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Obama Lied When He Said He Knew Nothing About Hillary’s Secret E-mail Scheme
Topic Started: Jun 15 2018, 11:52 PM (350 Views)
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ImaHeadaU
Jun 18 2018, 11:10 AM
Berton
Jun 18 2018, 10:48 AM
Read Brewster's whining about "scheme".
Do you have anything to indicate indicate that President Obama knew those e-mail messages he received from Secretary-General Clinton came from her private e-mail server?
Why are you so obtuse? The president's e-mails are recorded and viewed prior to his reading them if they are from a government official. Those reviewing them would pass on where they came from. You argue the dumbest points.
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Pat, I must agree - Ima and I argue the dumbest points, but it's all you Righties ever post.

But now you've added a new layer to this discussion - you've substituted a "government official" for the President himself. Nothing else changes.

This "official" still has no idea what server sent a given message, and the only way he COULD know is if he had a dedicated computer nerd chasing down the originating source of every message, regardless of how trusted the sender, such as the President's own Secretary of State, a doubtful scenario at best.

Actually, considering the huge volume of emails a President is likely to get, and from a huge number of senders and sources, and how long each trace would take, (Yes, I'm sure it could be programmed, but it still takes a finite length of time, and then the results still have to be read by a human) it would take a rather LARGE team of nerds, working around the clock, to track back every server in the country - a job guaranteed to drive anyone - or any team - insane.

So the question becomes - why are YOU so obtuse?

On Edit - I just looked it up - the President averages about 100,000 emails a day, seven days a week
Edited by Brewster, Jun 19 2018, 02:36 AM.
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When you send an e-mail do you have to know the address you are sending it to?

I don't know about you but I do.




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Good for you. So what?
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Berton
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Obama sent e-mails to Thunder Thighs through her server.

That would be her address and it would not be a government address.

Think man, think.

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Jun 19 2018, 09:15 AM
Obama sent e-mails to Thunder Thighs through her server.
I don't know whether this is true or not but I haven't seen anything reliable that supports the claim.

Have you?

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That would be her address and it would not be a government address.

You seem to suggest that President Obama shouldn't have received any e-mail messages not from "a government address." Clearly that wasn't the case when it would have been a simple thing for White House IT to set up. It must have been set up to receive e-mail from other sources. That being the case, it could be that President Obama spent his limited time dealing with the message rather than the server it came from.
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Jun 19 2018, 09:15 AM
Obama sent e-mails to Thunder Thighs through her server.

That would be her address and it would not be a government address.

Think man, think.

C'mon, Berton - even you are not that dense.

An email address is simply a human-readable address linked to the present digital address of a customer's inbox. And it's only vaguely related to the actual server inbox, as that address can change.

I've been using the same email address for over a quarter of a century - I used it at work, and I use it on personal travel now.

In that time, I sent and received emails to/from more countries and cities than I can remember. Once or twice, I even moved my inbox by changing the digital code.

My email address ends in Telus.Net. However, Telus has servers all over Canada, each with varying degrees of security, which isn't part of the address. Any non-technical person who tried to figure out where I was, what I was cleared for, and what server I was using by looking at my email address would be pretty thoroughly confused by now.

You are correct that someone could follow the trail back to Hillary's inbox if they thought there was a security issue, and figure out that it is or isn't linked to the government server, but it wouldn't be Joe Average User, as I said before. And it sure as aitch-ee-doublehockeysticks wouldn't be a President and his non-technical staff looking through 100,000 emails a day.

On Edit: Oh, By the Way,I don't expect you to admit you're wrong in this board, as you never do, but everyone including you knows the truth by now,
Edited by Brewster, Jun 19 2018, 10:53 AM.
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Jun 19 2018, 09:33 AM
Berton
Jun 19 2018, 09:15 AM
Obama sent e-mails to Thunder Thighs through her server.
I don't know whether this is true or not but I haven't seen anything reliable that supports the claim.

Have you?

You:
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That would be her address and it would not be a government address.

You seem to suggest that President Obama shouldn't have received any e-mail messages not from "a government address." Clearly that wasn't the case when it would have been a simple thing for White House IT to set up. It must have been set up to receive e-mail from other sources. That being the case, it could be that President Obama spent his limited time dealing with the message rather than the server it came from.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/obama-on-clintons-emails/

Good enough or are you going to start playing one of your word games?



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Jun 19 2018, 10:43 AM
Berton
Jun 19 2018, 09:15 AM
Obama sent e-mails to Thunder Thighs through her server.

That would be her address and it would not be a government address.

Think man, think.

C'mon, Berton - even you are not that dense.

An email address is simply a human-readable address linked to the present digital address of a customer's inbox. And it's only vaguely related to the actual server inbox, as that address can change.

I've been using the same email address for over a quarter of a century - I used it at work, and I use it on personal travel now.

In that time, I sent and received emails to/from more countries and cities than I can remember. Once or twice, I even moved my inbox by changing the digital code.

My email address ends in Telus.Net. However, Telus has servers all over Canada, each with varying degrees of security, which isn't part of the address. Any non-technical person who tried to figure out where I was, what I was cleared for, and what server I was using by looking at my email address would be pretty thoroughly confused by now.

You are correct that someone could follow the trail back to Hillary's inbox if they thought there was a security issue, and figure out that it is or isn't linked to the government server, but it wouldn't be Joe Average User, as I said before. And it sure as aitch-ee-doublehockeysticks wouldn't be a President and his non-technical staff looking through 100,000 emails a day.

On Edit: Oh, By the Way,I don't expect you to admit you're wrong in this board, as you never do, but everyone including you knows the truth by now,
So your address has .net at the end of it.

ALL government accounts have .gov at the end of their addresses. Thunder Thighs' address would not have .gov at the end.

Think man, think.


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Jun 19 2018, 07:29 PM
ImaHeadaU
Jun 19 2018, 09:33 AM
Berton
Jun 19 2018, 09:15 AM
Obama sent e-mails to Thunder Thighs through her server.
I don't know whether this is true or not but I haven't seen anything reliable that supports the claim.

Have you?

You:
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That would be her address and it would not be a government address.

You seem to suggest that President Obama shouldn't have received any e-mail messages not from "a government address." Clearly that wasn't the case when it would have been a simple thing for White House IT to set up. It must have been set up to receive e-mail from other sources. That being the case, it could be that President Obama spent his limited time dealing with the message rather than the server it came from.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/obama-on-clintons-emails/
In your first link the White House quote is unclear whether e-mail sent by President Obama went to her private e-mail server but they may well have. Still, it doesn't indicate that he had any knowledge of her personal e-mail server.

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“The point that the president was making is not that he didn’t know Secretary Clinton’s email address, he did,” Earnest said. “But he was not aware of the details of how that email address and that server had been set up or how Secretary Clinton and her team were planning to comply with the Federal Records Act.”

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Earnest, March 9: [T]he president was referring specifically to the arrangement associated with Secretary Clinton’s email. Yes, the president was aware of her email address. He traded emails with her. That shouldn’t be a surprise that the president of the United States is going to trade emails with the secretary of state. But the president was not aware of the fact that this was a personal email server and that this was the email address that she was using exclusively for all her business. The president was not aware of that until that had been more widely reported.
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