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BUFF Puppeter
Topic Started: Aug 31 2009, 09:06 PM (3,126 Views)
John Liriano
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buff puppeters

passive dont eff them like weak spot or bs

grab: takes about 5-10 secound to actully do it so there no way your actully going to be able to use it in a real fight

shild : there over 20 ways to get some one out of it like wtf is the point of getting it if even tai could get you out you got about 1 secound before they take you out of it

things that can take you out

exploding note

exploding kunie

great breakthrough

pressure damege

leaf great whirlwind

crt

rasenga

odama rasenga

water dragon

vortrex

shockwave

mudslid

nivane fist

gates

NORMAL TAI

kaiten

all deidara skills

meat tank

size up

Hidden knife shoot : weak spot should really eff HKS it does on a pro like 3 wound 6 if it gets a good hit and only 600-900 damege your secound puppet cant even have it if your first one has it already

Needle Gun: if you ask me its the secound worst puppet skill you can just walk daignal and it wont hit you at all it wont even shoot

poisend tinned blade : its the worst skill it actully donst eff HKS or Nleedle gun it only works with reguler attack and it just suck , sometimes it wont even work and if it works regen of a lvl 10 noob is actully higher then the poisends eff

Secound puppet : thats the most worthless skill in the game i never seen a skill so worth less

1 it cost 2000 skill poits

2 it cant have the same skill your first puppet haves like HKS

3 it looks just like the first one so your going to have to cheack its name to make sure you dont unsummand him and wait around 80 secounds before cd is gone ( come on dude you can even ask me to do another puppet if you need to )


Puppet henge: sucks plain and simple

puppet swap: only thing good about it is a quick getaway

the only skill worth getting its puppet it self

puppeters are the worst clan in the game only reason i'm still one is cause i'm a high lvl

alot of goa member would love it , if you gave them a buff they really need it


OH i almost forgot if you kill some one with HKS you DON'T EVEN GET THE KILL or anyother skill only poisend

We cant even macro weapons anymore.
Edited by John Liriano, Sep 1 2009, 05:29 PM.
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Ichigo
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supported.
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John Liriano
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:D
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Tiger

You're op john :P :D
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Meada Yami
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Frankly I support John fully Kobata you really need to address some of these issuses we are not trying to make our clans Op but we are trying to get them to a point where at lvl 100 they will be on par with other clans.


kobata thinks becuase suna can hold our own that his nerfs are fine but he doesnt realize that the reason we can hold are own is becuase we are skilled and now lvls are starting to get in the way and are clan jutsus are becomeing useless.

SS was proclaimed the most OP jutsu last wipe. The original affects of SS were 6 shurikens that fired off doing 600 stam damage and 6 wounf each.

First nerf: Only 5 shurikens fired off
Second nerf: Removes BS
Third Nerf: Weakens SS even more so now MAB a 1000 costing skill is way more effective than SS a 1750 costing skill plus a good waste of 600 chakra becuase you have to create sand which costs 300 chakra then make SS which has no guarentee of landing so thats a good waste of 600 chakra.

As far as i am concerned Kobata did way too much nerfing to the suna clans and didnt realy think about how lvls woulld affect the moves as people got stronger. Seriously i will go in a war for 10 mintutes and only use my SS like 7 times it really has just become competely useless. Its just too weak.

Like i said: kobata thinks becuase suna can hold our own that his nerfs are fine but he doesnt realize that the reason we can hold are own is becuase we are skilled and now lvls are starting to get in the way and are clan jutsus are becomeing useless

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John Liriano
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ty. . .
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Ichigo
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We should keep this topic about puppets or Kobata wont even bother looking at it with so much complaining, yami. And I'm not saying you re wrong. ;)
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Fisushi

I remember a conversation with Kash. He told me puppeteers can be the strongest ninjas if used correctly. They don't need a buff/nerf/balance/whatever, they are fine.
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John Liriano
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dude did you read my post shiled is worth less grab is worthless and gun is worthless(that means secound puppet is worth less cause it cant have the same skills as the first one), there no way a puppeter will be ok with what they got.

your just saying that cause your not a puppeter
Edited by John Liriano, Sep 1 2009, 07:45 PM.
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Armory
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since when cant 2 puppet have the same skill?? i was a puppet pre wipe. and i have both 1st and 2nd puppet and they both have knife and bomb equipped.

but i agree they need to be buffd a little since bomb doesnt stun anymore. at least make it so that you can put puppet weapons on macro again
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John Liriano
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they can't , you can try it but 2 puppets can't have the same skills it wont install and you got to buy another of the same skill to try it .just to find out it wont work plus it will get deleted after you relog
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Armory
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thats weird it didnt do that in the beta. does it say you cant put more than 3 items on the puppet or what? just curious
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John Liriano
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"A puppet can only equip 3 items." yeah it says it
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Armory
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thats just a little bug. each puppet can still equip 3 weapons. if it says that then just unequip all ur puppet weapons even the one thats not equipped then re equip them. that bugs been there since last wipe, thats all u gota do so they each can have 3 weapons.

btw you will probably get the bug everyime u relog
Edited by Armory, Sep 1 2009, 09:14 PM.
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John Liriano
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yeah but both puppets cant have the same skills
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Sky-San

why give u a buff
gaaras and puppeteers need a nerf
due to the fact the wounds and hidden knife does and is spammable and puppeteers r fine
gaaras abuse sand funerals stun after u use Sand funeral there is a 5 second stun to use jutsu like SS and by the time ur out of the stun ur koed
puppeteers are fine close this thread , u want a buff based on ur lack of skill
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TheMax1087

While i honestly couldnt care less about puppeteers(mostly because most of them are still abusing the koed poison bomb) the fact that their skills(or any item for that matter) still cant be macro'd since the skill card update is a problem.
Edited by TheMax1087, Sep 1 2009, 11:03 PM.
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Tiger

Sky-San
Sep 1 2009, 09:53 PM
why give u a buff
gaaras and puppeteers need a nerf
due to the fact the wounds and hidden knife does and is spammable and puppeteers r fine
gaaras abuse sand funerals stun after u use Sand funeral there is a 5 second stun to use jutsu like SS and by the time ur out of the stun ur koed
puppeteers are fine close this thread , u want a buff based on ur lack of skill
Crow the only thing u used is ruthless u never even tried puppeter so stfu..k? and lack of skills? John is one of the most skilled person on this game and do you even know how hard it is to land funeral? o right u never used gaaras.
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Espock
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supported but... i dont agree with weakspot effecting HKS that would be way op if you hit 2 HKS with full blindside and weakspot and not only that but HKS is aoe to -_-

also before they get buffed the few bugs should be fixed like how puppets follow you to your kawa then you just swap
poision still works on a koed person
Edited by Espock, Sep 2 2009, 01:27 AM.
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Roi of Kingz
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Well if the bugs are fixed more than likely they probably will be overpowered. I do want to say that they need to be reworked and their stun based style redone.
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Zeek
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I have used a puppeteer and a gaara im very skilled with gaaras so i think that this is something to consider if you buff this clan i say buff alll the other clans.
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John Liriano
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you mean in suna correct?
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Zeek
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yes and no
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John Liriano
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=/
Edited by John Liriano, Sep 2 2009, 09:03 AM.
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Ichigo
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I say fix puppet skill macros and puppet kills, so the puppetiers can actually get kills using their puppets.
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