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Did anyone really expect anything different from Obama?
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Topic Started: Dec 27 2016, 07:59 PM (249 Views)
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Dec 27 2016, 07:59 PM
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Alan Dershowitz, a liberal Democrat, certainly did. Before the election, Obama called Dershowitz into the Oval Office and asked Dershowitz for his support (the Jewish support) and that he would "always have Israel's back." How often have we heard that from Obama. How could Alan be so blind? He got sucked in by Obama's charismatic, lying rhetoric. Watch the video. click on picture of Dershowitz:
'Appalling' Obama 'Stabbed Israel in Back'
Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz slammed President Obama for "betraying" Israel by allowing a US abstention in a UN security council vote condemning Israeli settlements and preventing Jews from praying at the 'Western Wall'.
Dershowitz said Obama will be remembered as one of the worst presidents in the foreign policy arena and said he created a "terrible conflict" for people who share other tenets of his ideology.
"Many [liberal Democrats] like me who support his domestic policy think he was an appalling... president when it came to foreign policy," Dershowitz said.[/i]
But Alan isn't the only one surprised but now open-eyed. And, not the only Democrat:
Obama Shafts Israel (Daily News)
Obama takes parting shot at Israel... and Trump, so much for Obama "every effort" for a smooth transition.
Obama Shafts Israel (World News)
Schumer Wounded by Obama Betrayal
Apparently, Alan Dershowitz, has finally learned that Obama has never ever had "Israel's back." He has Iran's back, the Muslim Brotherhood's back, and his father's dream. Ya have to wonder if he has ever really had America's back?
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Dec 27 2016, 11:06 PM
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I never wondered. I could see from the start of his administration that he hated America. Like he said he wanted to fundamentally change the US. He didn't want a great US, he wanted the US to be a second rate country.
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Jim Miller
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Dec 27 2016, 11:22 PM
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That is why Trump's slogan was such a good one.
"Make America Great Again"
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Dec 27 2016, 11:50 PM
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I know that my view on Israel is contrary to most here but I don't see the Israelis as our true friends.
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Dec 27 2016, 11:52 PM
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Friendly or not, they are our ally.
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Dec 28 2016, 12:41 AM
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I see us as their ally but not them as our ally. We spend as much in dollars and diligence protecting our secrets from the Israelis as we do any other foreign country, in some cases more.
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Dec 28 2016, 01:03 AM
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They are the best friends by far in that location Thumper.
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Dec 28 2016, 02:24 AM
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I understand where you are coming from Thumper but a veto of the vote would not have cost us a thin dime.
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Dec 28 2016, 04:26 AM
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It's not just Israel where Obama does his ideological bizzaro work.
The Midnight Push to Empty Gitmo Nearly a third of the 693 detainees who have been released are believed to have returned to terrorism. (1/3 would be about 261) 12/27/16 wsj
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With less than a month remaining in office, President Obama is racing to free 19 more detainees from the terrorist prison at Guantanamo Bay. If history is any guide, this means that dangerous jihadists will be released to countries ill-equipped to handle them.
While many wondered whether Mr. Obama would fulfill his 2008 campaign promise to close Gitmo by breaking a bipartisan law barring him from bringing detainees to the U.S., the House Foreign Affairs Committee has remained focused on the president’s push to empty out the prison through reckless transfers to other countries.
We began our investigation two years ago, after the White House released six hardened terrorists to Uruguay. The administration had repeatedly promised Congress that it transfers detainees to foreign countries only after securing specific assurances about how those countries will reduce threats. Meanwhile, the administration wrote Uruguay’s president that none of the detainees had ever been involved in facilitating or conducting terrorism. Both Congress and the Uruguayan government were misled.
Uruguay proved to be a terrorist haven. Under Uruguayan law, its government was prohibited from monitoring, surveilling or imposing travel restrictions on the former detainees because of the “refugee” status it gave them. Not surprisingly, one of these individuals—a trained al Qaeda document forger—soon went missing, fleeing abroad.
The case in Uruguay was not isolated. The White House has repeatedly released detainees to countries it knew lacked the intent and capability to keep the detainees from returning to terrorism.
The results have been deadly. At a March hearing, the administration’s special envoys for Guantanamo Bay closure admitted for the first time that as many as 12 former Gitmo detainees have returned to the terrorist battlefield and killed Americans. The list of countries to which they had been released is classified.
In July the State Department named a former detainee a “specially designated global terrorist” after reports of his involvement in the June terror attack at Istanbul’s Atatürk Airport. He had been released to Russia.
According to the office of the director of National Intelligence, nearly one-third of the detainees freed from Gitmo—208 of the 693 detainees who were released under Presidents Bush or Obama—are confirmed or suspected of returning to terrorism.
Consider Tariq Al-Sawah, released to Bosnia in January. Al-Sawah literally wrote the book on bomb-making for al Qaeda. He reportedly was an associate of Osama bin Laden who had knowledge of the 9/11 attacks in the U.S.
After receiving a tip that the Obama administration was trying to pay Al-Sawah $100,000, I sent two staffers to Sarajevo in August and October to look into this report. They found that Bosnia’s limited security services are already being overwhelmed as scores of Bosnian fighters return from the war in Syria, and mosques with radical foreign supporters grow in influence. Making matters worse, the country also has the world’s highest youth unemployment rate.
This is the place where Al-Sawah the bomb-maker was dropped in the dead of January, with no coat, and in poor health. Even if he could manage to find legitimate employment, he does not have legal status in Bosnia to take it. The family member he was released to is also unemployed and struggling to make ends meet. Why wouldn’t he sell his terrorist skills?
As to the money, Bosnian officials say that the State Department discussed, in multiple meetings, making a direct payment to Al-Sawah of $100,000. U.S. embassy staff deny there was ever any agreement to pay Al-Sawah, and maintain that no funds have been sent to him directly or indirectly. U.S. staff notes from the meetings in question were conveniently shredded.
Administration stonewalling on Gitmo releases is hardly new. The White House refuses to provide the transfer agreements that would detail what—if any—promises and assistance are being provided to countries accepting detainees. The administration has routinely used such classified notices to shield information about detainee releases from public scrutiny. The American people are often the last to learn when these dangerous terrorists are released.
On Jan. 20, we have an opportunity to chart a better way. The prison at Guantanamo Bay should continue to serve as a secure, humane location for holding dangerous terrorists. And it is an appropriate location at which to detain and question new high-value individuals captured in our continuing fight against radical Islamist terrorism.
Mr. Obama’s midnight push to empty out Gitmo will not make America safer. His administration ought to use these final weeks to fix its Al-Sawah mess in Bosnia responsibly and quickly.
Through out his 8 years, he seems to do more for our enemies and less for our allies and for the U.S.. The list is long. Our enemy is quoted as needing to infiltrate into our government. Well, it appears that put one into the top position. The majority of Americans have been hood winked by a master in deception. But then, those are the one who would elect him into his third term... as he has prophesized. Keep them needy, keep them unaware, tell them you will free them of their bondage, and they will vote for you. That's how it's worked in progressive countries that have gone bad..... like Venezuela and Cuba. In a truly socialistic society/government, only the leaders are wealthy... the rest are equalized to what the wealthy leaders can afford. Obama and Michelle want to be those leaders. Golf anyone?
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Dec 28 2016, 06:57 AM
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- Banandangees
- Dec 28 2016, 04:26 AM
It's not just Israel where Obama does his ideological bizzaro work. The Midnight Push to Empty Gitmo Nearly a third of the 693 detainees who have been released are believed to have returned to terrorism. (1/3 would be about 261) 12/27/16 wsj
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With less than a month remaining in office, President Obama is racing to free 19 more detainees from the terrorist prison at Guantanamo Bay. If history is any guide, this means that dangerous jihadists will be released to countries ill-equipped to handle them.
While many wondered whether Mr. Obama would fulfill his 2008 campaign promise to close Gitmo by breaking a bipartisan law barring him from bringing detainees to the U.S., the House Foreign Affairs Committee has remained focused on the president’s push to empty out the prison through reckless transfers to other countries.
We began our investigation two years ago, after the White House released six hardened terrorists to Uruguay. The administration had repeatedly promised Congress that it transfers detainees to foreign countries only after securing specific assurances about how those countries will reduce threats. Meanwhile, the administration wrote Uruguay’s president that none of the detainees had ever been involved in facilitating or conducting terrorism. Both Congress and the Uruguayan government were misled.
Uruguay proved to be a terrorist haven. Under Uruguayan law, its government was prohibited from monitoring, surveilling or imposing travel restrictions on the former detainees because of the “refugee” status it gave them. Not surprisingly, one of these individuals—a trained al Qaeda document forger—soon went missing, fleeing abroad.
The case in Uruguay was not isolated. The White House has repeatedly released detainees to countries it knew lacked the intent and capability to keep the detainees from returning to terrorism.
The results have been deadly. At a March hearing, the administration’s special envoys for Guantanamo Bay closure admitted for the first time that as many as 12 former Gitmo detainees have returned to the terrorist battlefield and killed Americans. The list of countries to which they had been released is classified.
In July the State Department named a former detainee a “specially designated global terrorist” after reports of his involvement in the June terror attack at Istanbul’s Atatürk Airport. He had been released to Russia.
According to the office of the director of National Intelligence, nearly one-third of the detainees freed from Gitmo—208 of the 693 detainees who were released under Presidents Bush or Obama—are confirmed or suspected of returning to terrorism.
Consider Tariq Al-Sawah, released to Bosnia in January. Al-Sawah literally wrote the book on bomb-making for al Qaeda. He reportedly was an associate of Osama bin Laden who had knowledge of the 9/11 attacks in the U.S.
After receiving a tip that the Obama administration was trying to pay Al-Sawah $100,000, I sent two staffers to Sarajevo in August and October to look into this report. They found that Bosnia’s limited security services are already being overwhelmed as scores of Bosnian fighters return from the war in Syria, and mosques with radical foreign supporters grow in influence. Making matters worse, the country also has the world’s highest youth unemployment rate.
This is the place where Al-Sawah the bomb-maker was dropped in the dead of January, with no coat, and in poor health. Even if he could manage to find legitimate employment, he does not have legal status in Bosnia to take it. The family member he was released to is also unemployed and struggling to make ends meet. Why wouldn’t he sell his terrorist skills?
As to the money, Bosnian officials say that the State Department discussed, in multiple meetings, making a direct payment to Al-Sawah of $100,000. U.S. embassy staff deny there was ever any agreement to pay Al-Sawah, and maintain that no funds have been sent to him directly or indirectly. U.S. staff notes from the meetings in question were conveniently shredded.
Administration stonewalling on Gitmo releases is hardly new. The White House refuses to provide the transfer agreements that would detail what—if any—promises and assistance are being provided to countries accepting detainees. The administration has routinely used such classified notices to shield information about detainee releases from public scrutiny. The American people are often the last to learn when these dangerous terrorists are released.
On Jan. 20, we have an opportunity to chart a better way. The prison at Guantanamo Bay should continue to serve as a secure, humane location for holding dangerous terrorists. And it is an appropriate location at which to detain and question new high-value individuals captured in our continuing fight against radical Islamist terrorism.
Mr. Obama’s midnight push to empty out Gitmo will not make America safer. His administration ought to use these final weeks to fix its Al-Sawah mess in Bosnia responsibly and quickly. Through out his 8 years, he seems to do more for our enemies and less for our allies and for the U.S.. The list is long. Our enemy is quoted as needing to infiltrate into our government. Well, it appears that put one into the top position. The majority of Americans have been hood winked by a master in deception. But then, those are the one who would elect him into his third term... as he has prophesized. Keep them needy, keep them unaware, tell them you will free them of their bondage, and they will vote for you. That's how it's worked in progressive countries that have gone bad..... like Venezuela and Cuba. In a truly socialistic society/government, only the leaders are wealthy... the rest are equalized to what the wealthy leaders can afford. Obama and Michelle want to be those leaders. Golf anyone? I was thinking the same thing, I have long suspected his allegiance to radical Islam.
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