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Abortion; Chris Matthews grills Trump
Topic Started: Apr 1 2016, 06:30 PM (229 Views)
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Trump's new issue is his comment about women in regard to abortion. Peggy Noonan says that Trump has managed to get away with his "singles." Single comments many feel are very un-presidential. She implies that the "aggregate" of his un-presidential comments may be what brings him down. Oh, he may still win more delegates, but the general election mountain is too big to get past.... according to most "messengers."


Peggy Noonan says "A woman who aborts a child is operating within an emotional and spiritual context of fear, disappointment, confusion and sadness. If she receives an illegal abortion she should not be “punished” by the law. This is in line with long human tradition and is based on the simple wisdom that she has already been gravely and tragically penalized: She has lost her child, someone who was very likely going to love her, someone she very likely would have loved. The doctor who performs such an abortion on the other hand is not in turmoil, he is in business. He breaks the law and ends the life of the child with full consciousness, and for profit. He should be “punished.” He should be in jail.

That we even have to discuss this is absurd. It also feels very 1970s, when the subject to so many was new. I guess it’s still new to Donald Trump, and so unexamined, un-thought-through. Yes, he walked back or clarified his stand on punishment, and yes, Chris Matthews badgered and browbeat him on MSNBC. But presidential hopefuls, especially Republican ones, are routinely badgered and browbeaten. You have to deal with it. It’s part of how you earn the big job.
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Again, Noonan says, ""A woman who aborts a child is operating within an emotional and spiritual context of fear, disappointment, confusion and sadness"

One Reader commenting on Noonan's article wrote: '"Not so much, Peggy. Abortion has become so common that to some women it is just another means of birth control."

Just how common? There are 1 million abortions in the U.S. every year..... 100 thousand in Canada. That equals out to about the same since the population of the U.S. in 10 times that of Canada. If all that Peggy said about the woman's mental state after an abortion is true, there must be millions of totally depressed women over their decision to abort. Or, is it as the reader commenting on Peggy's article wrote..... that, with our loosening of our morality over time, that abortion has become just another form of birth control?

The doctor is at fault for performing the abortion. Or, is it that they both have the right of "choice?" If so, why would one be wrong and the other not,? Usually we give an answer based on our own biased opinion. Room for rationalizing, for self acceptance purposes.

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There are some things the government should say out of. This is one of those things. Let us women make our own choices with our own bodies and if we answer to anyone for what we choose, it should be God.

Governments play God when they want to make this choice for us. At least God can see into other timelines to know if or not a baby is better off not being born to this mother at this time.

Trump needs to stay out of the womb, and though he don't act like it, he is a grown man. He has no business an anyone's womb.
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Who is going to take care of the Baby?

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Apr 1 2016, 07:03 PM
There are some things the government should say out of. This is one of those things. Let us women make our own choices with our own bodies and if we answer to anyone for what we choose, it should be God.

Governments play God when they want to make this choice for us. At least God can see into other timelines to know if or not a baby is better off not being born to this mother at this time.

Trump needs to stay out of the womb, and though he don't act like it, he is a grown man. He has no business an anyone's womb.

Most of what you say here is probably true. However, I would have to suppose that Trump (by the answer he gave to Matthews questions on abortion and punishment) on "what punishment should a woman receive") would have preferred not having to discuss the abortion issue, knowing that it's a hotbed question. But Matthews pressed on about abortion and if and how the woman should be punished. The media demands an answer. The politician loses by any answer.

Peggy Noonan was right about one issue. The left media will never "routinely badger and browbeat" a Democrat opponent the way Matthews pressed Trump. The mission wasn't abortion, it was "destroy Trump." What better tool than abortion. By your answer, you either chase away the female vote or the evangelical vote.
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Why Trump would even interview with Matthews is a mystery to me but Trump did say that clip was out of context.
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