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| Thumper | Jun 14 2018, 10:49 AM Post #71 |
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So now our wonderman Brew is a Kanadian govt operative. What a guy! !ol |
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| Brewster | Jun 14 2018, 10:55 AM Post #72 |
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Cut the crap, Berton. You're the one who wants to deal with one narrow section - you refuse to admit there's any connection between your subsidies and our tariffs. And now you want pick up Ban's diversion about tariffs in general without mentioning subsidies at all. Yes, our tariffs are higher, because your subsidies are higher. It's the only way we can protect our producers.
When you're ready to discuss the balance between tariffs and subsidies like an adult, I'll listen. |
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| Brewster | Jun 14 2018, 10:57 AM Post #73 |
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And you're becoming a world class BS'r. Anything useful to add, or are you just going to stick with the silliness? |
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| Thumper | Jun 14 2018, 11:00 AM Post #74 |
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Yes, I will stick with your silliness Kanadian Citizen Statesman. You da man. ?
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| Brewster | Jun 14 2018, 11:20 AM Post #75 |
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I guess we all should stick with what we know best. Silly it is for Thump. |
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| Thumper | Jun 14 2018, 11:24 AM Post #76 |
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You should also stick with what you know not with every little lefty fairy tale dujour. |
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| Banandangees | Jun 14 2018, 02:56 PM Post #77 |
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A better word for me to have used would have been fiscal "BURDEN" for supporting NATO's purposes and the total defense of all member nations. II. BURDEN SHARING IN THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT 6. The debate about fair sharing of the burden is as old as the Alliance itself. When the Alliance was founded in 1949, the economies of the European allies were still recovering from the devastating impact of the Second World War. The United States provided assistance with its “European Recovery Program (ERP)”, the Marshall Plan, while extending its conventional and nuclear “umbrella” to deter Soviet/Warsaw Pact aggression. As Europe’s economies grew, so did the intensity of debates on Alliance burden sharing. The main feature of those debates was the perceived imbalance in the United States’ contribution to the common defence compared to other Allies. Canada didn't have the same fiscal problems that many European nations had after the war as the war wasn't fought on Canadian soil, and therefore didn't have the same reason for not complying with the NATO fiscal recommendations through the decades. I mean, Canada is advertised as a wealthy, happy nation..... in comparison. |
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| Banandangees | Jun 14 2018, 08:22 PM Post #78 |
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I keep up "the charade" because it's an important FACT that puts a heavy view on why the issue of tariffs has come up. It's the major impetus of it all. Of the EU, Canada and the U.S., Canada leads. As far a subsidies go: Canadians pay hefty $684B bill in business subsidies over 30 years, study shows Over a period of nearly 20-years, federal, provincial and local authorities together spent almost $684-billion on subsidies, mainly to private corporations — and the impact on consumers was marginal at best, says new Fraser Institute study Here is a many page list of links to Canada's business subsidies: List And yes, the list of subsidies in the U.S. is longer than that of Canada, but the GDP (result of business produced products and that must compete Canada and the world) is 12 times the size of Canada's and Canada's businesses that are affected by foreign tariffs and subsidies. Trump is just trying (with taxpayer approval) to level the playing field.... and has suggested doing away, all together, with tariffs and subsidies that affect trade. Naturally, Canada and the world won't want to do it because they are at the fiscal advantage in trading with the U.S.. What could be more fair trading than "no tariffs and no subsides" that affect trade? |
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| Pat | Jun 15 2018, 12:51 AM Post #79 |
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I thought you wanted to have honest discussions. Of course Canada subsidizes agriculture, why lie? http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/tpp-pressures-canada-on-ag-subsidies |
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| Jim Miller | Jun 15 2018, 12:53 AM Post #80 |
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Oops. (chuckle) |
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