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| Berton | Jun 13 2018, 10:20 AM Post #51 |
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Why don't you want to talk about Canadian subsidies and tariffs? |
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| Berton | Jun 13 2018, 09:24 PM Post #52 |
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| Brewster | Jun 13 2018, 10:52 PM Post #53 |
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Nonsense, Berton. "Fair" doesn't enter into the equation.The US pays the most into its military because it wants to be the biggest, the toughest guy on the block. The fact that it helps NATO is just a happy accident - an excuse. If NATO didn't exist, the US would probably have an even bigger military - it certainly wouldn't be any smaller. |
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| Brewster | Jun 13 2018, 10:54 PM Post #54 |
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You already lost that discussion, Berton - There are no taxpayer paid subsidies on Milk in Canada, and the Tariffs are there to compensate for the taxpayer-paid subsidies US Farmers get. Drop your subsides, and we'll drop the tariffs - fair is fair. Time for you to move on. Edited by Brewster, Jun 13 2018, 11:02 PM.
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| Jim Miller | Jun 13 2018, 11:07 PM Post #55 |
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I see our Canadian ass foreigner is butting into our business again. We must be too nice for him to stay away or the haters forum is too busy and he can't get a word in edge-wise. Edited by Jim Miller, Jun 13 2018, 11:07 PM.
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| Brewster | Jun 13 2018, 11:09 PM Post #56 |
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No, your butting into OUR business, trying to manage our trade and internal subsidies for us.
Edited by Brewster, Jun 13 2018, 11:09 PM.
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| Banandangees | Jun 13 2018, 11:24 PM Post #57 |
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Bert, it's not just you and the leader of the USA who feels fiscally over burdened regarding the funding of NATO, it's every taxpaying citizen of the U.S. who, by-far, funds most of NATO's military expenditures. The NATO nations who don't pay NATO's recommended (2% of GDP has always been NATO's recommendation and it's literature has shown that), Brew says, "The US pays the most into its military because it wants to be the biggest, the toughest guy on the block. It does it because the others (a few exceptions) don't. It pays the biggest because it lives up to and exceeds NATO's recommended % of GDP and because nations like Canada chose to be stragglers.... the tag of a liberal nation. It's the American tax payer (the ones who pay federal income taxes) who is tired of paying for the protection of the straggler nations..... which is just another reason Trump won the election and Hillary didn't. And, as far as the title of this thread goes, Canada imposes tariffs[/I], they didn't have to. When it comes to the U.S., Canada and the EU, Canada is already #1: Again: The fact remains: "Recent World Trade Organization data shows that America's average tariff for imported goods is 2.4%. Canada's average tariff for imported goods is 3.1%, and the EU's average tariff for imported goods is 3%. That's: Canada - 3.1% EU - 3.0% US - 2.4% ----------- (Brew says that he always deals in facts. What he wrote here is his opinion, the above are (according to the WTO) the facts. |
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| Berton | Jun 13 2018, 11:25 PM Post #58 |
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Obviously, Brewster is used to sucking at the US teat and does not want to be weened. |
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| Banandangees | Jun 13 2018, 11:34 PM Post #59 |
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Trump, on national TV (at least shown on FOX, perhaps not others), suggested doing away with tariffs and said he did not like using subsidies. Ima wrote, "The U.S. is the only member to ever have requested support from other members when it went after the Taliban." The Taliban was protecting a path to safety for OBL. Why should the U.S. have to ask any NATO nation for support. It's a given in the NATO Articles. The NATO nations should be actively sending troops and military materials. How many NATO nations are sending troops and military materials to fight ISIS? Why should they have to be asked? |
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| ImaHeadaU | Jun 14 2018, 12:15 AM Post #60 |
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If you are referring to the funds expended on each member's defense as a percentage of GDP, those expenditures are not NATO expenditures. The U.S. puts their level of defense spending in place to meet its own desires not NATO's. Given the size of the U.S. economy, if each NATO member including the U.S. spent exactly 2% of their GDP on their defense these days, the U.S. spending would still be the largest relative to other members. If you find this unfair, you can try to renegotiate the terms of NATO membership or you could lower the U.S. GPD relative to other NATO members. |
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