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Hey libs, how about the current events in Brussels?; 31 killed and hundreds maimed in explosions
Topic Started: Mar 23 2016, 12:05 AM (2,198 Views)
ImaHeadaU
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Berton
Mar 25 2016, 11:21 AM
Some were demanding information about Syrian refugees only. A rather limited subset of ISIS.

Actually, you have the cart before the house.

Some were making unfounded claims about Syrian refugees and others were asking them to substantiate those claims.

Show us something to back your claim that Syrian refugees are a "subset of ISIS."

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I ask why they were not wanting information about the entire area where ISIS is in control or is fighting for control.


That wouldn't help to clarify your misrepresentation of Syrian refugees.
Edited by ImaHeadaU, Mar 25 2016, 11:36 AM.
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Mar 25 2016, 02:02 AM
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Mar 24 2016, 08:33 PM
colo_crawdad
Mar 24 2016, 09:36 AM
ImaHeadaU
Mar 24 2016, 08:41 AM
Neutral
Mar 24 2016, 08:28 AM
Some are, some are posing as refugees to get into other countries.
And you can support that claim?
Of course he can't and won't. By the way, if we are to keep everyone oout who is a "possible terrorist,” just where do we stop? Should we exclude all those, members of the organization lead by David Duke? Should we exclude all those in the organization that Timothy McVeigh followed? Should we exclude all those who use the “baby Killing” rhetoric responsible for the murders of several doctors and nurses? All are "possible terrorists."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3318379/Hunt-Isis-killers-Syrian-passport-body-suicide-bomber-Stade-France.html
Okay, I posted:
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The Syrians who want to fight and to kill are in Syria doing just that. The refugees are fleeing the fighting and killing.


Neutral responded with:
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Some are, some are posing as refugees to get into other countries.


I responded as you have quoted above.

You might notice that I was talking about Syrians some who fight in Syria and others who have fled as refugees. Neutrals's "Some" I assumed referred to "Syrians" and in particular Syrian Refugees.

Re. Ahmed Almuhamed, an apparent fake Syrian passport in that name was found near the body of one off the terrorists in Paris. We don't know if that passport belonged the dead terrorist. We have no evidence to support the claim that any Syrian refugee has committed a terrorist act.

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The Syrian passport found near the remains of a suicide bomber at the Stade de France intrigues French investigators for many reasons.

“The single most intriguing fact is that the passport was there at all,” one French official source said. “It was not actually on the terrorist’s body, or what remained of it. It was lying nearby, as if meant to be found.” The holder of the passport was named as Ahmed Almuhamed, aged 25. A man of this name entered the European Union on a Syrian passport with 69 other refugees after their boat sank off the Greek island of Leros on 3 October.

The idea that one of the Paris “black Friday” terrorists may have been a recent Syrian refugee to the EU was seized upon gleefully by right-wing newspapers and politicians across Europe. The discovery appeared to substantiate claims that Isis terrorists have infiltrated the hundreds of thousands of refugees who have entered Europe this year.

French officials say that they have no proof that the Stade de France suicide bomber – one of three who detonated crude explosive belts at the stadium – was Mr Almuhamed. Intelligence sources in the US told CBS news that there are doubts whether the passport is authentic. The number of the document is incorrect and name does not match the picture, it was claimed.

Paris police were reported to have believed that the passport, and another found at the scene, were fakes made in Turkey. There is known to be a flourishing trade in fake Syrian passports in both Turkey and Europe. But that does not necessarily mean that the man who entered Greece as a refugee was not also the man who blew himself up.

French investigators fear that the apparent “planting” of the passport is part of a sophisticated propaganda war being waged by Isis. “There are three possibilities,” one source said. “He is the man whose name is on the passport. He was a false refugee, travelling on a false passport. Or he is someone else and a false passport was deliberately left there to sow confusion.”

In all three cases, Isis appears to have set out to stoke popular anger against Syrian migrants as part of their campaign to foment anti-Muslim feeling. The man travelling as Mr Almuhamed entered Greece with another man called Mohamed Almuhamed, who was presumed to be his brother. Ahmed then turned up, Serbian authorities said, at a Macedonian border crossing four days later.

A spokeswoman for the Croatian Interior Ministry said the man was registered at the Opatovac refugee camp on 8 October and crossed into Hungary, making for Austria. Austrian officials insisted on 14 November that there was no record of him.

Ursula von der Leyen, Germany’s Defence Minister, appeared to doubt that Mr Almuhamed, whoever he may be, had taken part in the attack. She said linking the refugee crisis to the threat of terrorism would be wrong. “Terrorism is so well organised that it doesn’t have to risk … the sometimes life-threatening crossings at sea.”
The Independent

Perhaps some of you have fallen into ISIS's trap.

I don't see what difference it makes to the relatives of those killed in Paris or Brussels if the Islamic terrorists who (according to the link) snuck in posing as a Syrian refugee was a Shiite Syrian, a Shiite Iranian, an Iraqi, a Sunni Jordanian, a Sunni Saudi, an Arab Brotherhood member or any other such Islamic terrorists out to kill innocents. When you get a flood of thousands of unvetted refugees fleeing in mass, it doesn't take an statistical analyst to realize that it is a great opportunity for Islamic terrorists to take advantage of the situation and go with the flow.... especially to a newly formed, boundaryless EU with very liberal political correctness policies.

An oasis. Build hundreds of oases.... in the middle east... their homeland. But for Europe's cultural survival, it's probably too late.
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Mar 25 2016, 10:49 AM
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Mar 25 2016, 02:24 AM
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Since ISIS is spread all over the Middle East and North Africia one wonders why libs are demanding information about only a small portion of them?
Maybe because all of the refugees are from Syria?

That is not the case.

Should I have said "most” instead of "all?"

Or should I have said all of the refugees the US and Canada are considering allowing entry into our countries are from Syria.
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ImaHeadaU
Mar 25 2016, 11:30 AM
Berton
Mar 25 2016, 11:21 AM
Some were demanding information about Syrian refugees only. A rather limited subset of ISIS.

Actually, you have the cart before the house.

Some were making unfounded claims about Syrian refugees and others were asking them to substantiate those claims.

Show us something to back your claim that Syrian refugees are a "subset of ISIS."

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I ask why they were not wanting information about the entire area where ISIS is in control or is fighting for control.


That wouldn't help to clarify your misrepresentation of Syrian refugees.

I can understand why you want to limit the discussion but the fact is the refugees come from all over that area, not just Syria. The refugees which might come to the US will come from all over that area, not just Syria. So your so called test of keeping the discussion about Syrian refugees is bogus from the start.

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Mar 25 2016, 09:09 PM
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Mar 25 2016, 10:49 AM
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Mar 25 2016, 02:24 AM
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Since ISIS is spread all over the Middle East and North Africia one wonders why libs are demanding information about only a small portion of them?
Maybe because all of the refugees are from Syria?

That is not the case.

Should I have said "most” instead of "all?"

Or should I have said all of the refugees the US and Canada are considering allowing entry into our countries are from Syria.

That is also not the case.

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Mar 25 2016, 09:20 PM
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Mar 25 2016, 09:09 PM
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Mar 25 2016, 10:49 AM
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Mar 25 2016, 02:24 AM
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Since ISIS is spread all over the Middle East and North Africia one wonders why libs are demanding information about only a small portion of them?
Maybe because all of the refugees are from Syria?

That is not the case.

Should I have said "most” instead of "all?"

Or should I have said all of the refugees the US and Canada are considering allowing entry into our countries are from Syria.

That is also not the case.

Which is "mot the case?"
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Mar 25 2016, 09:23 PM
Berton
Mar 25 2016, 09:20 PM
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Mar 25 2016, 09:09 PM
Berton
Mar 25 2016, 10:49 AM
colo_crawdad
Mar 25 2016, 02:24 AM
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Since ISIS is spread all over the Middle East and North Africia one wonders why libs are demanding information about only a small portion of them?
Maybe because all of the refugees are from Syria?

That is not the case.

Should I have said "most” instead of "all?"

Or should I have said all of the refugees the US and Canada are considering allowing entry into our countries are from Syria.

That is also not the case.

Which is "mot the case?"

What you said.

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As Ban said, dead is dead, it makes no difference where the terrorists are from. They are coming in as refugees and are killing people. If one supports that then one is beyond hope.
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Todays muslim refugee is tomorrow's terrorist. Why, because they will never assimilate into western society thus will be a continuous thorn (or worse) in our sides.
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Mar 25 2016, 06:13 AM
Ima, you hve done a lot of googling to respond to various postings. just do one more please find a piece that talks to the voices of outrage and demonstration by Brussels large Muslim community.
I saw one being interviewed on CNN last night. he said that ten to fifteen of his friends had returned to Syria as members of ISIS. The reporter asked him why he didn't, he said he wanted to succeed in life, was going to school, and didn't believe killing many to save one life was the way to go. Evidently, the refugees roam freely between Brussels and Syria.
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