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Democrats Block Sensible Gun Proposals In Senate
Topic Started: Jun 21 2016, 10:25 AM (402 Views)
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Democrats Block Sensible Gun Proposals In Senate



This afternoon, the Senate voted on four proposals for increased gun control, two submitted by Republicans and two by Democrats. All four went down to defeat, although both Republican bills had majority support.

Senator Chuck Grassley proposed legislation that would have increased funding for the NICS background check system, and would have pressed states to send more records to the FBI on felons and others barred from buying guns. It also revamped language that prohibits some people with mental health problems from buying guns. Grassley’s bill had majority support, 53-47, but wasn’t passed because the Democrats filibustered it.

Senator John Cornyn offered legislation to keep firearms out of the hands of suspected terrorists. His bill would let the government block a sale to a known or suspected terrorist, and prosecutors would then have three days to convince a judge that the would-be buyer was likely a terrorist. This seems like a sensible compromise, and it too had majority support, 53-47, but again the Democrats filibustered and blocked the bill from taking effect.

The Democrats likewise offered two proposals, both of which enjoyed less support. Dianne Feinstein proposed legislation that would bar gun sales to people on any federal terrorism watch list–a list that has included Ted Kennedy, Nelson Mandela, and many random, innocent citizens–without providing any way for people to get themselves taken off the list. I think it is safe to say that this proposal was sheer political grandstanding. It went down to a 47-53 defeat. It is shameful that so many Democrats voted for it.

Chris Murphy’s bill would have required the current, inadequate list of people who can’t buy guns to be applied to even more sales, including sales between friends or relatives. That, too, was defeated 47-53.

Islamic terrorists don’t rely on legal access to firearms. Muslim terrorists have used box cutters, shoe bombs, pressure cookers, knives and other weapons to wreak havoc. The current proposals are largely for show, and have little to do with actually stopping terrorist attacks. Still, the Republicans offered a couple of sound, middle of the road bills that had majority support and would have provided increased gun control, if that were really the objective. But the Democrats don’t want anything to pass, they just want to complain and hope for political gain. So today, they filibustered the only constructive proposals that came to the Senate floor. Shame on them.

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This is what actually happened in the Senate today, contrary to what Brewster thinks happened.


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Jun 21 2016, 10:25 AM
Democrats Block Sensible Gun Proposals In Senate



This afternoon, the Senate voted on four proposals for increased gun control, two submitted by Republicans and two by Democrats. All four went down to defeat, although both Republican bills had majority support.

Senator Chuck Grassley proposed legislation that would have increased funding for the NICS background check system, and would have pressed states to send more records to the FBI on felons and others barred from buying guns. It also revamped language that prohibits some people with mental health problems from buying guns. Grassley’s bill had majority support, 53-47, but wasn’t passed because the Democrats filibustered it.

Senator John Cornyn offered legislation to keep firearms out of the hands of suspected terrorists. His bill would let the government block a sale to a known or suspected terrorist, and prosecutors would then have three days to convince a judge that the would-be buyer was likely a terrorist. This seems like a sensible compromise, and it too had majority support, 53-47, but again the Democrats filibustered and blocked the bill from taking effect.

The Democrats likewise offered two proposals, both of which enjoyed less support. Dianne Feinstein proposed legislation that would bar gun sales to people on any federal terrorism watch list–a list that has included Ted Kennedy, Nelson Mandela, and many random, innocent citizens–without providing any way for people to get themselves taken off the list. I think it is safe to say that this proposal was sheer political grandstanding. It went down to a 47-53 defeat. It is shameful that so many Democrats voted for it.

Chris Murphy’s bill would have required the current, inadequate list of people who can’t buy guns to be applied to even more sales, including sales between friends or relatives. That, too, was defeated 47-53.

Islamic terrorists don’t rely on legal access to firearms. Muslim terrorists have used box cutters, shoe bombs, pressure cookers, knives and other weapons to wreak havoc. The current proposals are largely for show, and have little to do with actually stopping terrorist attacks. Still, the Republicans offered a couple of sound, middle of the road bills that had majority support and would have provided increased gun control, if that were really the objective. But the Democrats don’t want anything to pass, they just want to complain and hope for political gain. So today, they filibustered the only constructive proposals that came to the Senate floor. Shame on them.

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This is what actually happened in the Senate today, contrary to what Brewster thinks happened.


Four stupid inadequate bills with the only recommending feature being which was the least worst.
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Berton proved once again he is truly th most gullible member on this board - sorry Neut, I know you try hard but...

Berton, did you even LOOK at Grassley's bill?

This part alone would guarantee no rational person should support it - it would completely eliminate any "gun free" zone:

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The bill includes provisions making it easier to purchase and transport firearms across state lines.

The bill would allow for the interstate sale of firearms, and for the interstate transportation of firearms

Why don't you make life easier for everyone concerned and hand everyone claiming to be a terrorist all the weapons he thinks he needs as he crosses each state line?

That's what the bill would do anyway, especially since there is no requirement for background checks at gun shows.

Find a show, buy a gun, cross into a "gun free" zone, and shoot the place up - easy peasy.

But Berton can't think even that far ahead - our Gullibility Champ just accepts whatever the proven liars at Powerline tell him.
Edited by Brewster, Jun 22 2016, 09:14 AM.
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Why don't you tell the truth for once and put us on ignore?
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Sorry, double post.
Edited by colo_crawdad, Jun 22 2016, 09:26 AM.
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Never have seen anyone stutter when they type. Only you Colo.
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Jun 22 2016, 09:14 AM
Berton proved once again he is truly th most gullible member on this board - sorry Neut, I know you try hard but...

Berton, did you even LOOK at Grassley's bill?

This part alone would guarantee no rational person should support it - it would completely eliminate any "gun free" zone:

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The bill includes provisions making it easier to purchase and transport firearms across state lines.

The bill would allow for the interstate sale of firearms, and for the interstate transportation of firearms

Why don't you make life easier for everyone concerned and hand everyone claiming to be a terrorist all the weapons he thinks he needs as he crosses each state line?

That's what the bill would do anyway, especially since there is no requirement for background checks at gun shows.

Find a show, buy a gun, cross into a "gun free" zone, and shoot the place up - easy peasy.

But Berton can't think even that far ahead - our Gullibility Champ just accepts whatever the proven liars at Powerline tell him.
But . . ., but . . ., but . . ., but . . ., but . . ., but . . ., Powerline says . ..
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:tongue: Why are you posting the same thing twice Colo.
Is that a new form of crawdaddying?
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Tell us Brewster, you seem to think you know everything, what would the Dem bills accomplish if they had been passed?

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Colo, you must understand Neut's anger - he's lost his Gullibility Champ ring - that's Gotta hurt...
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