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| Banandangees | May 30 2016, 06:23 AM Post #21 |
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First MR, there is nothing in the article or what I wrote that has anything to do with whether or not Israel has been attacked. That's a diversion. What I think and what you think are our opinions on the matter. But you asked if I'd share my reasons why I believe the article is correct in its assumptions. I stated that the relationship and deterioration between Israel and the Democrat Party under the Obama administration has accelerated. The first paragraph of the linked article summarize the early relationship between Israel and the U.S. and it named three U.S. presidents where the relationship was good. Except for a few incidents, that has continued on through the years since 1948: The first paragraph: "Not too long ago Democrats were America’s pro-Israel party. Harry Truman recognized Israel moments after the Jewish state declared independence in 1948. JFK sold advanced anti-aircraft missiles to Jerusalem, ending a de facto U.S. arms embargo. Bill Clinton was famously close to the late Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin." Three Democrat Presidents... of the Democrat Party. As far as my statement that the relationship between Israel and the U.S. under the Obama administration (a Democrat president of the Democrat Party) deteriorating at a more accelerated pace, and you asking for me to share my reasons, then read any of the following articles I have googled: there is more than you can count on the subject: Link Addemdum: And as you can see, many the references are from Left Wing news media That's all about Obama's Democrat Party and Israel. The original linked article's 2nd paragraph: "If that party isn’t dead, it’s close. This week Bernie Sanders named James Zogby of the Arab-American Institute and professor Cornel West to the party’s platform-drafting committee. The pair are expected to push hard for a more “even-handed” position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which in practice means denouncing Israel at every turn........................" ...suggests that Sanders appears willing to continue to have the Party go in the same deteriorating direction. Regarding the Democrat Party and the Israel (which is what this thread is about.... not Trump. It seems Stone can't get his mind off of Trump.) use history and look at the relationship (from writings) between Democrat presidents from the start to Clinton and the relationship between Israel and the Democrat Party since after Clinton. Kind of obvious. If you don't mind my asking, as a new born, were you breast fed or bottle fed? Edited by Banandangees, May 30 2016, 06:38 AM.
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| Berton | May 30 2016, 10:26 AM Post #22 |
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Yes I have researched how civilians have been killed by the Israelis in the war the so called Palestinians have conducted. It is war, when civilians get in the way they get killed. Even though they are not targeted. Have you bothered to research how many "civilians" the so called Palestinians have murdered by targeting civilians? If you've researched it then you have come away with a flawed view of the situation or you support terrorism against civilian. |
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| Mountainrivers | May 30 2016, 09:51 PM Post #23 |
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So, how many civilians have been killed by Palestinians, according to your research? |
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| Berton | May 30 2016, 10:00 PM Post #24 |
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Too many. The so called fighters of Palestinians should stop using them as human shields. So, how many Israeli "civilians" have the so called Palestinians murdered by targeting civilians? |
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| Mountainrivers | May 30 2016, 10:16 PM Post #25 |
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I don't know, do you? You have bought into the Israeli propaganda about human shields, I see. Show me an instance of that happening. I already know you can't, but I'll be waiting. |
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| Neutral | May 30 2016, 10:39 PM Post #26 |
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There has been a multitude of evidence and I'm sure some of it has been posted on this forum. MR just doing his usual. |
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| Mountainrivers | May 30 2016, 10:44 PM Post #27 |
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Neutral just doing his usual, adding nothing to the discussion. |
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| Neutral | May 30 2016, 11:04 PM Post #28 |
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If you libs are too damn lazy to do a simple search then why should I do it for you. I'll bet I could give a link in less than a minute. You wouldn't read it anyway. Useful idiots are useful idiots. Let Hillary tell you what to think. |
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| Berton | May 31 2016, 03:55 AM Post #29 |
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http://nypost.com/2015/05/02/un-report-outlines-how-hamas-used-kids-as-human-shields/ http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/08/07/conclusive-proof-that-hamas-uses-palestinians-as-human-shields/# http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2753176/Hamas-DID-use-schools-hospitals-Gaza-Strip-human-shields-launch-rocket-attacks-Israel-admits-says-mistake.html http://www.thetower.org/1067oc-hamas-admits-to-using-civilians-as-human-shields/ Now tell me why you don't believe these reports which you could have easily found just like I did. |
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| Mountainrivers | May 31 2016, 04:35 AM Post #30 |
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These reports don't bother to tell why the Palestinians fire rockets from civilian areas. They only tell the Israeli side of the story. Here's what the Palestinians say. "Hamas officials cited by the AP defended their use of human shields by asserting that the population density of the Gaza Strip gave them little choice except to operate around civilians," Now, why do you choose to believe the Israelis and not the Palestinians? |
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