Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
The Great Solar Epic Fail of All Time?
Topic Started: Mar 18 2016, 12:20 PM (640 Views)
Berton
Member Avatar
Thunder Fan
[ * ]
The Great Solar Epic Fail of All Time?



How did I miss this story yesterday? Oh yeah, I was on airplanes all day. Anyway, we’ve written before (more than once in fact) about the travesty of the Ivanpah solar plant in the California desert, otherwise known as the world’s largest outdoor bird fryer. It gets better:


Ivanpah Solar Plant May be Forced to Shut Down


By CASSANDRA SWEET



A federally backed, $2.2 billion solar project in the California desert isn’t producing the electricity it is contractually required to deliver to PG&E Corp., which says the solar plant may be forced to shut down if it doesn’t receive a break Thursday from state regulators.

The Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System, owned by BrightSource Energy Inc., NRG Energy Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google, uses more than 170,000 mirrors mounted to the ground to reflect sunlight to 450-foot-high towers topped by boilers that heat up to create steam, which in turn is used to generate electricity.

But the unconventional solar-thermal project, financed with $1.5 billion in federal loans, has riled environmentalists by killing thousands of birds, many of which are burned to death—and has so far failed to produce the expected power.

Reminder from last week: California’s one remaining nuclear power plant, Diablo Canyon, produces more electricity than all of California’s solar power installations combined. Naturally environmentalists are trying to shut it down.

Posted Image

LINK

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Neutral
Member Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]
Too bad solar doesn't work well enough and taxpayers have to throw money at it.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Stoned
No Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]


.............................by killing thousands of birds, many of which are burned to death—................................

Maybe we will have to get rid of cars too?

...........The results show that 89 million to 340 million birds suffer fatal injuries from vehicle encounters annually, .......
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/05/29/bird-deaths-car-crashes/9623931/
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Neutral
Member Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]
Vehicles are somewhat of a necessity, windmills aren't.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Stoned
No Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]
I thought the conservtives said "all lives matter". Apparently not. Oh well, what else is new?

http://www.rmi.org/RFGraph-health_effects_from_US_power_plant_emissions

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/14/power-plant-air-pollution-coal-kills_n_833385.html

http://news.mit.edu/2013/study-air-pollution-causes-200000-early-deaths-each-year-in-the-us-0829
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Brewster
Member Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]
Estimates of up to a Billion Birds Killed by Windows per year in the US Alone - Ban Windows!
Edited by Brewster, Mar 19 2016, 12:08 AM.
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Neutral
Member Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]
We need windows, we do not need windmills. That shouldn't be hard to understand.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Stoned
No Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]
Do we really need windows? Just askin.

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/22/5000-kids-a-year-hurt-in-falls-from-windows/

http://www.medicaldaily.com/accidental-falls-windows-surprisingly-common-among-young-children-and-college-kids-279386

http://www.disabled-world.com/disability/accidents/window-falls.php


Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Neutral
Member Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]
I guess if you wanted to live in a dungeon like home you wouldn't need windows.
A rather stupid argument.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Stoned
No Avatar
Fire & Ice Senior Diplomat
[ * ]
Gee, and I thought this whole thread was started to see how stupid a subject could be. The OP was hard to beat but I tried.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Fire And Ice General Discussion · Next Topic »
Add Reply

Website Traffic Analysis