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| An Ill Wind: Open Season on Bald Eagles; Sacrificing 4,200 of the birds a year for green energy sounds fine to regulators. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 25 2016, 02:21 AM (2,041 Views) | |
| ImaHeadaU | May 28 2016, 02:21 AM Post #111 |
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I believe I have found how the erroneous number of 4,200 bald eagles killed came in to the blogosphere. It comes from a misinterpretation of the Fish and Wildlife Service's estimate that bald eagles "number about 143,000 nationwide, could sustain as many as 4,200 fatalities annually without endangering the species. They haven't said that bald eagles should or will sustain "4,200 fatalities annually." TruthOrFiction.com |
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| Sea Dog | May 28 2016, 02:28 AM Post #112 |
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Here you go again, ruining a perfectly good thread by adding facts! |
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| Brewster | May 28 2016, 02:48 AM Post #113 |
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Actually, Neut did a great job of proving Thump correct and that his own argument was pure BS. |
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| Neutral | May 28 2016, 02:55 AM Post #114 |
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Another lie by Brew. I gave a search result that showed eagles are being killed.
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| Neutral | May 28 2016, 02:58 AM Post #115 |
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Still, the scientists said their figure is likely to be “substantially” underestimated, since companies report eagledeaths voluntarily and only a fraction of those included in their total were discovered during searches for dead birds by wind-energy companies. The study also excluded the deadliest place in the country for eagles, a cluster of wind farms in a northern California area known as Altamont Pass. Wind farms built there decades ago kill more than 60 per year. |
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| Berton | May 28 2016, 03:56 AM Post #116 |
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I wonder why Brewster, Colo_crawdad, Stoned, Thumper, and ImaHeadaU keep ignoring the obvious question? |
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| colo_crawdad | May 28 2016, 04:25 AM Post #117 |
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Beware trolls who call fellow members liars and who falsely accuse fellow members of ignoring facts. |
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| ImaHeadaU | May 28 2016, 04:57 AM Post #118 |
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"Why should they get to "take" eagles when other industries can not without penalty?" Firstly, it is not without penalty. Penalties do kick in at a certain level. Secondly, do we let the power transmission industry or the motor vehicle industry take eagles? Thirdly, the permit process allows regulators the opportunity to work with this industry to improve the design and placement of wind turbine tower such that fewer and fewer birds of all kinds be taken as we learn more and improve the way they work. |
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| Neutral | May 28 2016, 05:24 AM Post #119 |
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By Ima's criteria, we should have built the pipeline and then dealt with those tragedies the libs said would occur. |
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| Stoned | May 28 2016, 05:31 AM Post #120 |
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You are toast Neut.....................again. |
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Another lie by Brew. I gave a search result that showed eagles are being killed.


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