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| It's official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California; Received 4.3 million more votes than Trump in California | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 18 2016, 08:47 AM (556 Views) | |
| Pat | Dec 18 2016, 08:47 AM Post #1 |
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The wisdom of our founding fathers prevails. It would be absurd to allow one state to determine the outcome of an election that covers 50 states and the territories. In nation where the democrats are continually whining about fairness, I find their arguments hilarious and disingenuous to claim the popular vote should prevail over the electoral college. There would cease to be a reason why the other 49 states and territories should participate in congress. We might as well be a hodge podge of 50 separate nation states. Better yet, California should be allowed to secede, the demographics is so out of touch with the rest of the nation in priorities and philosophy, that it is more foreign than many foreign nation's we have relationships with. It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California Democrats who are having trouble getting out of the first stage of grief — denial — aren't being helped by the fact that, now that all the votes are counted, Hillary Clinton's lead in the popular vote has topped 2.8 million, giving her a 48% share of the vote compared with Trumps 46%. To those unschooled in how the United States selects presidents, this seems totally unfair. But look more closely at the numbers and you see that Clinton's advantage all but disappears. As we noted in this space earlier, while Clinton's overall margin looks large and impressive, it is due to Clinton's huge margin of victory in one state — California — where she got a whopping 4.3 million more votes than Trump. California is the only state, in fact, where Clinton's margin of victory was bigger than President Obama's in 2012 — 61.5% vs. Obama's 60%. But California is the exception that proves the true genius of the Electoral College — which was designed to prevent regional candidates from dominating national elections. In recent years, California has been turning into what amounts to a one-party state. Between 2008 and 2016, the number of Californian's who registered as Democrats climbed by 1.1 million, while the number of registered Republicans dropped by almost 400,000. What's more, many Republicans in the state had nobody to vote for in November. There were two Democrats — and zero Republicans — running to replace Sen. Barbara Boxer. There were no Republicans on the ballot for House seats in nine of California's congressional districts. At the state level, six districts had no Republicans running for the state senate, and 16 districts had no Republicans running for state assembly seats. Plus, since Republicans knew Clinton was going to win the state — and its entire 55 electoral votes — casting a ballot for Trump was virtually meaningless, since no matter what her margin of victory, Clinton was getting all 55 votes. Is it any wonder then, that Trump got 11% fewer California votes than John McCain did in 2008? (Clinton got 6% more votes than Obama did eight years ago, but the number of registered Democrats in the state climbed by 13% over those years.) If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes. And if California voted like every other Democratic state — where Clinton averaged 53.5% wins — Clinton and Trump end up in a virtual popular vote tie. (This was not the case in 2012. Obama beat Romney by 2 million votes that year, not counting California.) Meanwhile, if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election. *** Number of states won: Trump: 30 Clinton: 20 _________________ Trump: +10 Number of electoral votes won: Trump: 306 Clinton: 232 _________________ Trump: + 68 Ave. margin of victory in winning states: Trump: 56% Clinton: 53.5% _________________ Trump: + 2.5 points Popular vote total: Trump: 62,958,211 Clinton: 65,818,318 _________________ Clinton: + 2.8 million Popular vote total outside California: Trump: 58,474,401 Clinton: 57,064,530 _________________ Trump: + 1.4 million |
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| Neutral | Dec 18 2016, 08:50 AM Post #2 |
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Now what percentage of those CA votes were illegal? |
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| Corky52 | Dec 18 2016, 08:56 AM Post #3 |
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Lesson for Californians, you don't count as much as other citizens! We pay the bills, but that doesn't count!
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| Corky52 | Dec 18 2016, 09:04 AM Post #4 |
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How about the taxes that go outside the state get reduced to what our value as citizens is, like about 35%? I'm sure you all feel like paying for what we get, less vote value and less service.
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| Thumper | Dec 18 2016, 09:33 AM Post #5 |
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Of course the fruits and nuts would go for the big fruit and nut, Hillary. |
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| Corky52 | Dec 18 2016, 09:35 AM Post #6 |
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Don't like the people, but sure love our money and products. Cascadia is looking better and better.
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| Jim Miller | Dec 18 2016, 09:36 AM Post #7 |
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Yup, Thumper. Edited by Jim Miller, Dec 18 2016, 09:36 AM.
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| Neutral | Dec 18 2016, 09:49 AM Post #8 |
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Corky, why doesn't CA secede instead of just talking about it? That or all you libs move to Canada and get the hell out of our country. |
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| Corky52 | Dec 18 2016, 09:54 AM Post #9 |
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Why should I move, the people of California seem to be fine for the most part. If we really started to secede, I wonder what the outcry from the rest of you bloodsucking welfaries would sound like?
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| Jim Miller | Dec 18 2016, 10:02 AM Post #10 |
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Try it and lets find out. |
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