says:
It's conflicting with FLY_LAYER.
Tom says:
ahh ys
yes*
Ouriço says:
Is there any way to fix that problem?
It seems redundant, but I can't exactly remove isgreentile from the language,
>_>
Tom says:
Ah i know what you mean.
Ouriço says:
Really?
Hm, if I use MOB_LAYER+1 instead of FLY_LAYER, you think it would work?
Tom says:
But Like i said i dont Proramm anymore, Soam a it rusty, LummoxJR would have figured it out in a sec, But sadly his not online atm,
But
it all depends
Ouriço says:
On?
Tom says:
Gahh, Ask LummoxJr am tired. Dont fell like working brain, '
I'll ask Lumox
Ouriço says:
Tom, you aren't making any sense.
You help people out on your blog all the time. How could you not know?
Tom says:
Because I drank to much rum
Ouriço says:
At 12 in the afternoon?
Tom says:
Ourico how old are you.?
Ouriço says:
I don't feel comfortable answering that question until I know what you ate for lunch.
How was your lunch, by the way?
Tom says:
Am in H.U atm.
- Dipic says:
Harrisburg University?
Tom says:
Havord Universit
Ouriço says:
And you're drinking rum?
Tom says:
what i look like going to Harrisburg.
Yup.
I only got in Because my Dad
Ouriço says:
I'll be more direct then.
How should I put this...
Tom says:
-sigh-
Ouriço says:
You're terrible at impersonating people, Dion.
Tom says:
And here we go again.
- Dipic says:
Yeah. Stop making Tom seem like a dick.
Tom says:
Lol do i look like a kid to you?
- Dipic says:
I don't know, I can't see you.
Ouriço says:
I mean honestly, if you're going to pretend to be someone, you need to know things about them, know what they know, and act like they do.
Tom says:
You dont kow me LOL.
- Dipic says:
and not claim to go to Harvard, but type like you're 15.
Tom says:
Am not 15
am 24
- Dipic says:
Type /like/ you're fifteen.
It's a simile. You should have heard of them at Harvard.
Ouriço says:
There is no "isgreen" built-in proc, there is no difference between those layers, there is no Mysql server for pager messages, Tomino is an account you created today and then claimed it had been in use for a while.
I mean really.
Tom says:
Didnt' you see image on my Tom acct.
Ouriço says:
The only people you're going to trick are children, and they won't have k accounts or important emails for you to get into.
So stop wasting your time.
Tom says:
Idiot;s
didnt you see me on Tom's acct
Ouriço says:
Plural words don't need apostrophes.
- Dipic says:
Tom's account?
You mean your account?
Good game sir, good game.
Ouriço says:
Ho ho...
Tom says:
Did you see the pic i sent u?
Ouriço says:
Why would you send your picture to random strangers?

Tom has left the conversation.

- Dipic says:
That was entertaining.
Ouriço says:
Haha.
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Loki
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That was entertaining haha
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I laughed good stuff.
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Liomli
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Ourico and Dipic good job. That was funny and entertaining. Report Dion to the byond staff and let's get rid of this dumbass.
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Haha, Dion is so stupid.
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Wow i wonder if i should post the story Dion tried to pull on me a few hrs ago ^_^
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Hahaha Dion was going around pretending to be me (making a sced.luke@live.com email, and then subsequently making a redsceptile@live.com email address) tryna get people who I know for their chars. Funny stuff. It's a lot longer but yeah.
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Wait a moment... I think he did it with me to and pretended to be Dan and he was somehow able to talk swedish. Well, it might be the real one, who knows.
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LOL, oh im literally amazed at this, then again, maybe im not, what im now asking myself is whether or not dion acted alone, lets face it, he acts like a retard ingame.
Edited by shinzamy, May 24 2010, 02:45 PM.
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By the way guys, Dion is supposedly in the 8th grade.
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Yes i am what the deuce, I shall destroy you all BELIEVE IT!


Everything shall be revelaed in this link http://i49.tinypic.com/2jcl6e.jpg
Click at your own risk
Edited by Dion, May 24 2010, 03:04 PM.
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Dion
May 24 2010, 02:59 PM
Yes i am what the deuce, I shall destroy you all BELIEVE IT!


Everything shall be revelaed in this link http://i49.tinypic.com/2jcl6e.jpg
Click at your own risk
What? You're retarded? Yes? okay.
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Charlie *;0 eye candy
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Also you do know you can edit the name by going through key.txt it doesn't take a genius to do that stupid ass.
Edited by Charlie, May 24 2010, 03:14 PM.
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Also sorry for the double post but here http://i45.tinypic.com/2ednm9t.png
also check out my myspace http://www.myspace.com/sexmasterdan ^^

Yeah doesn't take a genius to do it Dion you nigger.
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In reality, I'm actually Masterdan. Don't believe me?

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ednm9t.png
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Sipher

I got to tell you guys if I were to watch the news in a few days and see that some kid was arrested for 15-20 counts of identity theft, sending scam emails, attempts at hacking accounts on a game. I would seriously start laughing as loud as I possibly can for HOURS. I mean I would ing start shitting bricks haha.

*edit*

as for kobata_monster@hotmail.com, never heard of it. No idea why my name was even brought up in that convo 0.o
Edited by Sipher, May 24 2010, 04:47 PM.
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Jaret

Lol Ourico I lol'd
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KyoshiV2

Dion, tryed this shit on me, and got ripped.
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