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| Tweet Topic Started: May 29 2016, 05:47 PM (603 Views) | |
| Stoned | May 29 2016, 10:40 PM Post #11 |
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Sixth, he has great instincts. He predicted the rise of Osama bin Laden. He predicted a terror attack on a major US city. He opposed the war in Iraq although every other candidate but Bernie Sanders was in favor of the war. He opposed it because it would destabilize the middle east. He got out of the gaming industry before it crashed. Great instincts. John Locher/AP On Wednesday afternoon, Donald Trump, the GOP presidential front-runner, appeared on the internet-based talk show of Alex Jones, a so-called 9/11 truther who promulgates a wide variety of wild conspiracy theories. Jones heaped praise on Trump for being a modern-day George Washington who could save this nation before it falls into utter ruin in the next few years, and he begged Trump to vow that he will not pull out of the race (even under pressure from dark globalist forces). Trump, for his part, also heaped praise on Trump. In touting his own national security credentials, Trump pointed to a book he published in 2000 called The America We Deserve. He noted that in this work, he brilliantly foresaw the threat posed by Osama bin Laden: I said in that book that we better be careful with this guy named Osama bin Laden. I mean I really study this stuff. I really find it very interesting, even though I am a businessman…I said we better be careful with Osama bin Laden. There's a guy named Osama bin Laden. Nobody really knew who he was. But he was nasty. He was saying really nasty things about our country and what he wants to do to it. And I wrote in the book [in] 2000—two [sic] years before the World Trade Center came down—I talked to you about Osama bin Laden, you better take him out. I said he's going to crawl under a rock. You better take him out. And now people are seeing that, they’re saying, "You know, Trump predicted Osama bin Laden." Which actually is true. Really? Trump, in a 2000 book, fingered bin Laden as a primary threat who had to be neutralized, and he did this before others saw the Al Qaeda leader as a danger? ........................."Okay, by now you know where this is heading. In the Kindle version of this book, there is no index. But according to the search function, there is only one—yes, just one—brief reference to Osama bin Laden or Al Qaeda in the entire book. Here it is: Instead of one looming crisis hanging over us, we face a bewildering series of smaller crises, flash points, standoffs, and hot spots. We're not playing the chess game to end all chess games anymore. We're playing tournament chess—one master against many rivals. One day we're all assured that Iraq is under control, the UN inspectors have done their work, everything's fine, not to worry. The next day the bombing begins. One day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan. He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it's on to a new enemy and new crisis." That's it. Nothing prescient. Nothing that was not known publicly at the time......................................" http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/donald-trump-alex-jones-osama-bin-laden http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/trumps-bin-laden-prediction/ (there are doens of others) |
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| Stoned | May 29 2016, 10:41 PM Post #12 |
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Sixth, he has great instincts. He predicted the rise of Osama bin Laden. He predicted a terror attack on a major US city. He opposed the war in Iraq although every other candidate but Bernie Sanders was in favor of the war. He opposed it because it would destabilize the middle east. He got out of the gaming industry before it crashed. Great instincts. double post Edited by Stoned, May 29 2016, 10:48 PM.
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| Stoned | May 29 2016, 10:46 PM Post #13 |
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Sixth, he has great instincts. He predicted the rise of Osama bin Laden. He predicted a terror attack on a major US city. He opposed the war in Iraq although every other candidate but Bernie Sanders was in favor of the war. He opposed it because it would destabilize the middle east. He got out of the gaming industry before it crashed. Great instincts. ..........."There is no evidence that we could find, however, that he spoke against the war before it started, although we did find he expressed early concerns about the cost and direction of the war a few months after it started..........................." http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/ And many others |
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| Neutral | May 29 2016, 10:46 PM Post #14 |
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The fear is growing. |
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| Stoned | May 29 2016, 10:50 PM Post #15 |
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Thd schit is rising |
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| Neutral | May 29 2016, 10:52 PM Post #16 |
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You would know about schit for sure. |
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| Stoned | May 29 2016, 11:09 PM Post #17 |
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I know you don't I? |
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| her-she | May 29 2016, 11:11 PM Post #18 |
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People who want real hope and change have a chance with Trump. He is talking to those who feel lost in the system now. Whether he will fulfill his promises remains to be seen but with him we have a chance. I hope your right, but my gut tells me he is just out for himself. Even if he is on the up and up, I just don't agree with alot of what he says he wants to do. First of all, he says he will end the healthcare in place. It's better than I ever remember it being. In my opinion the best thing Obama did as pres. If he was talking about ending Obama's drone strikes, repealing the patriot act and NDAA, I'd still be skeptical but I would get behind him on that. I don't care about a wall on the border, seems a big waste of money to build and maintain, I don't see any possible way of making the Mexicans pay for it without violating the rights of those Mexicans here legally. The way he talks, I have to think he doesn't care about freedom and rights for everyone, but only a select group of people. I believe he will throw the majority of his supporters under the bus when they outlive their usefulness. He has admitted to knowing the terrorist threat is mostly made up. I believe that as well. It's to justify unconstitutional wars and take freedoms. But Trump still plays on that fear. The way he talks seems to me like he lives in this pretend world where he is already president and has already impliminted his plans. For example, saying ban all Muslims, then saying he will look into repealing that ban that he has not even done yet. It's like in his mind he has already been president for at least a couple of years. Win or lose, Trump will be remembered for this election and famous more in a comedy sense. Never a dull moment with him. |
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| Neutral | May 29 2016, 11:14 PM Post #19 |
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LOL You don't know what's happened with Obicare. You don't realize how it would be easy to get Mexico to pay for that wall. I have never heard him say the terrorist threat is made up. |
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| Brewster | May 30 2016, 12:31 AM Post #20 |
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What are you so afraid of, Neut? That Drumph's words, if put into action, would show what a flimsy house of cards the whole Right Wing / Republican mantra really is? Edited by Brewster, May 30 2016, 12:32 AM.
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