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| icy-woman | Dec 22 2016, 12:39 AM Post #1 |
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Welcome to Trump's forced relocation program- Taken to the US as children, many of the Mexican deportees who arrive back in Tijuana think of themselves as Americans. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLDYu7rqTLk Banned from the country where they have spent most of their lives, and rejected by their country of birth, the deported are a community that lives on the edge. Just a few paces from the US-Mexico border, the world they enter is entirely alien to the world they left. With over 200 new arrivals daily, unable to get a job in a town plagued by drugs, murder and organized crime, many of the deported turn to violence and narcotics, lengthening their downward spiral into depths they never thought possible. In Focus heads to Tijuana for a better look at the border, sees the help and dangers that affect the deported community, and asks the question: How do they survive as strangers in their own land? |
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| Pat | Dec 22 2016, 02:25 AM Post #2 |
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Under the circumstances, why have they not applied to immigrate from their home country to America? Those that are not criminals. This is the legal process available to all peoples of the Earth. |
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| icy-woman | Dec 22 2016, 05:07 AM Post #3 |
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I don't know, but just because I don't know doesn't mean there isn't a valid reason. You say "This is the legal process available to all peoples of the Earth" but can you truly know that? I do know this. There are people, good people who have done nothing wrong who don't have the options you seem to think they do. This is true in many if not all areas in life and I see no reason it wouldn't be the same here. If we were to say "lets not let the criminals or terrorists in" I might 100% agree if it weren't for the question of who are we supposed to trust to be honest with us about just who are the criminals and terrorists. Trump's siege stance of "we are gonna ban you because your Mexican, Muslim and you could be a threat" is a slippery slope. I'm quite sure Hitler never started out saying "hey you know what?, lets just round up and kill off all the Jews" You might have the right color skin, be of the right class to be able to position yourself way down the line on the kind of person they will come after, but don't fool yourself, when they rid the world of everyone else they will come for you and all those others won't be around to stop them. Granted that's an extreme example but true none the less. |
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| Pat | Dec 22 2016, 05:15 AM Post #4 |
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I think if you consider what I said and leave out the anti Trump rhetoric, it will be easier to understand. It doesn't make any difference what your status of life as an illegal immigrant to America is, it's still miles ahead of most people in the world. yet those people are capable of visiting a US embassy and filing to immigrate back here. If they were children when they came to America, then they have received education and language skills. I think painting them as victims is silly. Once their application is reviewed, they will go in line for consideration. This is not complicated. |
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| icy-woman | Dec 22 2016, 01:57 PM Post #5 |
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Corporate Propaganda Blinds Us To The Suffering Of Others- Most people understand that average Americans have gotten less than they deserve. Most people don’t understand that average African-Americans have also gotten less than they deserve. "Many have argued that Donald Trump won the presidency because the political establishment ignored the plight of white working class Americans. Everyone from the far right to far left, including Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and Joe Biden has suggested that the Clinton campaign didn’t pay enough attention to this group’s legitimate economic grievances. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdsgbQ9l8sc A few astute analysts, however, have noted that the sympathetic focus on white America’s problems stands in stark contrast with conservatives’ lack of empathy for communities of color. Indeed, when African Americans protest against profound racial inequality—unequal conditions that are directly traceable to discriminatory governmental policies—they are often condemned by the right as “whiners“ who should simply try harder to remedy their own situations. Such different portraits of white and non-white Americans’ grievances have their origins in what social psychologists call “ultimate attribution error.” This error means that when whites struggle, their troubles are generally attributed to situational forces (e.g., outsourcing); but when non-whites struggle, their plight is more often attributed to dispositional traits (i.e., poor work ethic). Consequently, whites are considered “more deserving” than blacks. To quantify this double standard in deservingness we embedded an experiment in a new HuffPost/YouGov survey. We asked half of our respondents if they agreed or disagreed with the following statement: “Over the past few years, blacks have gotten less than they deserve.” The other half of the sample was provided with the exact same statement, except we changed “blacks” to “average Americans”—a group that psychology research shows is implicitly synonymous with being white. The results show a very strong public divide in the perceived deservingness of average Americans and African Americans:” |
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