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| Fulltimer | Aug 13 2016, 10:03 PM Post #1 |
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I love airshows. I have had the opportunity to see both the new F35 and the SU 35 in flight. At the Phoenix show last spring they called the F35 the world's best fighter, but I am not so sure after seeing the SU 35 in Paris. I think that was the slightly earlier version of it. Certainly based on manoeuvrability, the Russian plane wins hands down. Apparently the F 35 is at the large abbotsford air show in Canada this weekend, so I do not know if they will push it more that they did in Phoenix where it was basically just a flyover. Not making that one this year, I was at the Abbotsford show several years ago just after the cold war thaw when the Russians took an American pilot up in a Mig 29 and the Americans took a Russian pilot up in an F 18. it was an poignant moment that I don't think you would see nowadays. I also saw the venerable Avro Vulcan in flight at that particular show and Russians also had the giant Antonov transport which was really impressive by its size. Phoenix on the other hand seems to be pretty much exclusively US hardware. know Canada is hedging on buying F35s, so maybe they will show it off more. Anyway take a look at this incredible footage of the Russian plane. link Edited by Fulltimer, Aug 13 2016, 10:04 PM.
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| Thumper | Aug 13 2016, 10:55 PM Post #2 |
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When you look at the effectiveness of a fighter jet you look at the complete weapon system, not just maneuverability. Maneuvers don't kill, " weapon systens" kill. |
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| Fulltimer | Aug 13 2016, 10:58 PM Post #3 |
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Sure, but it sure is impressive . I have no idea what it's other capabilities are. |
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| Thumper | Aug 13 2016, 11:00 PM Post #4 |
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There you go. |
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| Fulltimer | Aug 13 2016, 11:13 PM Post #5 |
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Here is one analysis http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-russian-bear-roars-the-sky-beware-the-deadly-su-35-11799 Edited by Fulltimer, Aug 13 2016, 11:17 PM.
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| Fulltimer | Aug 13 2016, 11:19 PM Post #6 |
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Posted wrong link. Corrected |
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| Berton | Aug 14 2016, 04:17 AM Post #7 |
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Hi Paul!! When did you get back? |
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| Neutral | Aug 14 2016, 04:23 AM Post #8 |
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He's baiting with his air show BS. The wagon master doesn't know a damn thing about air shows. I don't think the F35 is even doing demos yet. |
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| Neutral | Aug 14 2016, 06:01 AM Post #9 |
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Telcoman Apr 4 2016, 10:24 AM Post #3 Member Avatar Administrator Posts: 862 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 18, 2015 Yes I like airshows. Only problem with this one is that is it hardly international. One canadian miltary aircraft was about all the foreign representation I saw. That is why I prefer the Abbotsford show in BC where you can see flights by Russian, British and other miliary jets as well. I suppose that is th eproblem with an airshow on a military base, they are only likely to allow the uS & Canadian military in there. It was interesting to see the new F35 and the Thunderbirds were good except for the 45 minute tedious lead up to it. Too much flag waving and introdution of everyone down the janitor who cleans the hanger. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Politics_R_Us/topic/8376217/1/ |
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| Fulltimer | Aug 14 2016, 06:23 AM Post #10 |
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I see this nutball is on this forum as well. |
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