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IG report in a nutshell
Topic Started: Jun 16 2018, 01:23 AM (110 Views)
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1. Comey looks bad procedurally but not legally

2. The FBI looks bad politically but not legally

3. The report is vindication for Clinton

4. The report doesn’t mean much for the Russia probe — and that’s what really matters now


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-500-page-inspector-generals-report-in-900-words/
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The Republican-led house will be trying to pass new law with a 20 year jail penalty for looking bad.
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Let's see, you have agents caught colluding to keep Trump from winning the election, you have Comey and Lynch and ...never mind. A conspiracy to deny Bernie and Trump the Whitehouse is not important to some people. They would rather accept the lies from a corrupted Justice department and FBI. Next thing I'll find out is these same people believe the global warming hoax. Oh wait...
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Jun 16 2018, 02:53 AM
Let's see, you have agents caught colluding to keep Trump from winning the election,
A Lie

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you have Comey and Lynch and ...never mind.
Exactly. If anything, they helped Trump win. I'd have thought you'd be happy

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A conspiracy to deny Bernie and Trump the Whitehouse is not important to some people.
An internal Democratic matter that I'm sure they're correcting - on their own - it has nothing to do with anyone else, especially Republicans.]

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They would rather accept the lies from a corrupted Justice department and FBI.
A Huge Trumpian Lie - you should be embarrassed even posting it.

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Next thing I'll find out is these same people believe the global warming hoax. Oh wait...
A lie. Beyond that a dangerous lie that flies in the face of every warning from every qualified scientist in the world. And will do even more damage then Trump, but it comes with its own penalties.

Unfortunately, in every one of these cases, particularly the last, we'll all get penalized for a few biased idiots' Political BS.
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Facts: (something Post 1 ignores)

IG Report on Clinton Investigation Leaves Gowdy ‘Alarmed, Angry, and Deeply Disappointed’
GOP congressman says the DOJ needs to restore faith in the justice system after bias revealed in

BY: Paul Crookston
June 14, 2018 2:39 pm

House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) issued a blistering statement Thursday criticizing the Department of Justice’s "numerous failures" in investigating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Gowdy said he is "alarmed, angered, and deeply disappointed" by Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s findings, which were released in a report to Congress Thursday, and he told Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray to take "decisive action restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system." He said the IG report showed the investigation into potential Espionage Act violations by Clinton deviated from standard procedure "in favor of a much more permissive and voluntary approach."

"This is not the way normal investigations are run," Gowdy said. "The investigatory conclusions were reached before the end of the witness interviews. The July 5th press conference marked a serious violation of policy and process. And the letters to Congress in the fall of 2016 were both delayed in substance and unnecessary in form."

Gowdy zeroed in on how the treatment of Clinton and her associates was "starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials."

"Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter," Gowdy said. "Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not."

In addition, he alluded to the text messages between FBI investigator Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, in which Strzok said "we’ll stop" Trump from becoming president. Gowdy said his messages show "manifest bias trending toward animus," which "casts a pall on this investigation."

"Bias is so pernicious and malignant as to both taint the process, the result, and the ability to have confidence in either," he said.

Gowdy accused former FBI Director James Comey of violating established policy, judging such violations as a problem for the department.

"Former Director Comey violated Department policy in several significant ways," he said. "The FBI’s actions and those of former Director Comey severely damaged the credibility of the investigation, the public’s ability to rely on the results of the investigation, and the very institutions he claims to revere."

Gowdy finished by saying "questionable decision making by FBI and DOJ leadership destroys confidence in the impartiality of the institutions I have long served, respected, and believed in."

"This is not the FBI I know. This is not the FBI our country needs. This is not the FBI citizens and suspects alike deserve," he said. "It is now urgently incumbent on Attorney General Sessions and Director Wray to take decisive action to restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system."
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"Bias is pernicious" - the truest thing Gowdy ever said - he probably learned it looking around at the Republican caucus.
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Facts: (something Post 1 ignores)

IG Report on Clinton Investigation Leaves Gowdy ‘Alarmed, Angry, and Deeply Disappointed’
GOP congressman says the DOJ needs to restore faith in the justice system after bias revealed in

BY: Paul Crookston
June 14, 2018 2:39 pm

House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) issued a blistering statement Thursday criticizing the Department of Justice’s "numerous failures" in investigating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Gowdy said he is "alarmed, angered, and deeply disappointed" by Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s findings, which were released in a report to Congress Thursday, and he told Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray to take "decisive action restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system." He said the IG report showed the investigation into potential Espionage Act violations by Clinton deviated from standard procedure "in favor of a much more permissive and voluntary approach."

"This is not the way normal investigations are run," Gowdy said. "The investigatory conclusions were reached before the end of the witness interviews. The July 5th press conference marked a serious violation of policy and process. And the letters to Congress in the fall of 2016 were both delayed in substance and unnecessary in form."

Gowdy zeroed in on how the treatment of Clinton and her associates was "starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials."

"Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter," Gowdy said. "Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not."

In addition, he alluded to the text messages between FBI investigator Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, in which Strzok said "we’ll stop" Trump from becoming president. Gowdy said his messages show "manifest bias trending toward animus," which "casts a pall on this investigation."

"Bias is so pernicious and malignant as to both taint the process, the result, and the ability to have confidence in either," he said.

Gowdy accused former FBI Director James Comey of violating established policy, judging such violations as a problem for the department.

"Former Director Comey violated Department policy in several significant ways," he said. "The FBI’s actions and those of former Director Comey severely damaged the credibility of the investigation, the public’s ability to rely on the results of the investigation, and the very institutions he claims to revere."

Gowdy finished by saying "questionable decision making by FBI and DOJ leadership destroys confidence in the impartiality of the institutions I have long served, respected, and believed in."

"This is not the FBI I know. This is not the FBI our country needs. This is not the FBI citizens and suspects alike deserve," he said. "It is now urgently incumbent on Attorney General Sessions and Director Wray to take decisive action to restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system."
Well Gowdy and the GOP spent four years and 20 million bucks going after Clinton. Four committees, all republican led. could not get anything on her.

Maybe you should start getting rid of house members?


They seem terribly incompetent
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Facts: (something Post 1 ignores)

IG Report on Clinton Investigation Leaves Gowdy ‘Alarmed, Angry, and Deeply Disappointed’
GOP congressman says the DOJ needs to restore faith in the justice system after bias revealed in

BY: Paul Crookston
June 14, 2018 2:39 pm

House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) issued a blistering statement Thursday criticizing the Department of Justice’s "numerous failures" in investigating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Gowdy said he is "alarmed, angered, and deeply disappointed" by Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s findings, which were released in a report to Congress Thursday, and he told Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray to take "decisive action restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system." He said the IG report showed the investigation into potential Espionage Act violations by Clinton deviated from standard procedure "in favor of a much more permissive and voluntary approach."

"This is not the way normal investigations are run," Gowdy said. "The investigatory conclusions were reached before the end of the witness interviews. The July 5th press conference marked a serious violation of policy and process. And the letters to Congress in the fall of 2016 were both delayed in substance and unnecessary in form."

Gowdy zeroed in on how the treatment of Clinton and her associates was "starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials."

"Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter," Gowdy said. "Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not."

In addition, he alluded to the text messages between FBI investigator Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, in which Strzok said "we’ll stop" Trump from becoming president. Gowdy said his messages show "manifest bias trending toward animus," which "casts a pall on this investigation."

"Bias is so pernicious and malignant as to both taint the process, the result, and the ability to have confidence in either," he said.

Gowdy accused former FBI Director James Comey of violating established policy, judging such violations as a problem for the department.

"Former Director Comey violated Department policy in several significant ways," he said. "The FBI’s actions and those of former Director Comey severely damaged the credibility of the investigation, the public’s ability to rely on the results of the investigation, and the very institutions he claims to revere."

Gowdy finished by saying "questionable decision making by FBI and DOJ leadership destroys confidence in the impartiality of the institutions I have long served, respected, and believed in."

"This is not the FBI I know. This is not the FBI our country needs. This is not the FBI citizens and suspects alike deserve," he said. "It is now urgently incumbent on Attorney General Sessions and Director Wray to take decisive action to restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system."
Well Gowdy and the GOP spent four years and 20 million bucks going after Clinton. Four committees, all republican led. could not get anything on her.

Maybe you should start getting rid of house members?


They seem terribly incompetent
No, they had here dead on, the Obama justice department and FBI wouldn't bag her and gut her.
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Facts: (something Post 1 ignores)

IG Report on Clinton Investigation Leaves Gowdy ‘Alarmed, Angry, and Deeply Disappointed’
GOP congressman says the DOJ needs to restore faith in the justice system after bias revealed in

BY: Paul Crookston
June 14, 2018 2:39 pm

House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) issued a blistering statement Thursday criticizing the Department of Justice’s "numerous failures" in investigating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Gowdy said he is "alarmed, angered, and deeply disappointed" by Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s findings, which were released in a report to Congress Thursday, and he told Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray to take "decisive action restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system." He said the IG report showed the investigation into potential Espionage Act violations by Clinton deviated from standard procedure "in favor of a much more permissive and voluntary approach."

"This is not the way normal investigations are run," Gowdy said. "The investigatory conclusions were reached before the end of the witness interviews. The July 5th press conference marked a serious violation of policy and process. And the letters to Congress in the fall of 2016 were both delayed in substance and unnecessary in form."

Gowdy zeroed in on how the treatment of Clinton and her associates was "starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials."

"Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter," Gowdy said. "Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not."

In addition, he alluded to the text messages between FBI investigator Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, in which Strzok said "we’ll stop" Trump from becoming president. Gowdy said his messages show "manifest bias trending toward animus," which "casts a pall on this investigation."

"Bias is so pernicious and malignant as to both taint the process, the result, and the ability to have confidence in either," he said.

Gowdy accused former FBI Director James Comey of violating established policy, judging such violations as a problem for the department.

"Former Director Comey violated Department policy in several significant ways," he said. "The FBI’s actions and those of former Director Comey severely damaged the credibility of the investigation, the public’s ability to rely on the results of the investigation, and the very institutions he claims to revere."

Gowdy finished by saying "questionable decision making by FBI and DOJ leadership destroys confidence in the impartiality of the institutions I have long served, respected, and believed in."

"This is not the FBI I know. This is not the FBI our country needs. This is not the FBI citizens and suspects alike deserve," he said. "It is now urgently incumbent on Attorney General Sessions and Director Wray to take decisive action to restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system."
Well Gowdy and the GOP spent four years and 20 million bucks going after Clinton. Four committees, all republican led. could not get anything on her.

Maybe you should start getting rid of house members?


They seem terribly incompetent
No, they had here dead on, the Obama justice department and FBI wouldn't bag her and gut her.
Crimes committed remain. The Justice Department is now Republican. Better hurry Clinton is now in her seventies.

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Facts: (something Post 1 ignores)

IG Report on Clinton Investigation Leaves Gowdy ‘Alarmed, Angry, and Deeply Disappointed’
GOP congressman says the DOJ needs to restore faith in the justice system after bias revealed in

BY: Paul Crookston
June 14, 2018 2:39 pm

House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) issued a blistering statement Thursday criticizing the Department of Justice’s "numerous failures" in investigating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Gowdy said he is "alarmed, angered, and deeply disappointed" by Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s findings, which were released in a report to Congress Thursday, and he told Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray to take "decisive action restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system." He said the IG report showed the investigation into potential Espionage Act violations by Clinton deviated from standard procedure "in favor of a much more permissive and voluntary approach."

"This is not the way normal investigations are run," Gowdy said. "The investigatory conclusions were reached before the end of the witness interviews. The July 5th press conference marked a serious violation of policy and process. And the letters to Congress in the fall of 2016 were both delayed in substance and unnecessary in form."

Gowdy zeroed in on how the treatment of Clinton and her associates was "starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials."

"Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter," Gowdy said. "Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not."

In addition, he alluded to the text messages between FBI investigator Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, in which Strzok said "we’ll stop" Trump from becoming president. Gowdy said his messages show "manifest bias trending toward animus," which "casts a pall on this investigation."

"Bias is so pernicious and malignant as to both taint the process, the result, and the ability to have confidence in either," he said.

Gowdy accused former FBI Director James Comey of violating established policy, judging such violations as a problem for the department.

"Former Director Comey violated Department policy in several significant ways," he said. "The FBI’s actions and those of former Director Comey severely damaged the credibility of the investigation, the public’s ability to rely on the results of the investigation, and the very institutions he claims to revere."

Gowdy finished by saying "questionable decision making by FBI and DOJ leadership destroys confidence in the impartiality of the institutions I have long served, respected, and believed in."

"This is not the FBI I know. This is not the FBI our country needs. This is not the FBI citizens and suspects alike deserve," he said. "It is now urgently incumbent on Attorney General Sessions and Director Wray to take decisive action to restore Americans’ confidence in our justice system."
Well Gowdy and the GOP spent four years and 20 million bucks going after Clinton. Four committees, all republican led. could not get anything on her.

Maybe you should start getting rid of house members?


They seem terribly incompetent
No, they had here dead on, the Obama justice department and FBI wouldn't bag her and gut her.
Crimes committed remain. The Justice Department is now Republican. Better hurry Clinton is now in her seventies.

Waiting.........................................................
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