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Judge throws out SF and Oakland climate suits against big oil
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Topic Started: Jun 27 2018, 07:32 AM (47 Views)
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Jim Miller
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Jun 27 2018, 07:32 AM
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Judge throws out SF and Oakland climate suits against big oil
A federal judge Monday tossed out two groundbreaking lawsuits by San Francisco and Oakland that sought to hold some of the world’s largest oil companies liable for climate change.
In an exhaustive, 16-page ruling that touched on such scientific matters as the ice age and early observations of carbon dioxide, U.S. District Judge William Alsup acknowledged the problem of a warming planet but said it is just too big for the courts to solve.
The cities are trying to get five oil and gas giants, including Bay Area-based Chevron, to help cover the costs of dealing with sea-level rise, like picking up the tab for seawalls. However, Alsup, noting that Congress and the White House, not the judiciary, are responsible for addressing the fallout from fossil fuels, granted the industry’s request to dismiss the suits.
“The problem deserves a solution on a more vast scale than can be supplied by a district judge or jury in a public nuisance case,” he wrote.
The two cases are among the first of many nationwide that have recently attempted to force the oil industry to pay for what might amount to hundreds of billions of dollars to combat climate change. While the other municipalities, including a handful in California as well as New York City and Kings County, Wash., are closely following what happens in the Bay Area, Monday’s decision does not affect the cases in other courts. LINK
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Brewster
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Jun 27 2018, 07:44 AM
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At leas the judge realized that it's a big, big problem that Congress should be addressing.
He mentioned Trump too, but that Nincompoop has already done enough damage,
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Berton
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Jun 27 2018, 09:14 AM
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"The point is, even if you are a convinced thermageddonite, trial lawyers aren’t going to save the planet."
But I give them a D- for trying.
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Jun 27 2018, 09:40 AM
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- Jim Miller
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Judge throws out SF and Oakland climate suits against big oil
A federal judge Monday tossed out two groundbreaking lawsuits by San Francisco and Oakland that sought to hold some of the world’s largest oil companies liable for climate change.
In an exhaustive, 16-page ruling that touched on such scientific matters as the ice age and early observations of carbon dioxide, U.S. District Judge William Alsup acknowledged the problem of a warming planet but said it is just too big for the courts to solve.
The cities are trying to get five oil and gas giants, including Bay Area-based Chevron, to help cover the costs of dealing with sea-level rise, like picking up the tab for seawalls. However, Alsup, noting that Congress and the White House, not the judiciary, are responsible for addressing the fallout from fossil fuels, granted the industry’s request to dismiss the suits.
“The problem deserves a solution on a more vast scale than can be supplied by a district judge or jury in a public nuisance case,” he wrote.
The two cases are among the first of many nationwide that have recently attempted to force the oil industry to pay for what might amount to hundreds of billions of dollars to combat climate change. While the other municipalities, including a handful in California as well as New York City and Kings County, Wash., are closely following what happens in the Bay Area, Monday’s decision does not affect the cases in other courts. LINK If San Franciscan's and Oaklander's are really concerned about the oil companies they should just stop using gasoline and diesel fuel and natural gas and jet fuel and..................
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Berton
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Jun 27 2018, 10:18 AM
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I have yet to see an alarmist who is ready to give up all forms of carbon.
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