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Angry white men
Topic Started: Dec 23 2016, 05:11 AM (428 Views)
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Among many other causes enumerated as to why Hillary lost the election, her husband Bill recently indicated that it was the "angry white man." Now, that was a apolitical correctness, racial/gender hate speech comment if I ever heard one.

But, now that Bill brought up "angry white men," I couldn't help but look for it. As I do every morning, I peruse the TV news, changing channels every time a commercial comes on. I go from MSMBC (Morning Joe) to FOX, to Fox Business to CNN. I happen to turn to CNN just as Chris Cuomo was interviewing Kellyanne Conway. The question was referencing Trump's planned policy on "Muslim ban" vs "extreme vetting," regarding taking in fugitives.

I have to tell you. Cuomo began with intensity, seen in his facial expressions. There was no doubt that it was his bias showing through. It was a look of anger, many wrinkles in his brow and intensity in his eyes as he tried to get Kellyanne Conway to say what he wanted her to say. She remained cool though out. As she remained cool he became more intense to the point of anger, at least in appearance. Talk about angry white men, Cuomo was the epitome. Conway handled herself super well. And she is a woman, against a biased, experienced news anchor. I was proud of her.

Chris Cuomo is an angry white man..... I suppose because his father's party lost the election. He, like Barack Obama lives in his earthly father's image. They both need to pick better "fatherly images." What they are worshiping now is breaking down.
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You have a point Ban, the only angry white men I see are progressives. Progressives acting like fascists.

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The really angry white men.

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Banandangees
Dec 23 2016, 05:11 AM
Among many other causes enumerated as to why Hillary lost the election, her husband Bill recently indicated that it was the "angry white man." Now, that was a apolitical correctness, racial/gender hate speech comment if I ever heard one.

But, now that Bill brought up "angry white men," I couldn't help but look for it. As I do every morning, I peruse the TV news, changing channels every time a commercial comes on. I go from MSMBC (Morning Joe) to FOX, to Fox Business to CNN. I happen to turn to CNN just as Chris Cuomo was interviewing Kellyanne Conway. The question was referencing Trump's planned policy on "Muslim ban" vs "extreme vetting," regarding taking in fugitives.

I have to tell you. Cuomo began with intensity, seen in his facial expressions. There was no doubt that it was his bias showing through. It was a look of anger, many wrinkles in his brow and intensity in his eyes as he tried to get Kellyanne Conway to say what he wanted her to say. She remained cool though out. As she remained cool he became more intense to the point of anger, at least in appearance. Talk about angry white men, Cuomo was the epitome. Conway handled herself super well. And she is a woman, against a biased, experienced news anchor. I was proud of her.

Chris Cuomo is an angry white man..... I suppose because his father's party lost the election. He, like Barack Obama lives in his earthly father's image. They both need to pick better "fatherly images." What they are worshiping now is breaking down.
Banandangees,

A few questions.

They may just be typos but I thought I'd ask.

Did you mean "apolitical correctness" or political correctness?

Who is talking about "taking in fugitives"?

I didn't see the Cuomo - Conway interview. Did Mr. Cuomo verbally express "anger" or were you reading "anger" into his facial expressions?
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Not your business, runner.
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Ima,

"Apolitical." Meaning the opposite of political correctness. That's what Bill Clinton was doing. A statement that wasn't very politically correct.... it was offending and "hurtful" to whites in general and males in particular. A very negative statement with no evidence of truth. I mean, how does Bill Clinton know that those who, in the past usually voted Democrat, changed to the GOP candidate, were angry. Did he see their faces? Does he have evidence of those white men being angry. Of course, as Michael Moore indicated... that "they lost everything that they had," that could be enough to make them angry, but that could make blacks, Hispanics, women, Democrats, liberals, conservatives.... "all of the blows... very angry... but where's the evidence that it was only white men.... and not black men; or white/black women?

Who talked about taking in fugitives??? Now that was a typo. I meant "refugees." In some cases, like the man who drove the bus in Germany and shot and killed in Italy, there are a fair number passing into other countries as "fugitives" passing as refugees.


Addendum: I forgot Cuomo. The white angry man. If you allow and consider Bill Clinton's statement to be true, then you have to consider mine to be true.... if consistency means anything. It was the same statement. But, that being said, there is no doubt that Chris Cuomo was intense... and possibly to the point of anger... if you saw his face throughout the whole interview. He was on the attack from the start.... very little show of respect from beginning to just at the end when he wished her "Happy Holidays," and even that wasn't done with a look of civility (IMO).

Anger?? For me, I think I've been around this old world, in many different situations, enough to see intensity and anger in facial or bodily expressions. I've had my share of confrontations, some civil, enough not civil. Myself, I can't see my anger, but I can feel it; and again, I've been in situations where I've realized, that whomever I happened to have a confrontation with, somehow say my anger. My instincts have not always been right. But, they've not all been wrong either. I've had my share of those kinds of experiences. I mean, animals are particularly adept at recognizing anger. I'm an animal. :smile:
Edited by Banandangees, Dec 23 2016, 08:50 PM.
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Dec 23 2016, 08:37 PM
Ima,

"Apolitical." Meaning the opposite of political correctness.
While I don't pretend to be the arbiter for the meaning of terms and phrases, in my mind the opposite of "political correctness" would be political incorrectness not "apolitical correctness."

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That's what Bill Clinton was doing. A statement that wasn't very politically correct.... it was offending and "hurtful" to whites in general and males in particular. A very negative statement with no evidence of truth.


Here again, I don't agree. There is nothing politically either correct or incorrect about Mr. Clinton's statement. It is his opinion. I don't agree with it but he, IMO, is welcome to it.

Does it besmirch "angry white men" to say they elected Mr. Trump? I do recall seeing what appeared to be many "angry white men" attending Mr. Trump's rallies during the period leading up to the election. There likely were angry non-whites and angry women as well but I don't agree that there was no evidence supporting his statement.

Re. Mr. Cuomo, having not seen the interview, I'll have to bend to your interpretation of his demeanor. Still, I find it interesting that he doesn't appear to have shown that anger in any of his words.

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It doesn't matter what you agree or disagree with, runner. You forfeited your right to be meaningful when you ran out on your country and refused to defend it. Cowardice does not get rewarded with credibility. So, butt out and mind your own business.
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Dec 24 2016, 02:26 AM
Banandangees
Dec 23 2016, 08:37 PM
Ima,

"Apolitical." Meaning the opposite of political correctness.
While I don't pretend to be the arbiter for the meaning of terms and phrases, in my mind the opposite of "political correctness" would be political incorrectness not "apolitical correctness."

But I see that you do get my meaning. That's the important thing here. Bill Clinton's statement was not, IMO, politically correct... by standards that I often see/hear liberals use of what is offensive and what is not.

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That's what Bill Clinton was doing. A statement that wasn't very politically correct.... it was offending and "hurtful" to whites in general and males in particular. A very negative statement with no evidence of truth.


Here again, I don't agree. There is nothing politically either correct or incorrect about Mr. Clinton's statement. It is his opinion. I don't agree with it but he, IMO, is welcome to it.

It's not his "opinion" that I object to, it's his public statement, that some how I and all the millions of white folks (and black folks) who voted for Trump are "angry white men." It was a negative connotation attributed to all who voted against Hillary... who called them "a basket of deplorables." But again, to me, Bill's statement was "offensive." I'm using the liberal standards of "offensive" as is often used by liberals, such as is often used in our liberal universities as what students may say, do or dress as, as being insensitive and offensive to others .... such as one NE university which banned the used of the word "guys" when describing females in any way. For example a coach of the girls basketball team may not be referred to by the coach (man or woman), as guys... "you guys have got to put more consistency in your effort if you want to be winners.... not that losers are a bad thing." I'm just trying to be consistent with the left in what someone might find offensive, realizing that on the left there is often that double standard thingy. What Bill Clinton said publically, without evidence, was very offensive to me. I want it to stop.

Does it besmirch "angry white men" to say they elected Mr. Trump? I do recall seeing what appeared to be many "angry white men" attending Mr. Trump's rallies during the period leading up to the election. There likely were angry non-whites and angry women as well but I don't agree that there was no evidence supporting his statement.

But he didn't offer any. He offered no evidence, and as such, many would find his comment unfounded and offensive.

Re. Mr. Cuomo, having not seen the interview, I'll have to bend to your interpretation of his demeanor. Still, I find it interesting that he doesn't appear to have shown that anger in any of his words.

Are you saying that you didn't see the interview but you heard it? Words? Perhaps you need to be in more varied confrontations of varied intensities. Sometimes there are no words. Sometimes it behooves one to recognize the unspoken word.


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