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| The US has been Overwhelmingly Hot this Year; (BTW, Canada even more so...) | |
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| Neutral | Dec 23 2016, 09:01 AM Post #61 |
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A predictable ending. |
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| donsm60 | Dec 23 2016, 09:26 AM Post #62 |
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Brewster, A $5.27 electric bill is mind boggling low, but different worlds understand that. Our current bill being all electric is low now with the AC not running 24/7 because of the nice weather and is still low $200’s with 1900 s/f under air (2400 including the garage but on a separate thermostat controlled damper not needed with the cool temps) and all the upgrades that can be done to a home built in 75’. With the exception of foam filling the concrete block cells everything that can be has been done, A/C, windows, R60 attic insulation, all new appliances and LED lights besides florescent shop lights in the garage. We do have a pool though that is around $50 of the bill running 5 hours a day now compared to 10 hours during the hot months. Another thing that jacks our bill up is the washer and dryer constantly running with a wife and 3 daughters and our electric rate isn’t the cheapest but average nation wide at around 12 cents a kWh with all of the charges. Sonatas’ are nice cars and looked at the plug-in specs and like it, similar to the Fusion in a lot of ways including cost but a 10 KW battery and 27 miles of EV range. When I bought our Fusion 6 months ago it was factory discounted $9000 with 3 year lease terms nobody could touch at the time and that is what made me take the plunge and love the car! Since day one it is still averaging 58-59 mpg with my daughter having it at school for 2 weeks without the ability to charge it while I worked on her car. My wife’s Pathfinder lease ends 8/18 and she will drive the Fusion for a year while I hunt for the next best EV deal. I’m still waiting on my electrician to get power to where I want the level 2 charging station that will require a fair amount of work and decided to install a 100 amp sub panel because I can see both of us driving an EV in the near future, not to mention our younger kids will both be driving in less than 5 years. |
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| donsm60 | Dec 23 2016, 09:57 AM Post #63 |
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Pat, we installed 100’s of new can lights (recessed) with LED trims this year on remodels and a of couple additions, I know the last large remodel had 48 alone and have been installing them with LED trims for the last 6 years seeing all of the problems especially noise and dimmers switch conflicts that seem to be working themselves out with the products advancing. A new problem we’re seeing here with time on cans with LED trim on dimmer switches is the neutral wire can housing sheathing becoming brittle and falling apart, we have 8 in our kitchen I installed (my electrician) 7 years ago and every one of them is doing it. I’m not an electrician much less an electrical engineer, just a dumb GC, and from what I’m being told it is caused by the ‘harmonics’ of LED bulbs. Over my head… |
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| Brewster | Dec 23 2016, 12:48 PM Post #64 |
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Yes, the $5.27 is extremely low - much lower than I had been expecting. But do keep in mind that is the actual power consumption - my bill allows me to subtract the inevitable "Administration" etc fees. In fact, my monthly bill is around $55! There is something wrong when the fixed fees are 10 times the consumption costs! Do keep in mind that my apartment is less than half the size of your place, we don't have a pool, there's only the two of us, and we certainly don't need A/C in Calgary in November! My bill for consumption in August, with A/C running every day & not all the upgrades in place, was about $55. It also helps that our Electricity cost is just over 6 1/2 cents per Kwh (I pay an extra cent for Wind power - that differential is coming down every year - it used to be 3 1/2 cents! I've heard rumours that it will disappear entirely in another year...) |
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| Jim Miller | Dec 23 2016, 05:16 PM Post #65 |
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| Banandangees | Dec 23 2016, 08:16 PM Post #66 |
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Geez Jim! Get one of those adjustable beds. Your snoring woke me up from a deep one. |
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| icy-woman | Dec 23 2016, 08:52 PM Post #67 |
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Transition to cleaner energy and use less of it. There's your solution. A Simpler Way: Crisis as Opportunity- A Simpler Way: Crisis as Opportunity is a free feature-length documentary that follows a community in Australia who came together to explore and demonstrate a simpler way to live in response to global crises. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUwLAvfBCzw Throughout the year the group build tiny houses, plant veggie gardens, practice simple living, and discover the challenges of living in community. This film is the product of hours and hours of footage that I shot during that year-long experiment in simple living. |
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| Banandangees | Dec 23 2016, 09:01 PM Post #68 |
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"A simpler way." Sounds like communal living... "collective homesteading." Kumbaya! They're doing that in parts of Africa. We tried it somewhat in the 50s and 60s. |
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| Neutral | Dec 23 2016, 09:14 PM Post #69 |
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He is behind times a few decades. |
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| Berton | Dec 23 2016, 10:48 PM Post #70 |
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What is sad is that kind of living is what the alarmist want for all of us. With the government in control making us do it. |
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