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Nara Clan Balance; A Solution to a Problem
Topic Started: Aug 3 2009, 03:30 PM (571 Views)
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THIS post/topic is for those ppl who can't bother to check the Balance Suggestion Post >.> i mean its pinned @.@ and i dont always have the link at hand >.>


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My grammar sucks okay, so don't be surprise if you see mistakes >.> i never got any better with it, I will do my best and editing this post as best i can, so bare with me.
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OK, Its My Turn to put my thoughts into Words
Hi, This is Nara Leroy!

Ok Lets get into the Most Important Balance Suggestion, The Nara Clan

As some may not know, the nara clan was the most balanced clan before the update-which introduced the multi target system.

Now The Nara are considerably destroyed >.> But let me get to the Point;

1. Shadow Possession Justu
- It Seems that in the update that Shadow is either slower than it was before, and/or follows a different path to capture your(or its) target.
This new Shadow, is really a downgrade from its previous form, because now people who are two tiles away from you can dodge the shadow not by moving away but by simply moving a diagonal diamond/pentagon type movement for which the shadow cant seem to catch them -_- Before you u had be like at least more than 2 tiles away.
SUGGESTION: Well I suggest that you put the shadow back to the way it was before, there was never a problem with it in the first place.
-For some reason people who are caught in Shadow Possession Justus can just walk out of it within 1-2 secs of being caught . In fact you can Choke them, then they can walk out of it after being choked. Also if there is a point in which the target can walk out of shadow Possession then be choked, and now they're back in it (shadow possession) but they are separated from the initial shadow. This separation from the initial shadow can vary from 1-5 titles.(Well that's as much as i have seen/done so far). This needs to be fixed some how.
-And don't forget the Stun after using it, and the sliding you do when you miss....(which comes of if you press D then walk)

2. Sewing Needles (Awww, the problem of the Century)
-Well we all know the Problem with this >.> the stun after using it, is completely suicidal.
-The Needles itself(AFTER the update), does little damage, so......
SUGESSTION: I believe there is only a finite amount of ways to solve this problem, and They are:
1. 3-2R-1 Method
This basicaly is a method in which the number of needles change depending on the number of targets they have targeted
1 Target = 3 needles
2 Targets = 1 needle per target and a second to the closest target, if the two targets are equidistant from the user, then the second needle goes for 1 target randomly. ( if that is possible to code @.@)
3 Targets = 1 needle per target

2. 3-6-9 Method A.K.A 3 all the way or Multiplies of 3.
This method is pure and simply. The Number of Needles(n) depend on the number of Targets(t) x 3
3t=n;
=so if t = 1 then 3(1)= 3, t =2 then n=6, t=3 then n=9.

In simple terms, its 3 needles per target.

Now I know that with these methods there is another factor to include (or take in account) and that is the damage done. Right now, these are only methods i can think of:
``` One Way is the, "the more targets, then less focus you are so the less damage done- However if this way of damage is down the you can to taken into account the damage of choke, if the least amount of damage done by needles with the highest amount of targets then the damage has to be more that the damage done by choke if not then the cost of needles should be slightly reduce.
```Another way, a more direct way, is they ALL do they same damage no matter the amount of targets - if this method of damage is Done then, the cost of needles should be increase.

EDIT: Also you can adjust the cooldown time for needles to help balance things out.

This is just a possible solution i came up with, and I'm open to suggestions that help make my ideas even more balanced and acceptable.

Kobata I hope these ideas and suggestion may enlighten you to some some other ideas. Also When the BUG SECTION is up, i will post the list of bugs i found if they aren't posted already.

And Sorry if i didn't catch any other grammar mistakes.
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nara clan is fine right now. They did the right thing. It only makes sense that the less main clans should be weaker than the big ones like uchiha.
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Do you understand what GOA is about, it about balancing things, Clan, Justus, and Traits - if GOA was like the show then we all would be Jashins cuz we cant die 4 sh1t.

(yes im tight) you make no sense when you reply to a topic, i advice you to reconsider your thoughts before you take action.

How dare you say Nara Clan is Fine now "they did the right thing". Everyone who's a nara and not a nara Knows the Nara clan got Messed up with the update, and im just suggesting a possible solution.

You Justify your statement with an illogical reason, "a less main clan should be weaker than big ones like uchiha" -_- (im tight)
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Aug 3 2009, 10:18 PM
nara clan is fine right now. They did the right thing. It only makes sense that the less main clans should be weaker than the big ones like uchiha.
Your joking,right?...Nara's need to be fixed,perfect way to do it to.
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Fisushi

Well...What about we keeping the speed, making it cost more chakra and make it impossible for people to kawa out of it when caught? [Just for shadow possession]
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naras should be support. They we'ren't messed up, they were evened out. I personnally think they were way oped, so now it makes sense from multiple angles. You're just pissed cuz you cant cheap people to death anymore. I think they should just be support. You're putting words in my mouth btw. I said that main ones should be a "little" better. I didn't say that powerful ones from the show should be as powerful as they are. but you are partially right. It didn't make much sense looking back, but you don't have to bash me for it. And not being able to kawa away from shadow possesion would make them the most powerful clan in the game. I think naras should be support, immobablizing the enemy for others to finish them. They shouldn't be able to kill in 3 shadow strangles (over exageration) but in the dojo I found it impossible to avoid naras and quite difficult in open spaces. That's my point of view take it or ignore it.
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Supersonic117
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It's called balance,and btw,who cares about the dojo.
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Roi of Kingz
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You guys should stop even reading what Shipo types. Hes just a newbie, doesn't know much of anything; even though he could have played for months or years. Now the nara clan's bind is bugged at the moment. The concerns with the needle is another thing that needs to be looked at damage wise but then again the maximum stamina for most characters has been decreased. 2k at the most. 3-3.5 with pp at the max per needle. That or just shorten the cooldown and fix the bug part of it.
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Sry. I've never really played much as a nara, just suffered the effects of it's techniques. No I never played much so, yes I am a newbie(but thats because I have a life :P ). For the longest time I was a taijutsu spammer. But I tried using a nara and it was weaker than before and you were all mostly right. I usually write these comments after midnight, and don't think about them, so I apologize for all I've wrote so far, and will think hard before clicking post reply. I will try to stop being stupid but it's a hard habit to break! :blink:
Edited by Shipomaster, Aug 6 2009, 03:09 PM.
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Lightning
Aug 3 2009, 10:28 PM
Do you understand what GOA is about, it about balancing things, Clan, Justus, and Traits - if GOA was like the show then we all would be Jashins cuz we cant die 4 sh1t.

(yes im tight) you make no sense when you reply to a topic, i advice you to reconsider your thoughts before you take action.

How dare you say Nara Clan is Fine now "they did the right thing". Everyone who's a nara and not a nara Knows the Nara clan got Messed up with the update, and im just suggesting a possible solution.

You Justify your statement with an illogical reason, "a less main clan should be weaker than big ones like uchiha" -_- (im tight)

GOA is just about who can be the most OP, what is OP, How to kill and be OP.
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I have another idea, but i want to hear other people's opinion, do you think nara's should be allowed to use F when binding someone in shadow imitation?
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Ariesowns
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It would be awesome if naras where able to use weapons on a captured foe,Kinda bring the whole shikimaru thing to it.
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