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| Neutral | May 29 2016, 08:26 PM Post #61 |
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I don't understand what you are trying to say Colo. The possibility of our using a nuke is always there as it should be. |
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| colo_crawdad | May 29 2016, 08:33 PM Post #62 |
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Yep, we have the capability of starting a nuclear holocaust that would end most all life on the earth and the US Right proposes a "first strike." Aren't we proud of that? |
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| Berton | May 29 2016, 08:34 PM Post #63 |
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So you are claiming that everyone on the right wants to strike first with nuclear weapons? Can you prove that or is that another of your progressive propaganda claims? |
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| Neutral | May 29 2016, 08:36 PM Post #64 |
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I haven't heard anyone seriously say they wanted a first strike with nukes. Colo is babbling. |
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| Banandangees | May 29 2016, 08:36 PM Post #65 |
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I'm not comparing the U.S. to Israel or to Germany. My point is the absurdity of expressing "condolences" to any nation you wared against; or, in the Jewish sense, had atrocities committed against you. |
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| colo_crawdad | May 29 2016, 09:00 PM Post #66 |
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I apologize. I should not have indicated all right wingers. I should have said that on ltlhis forum only right wingers have proposed using "tactical nuclear weapons" in a first strike setting. |
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| Berton | May 29 2016, 09:34 PM Post #67 |
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So you are claiming that everyone on the right on this board wants to strike first with nuclear weapons? Can you prove that or is that another of your progressive propaganda claims? Edited by Berton, May 29 2016, 09:35 PM.
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| colo_crawdad | May 29 2016, 09:44 PM Post #68 |
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No, I am claiming no such thing and I am sure you know better because I believe you can read. |
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| Mountainrivers | May 29 2016, 09:46 PM Post #69 |
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I don't think they have, but there is a lot of history that needs to be considered when attributing blame for the war. The US had put harsh sanctions on Japan as a result of the Japanese aggression in the far east. Japan was at war with China and a few other Asian nations and the US closing of trade deals with Japan, along with an oil embargo and a scrap metal embargo meant that Japan was desperate for those things in order to continue the wars. The Japanese view was that the only way to cripple the US and keep us from entering the war was to destroy our naval fleet in the Pacific. While I offer no excuses for the horrendous behavior of the Japanese against all of its enemies, one has to consider their point of view. As for an apology, there seems to be some differing opinions about that. I read that Hirohito offered an apology to General McArthur and he refused to grant a meeting for that to happen. I hope that no one will think I'm excusing Japan, just offering some insight into what they were thinking at the time. As for Obama's condolences, I see nothing wrong with saying we are sorry for the civilians killed in the atomic bombing of Japan. |
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| Mountainrivers | May 29 2016, 09:47 PM Post #70 |
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The implication in Colo's comment is that no left wingers have advocated for a first strike with nukes. Some right wingers have. |
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