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What is really wrong with america?; Please join in
Topic Started: Jun 25 2016, 09:46 PM (935 Views)
colo_crawdad
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Berton
Jun 27 2016, 09:59 AM
No, your arrogance is not allowing you to understand that you are crawdading again.

Yet another attempted insult because Berton has nothing else. I accept the surrender.
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tomdrobin
Jun 27 2016, 11:55 AM
The big problem we have today is the capture of the political process by monied interests. And, so those interests can pretty much call the shots. Vilifying government and politicians isn't going to help. Term limits? Outsiders? Just some knew puppets. Only way to fix it is to get the big money out of politics, by campaign finance reform.
Then please tell how you can support Hillary who is and will be the status quo.
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tomdrobin
Jun 27 2016, 11:55 AM
The big problem we have today is the capture of the political process by monied interests. And, so those interests can pretty much call the shots. Vilifying government and politicians isn't going to help. Term limits? Outsiders? Just some knew puppets. Only way to fix it is to get the big money out of politics, by campaign finance reform.

You are supporting what you call the moneyed interests when you support the Dems. Hillary is bought and paid for by the moneyed interests.

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Jun 27 2016, 06:25 PM
tomdrobin
Jun 27 2016, 11:55 AM
The big problem we have today is the capture of the political process by monied interests. And, so those interests can pretty much call the shots. Vilifying government and politicians isn't going to help. Term limits? Outsiders? Just some knew puppets. Only way to fix it is to get the big money out of politics, by campaign finance reform.
Then please tell how you can support Hillary who is and will be the status quo.
I was routing for Bernie. Not crazy about Hillary, but Trump who the hell knows what he stands for.
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tomdrobin
Jun 27 2016, 11:55 AM
The big problem we have today is the capture of the political process by monied interests. And, so those interests can pretty much call the shots. Vilifying government and politicians isn't going to help. Term limits? Outsiders? Just some knew puppets. Only way to fix it is to get the big money out of politics, by campaign finance reform.
That is why the new supreme court justices will be so important. We need to get rid of citizens united. Failing that we need a whole new congress. Need not be new parties, just new faces. Preferably young.
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The problem with America is that the values of the hard Right have unleashed the golem of corporate profit uber alles.




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Do you libs ever think, you say you don't like the status quo but you support Hillary. Trump is totally anti status quo and you fear him. You make zero sense.
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Berton
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Not only that but the libs are bought and owned by the very entities they rail against day after day.

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Jun 29 2016, 05:29 PM
Do you libs ever think, you say you don't like the status quo but you support Hillary. Trump is totally anti status quo and you fear him. You make zero sense.
Trump is not "anti status quo". Trump is nuts.
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At this point in our political history, I'm ready to cope with "nuts" rather than try to enduring increased corruption via Hillary and to decrease administrative impotency.
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